**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 02 02:59:57 2012 Feb 02 03:16:41 well..de-siloing the executives seems to be a good way to start Feb 02 03:52:21 sugardave: were you the person who wrote the Zite app? Feb 02 05:04:32 meh... wifi still not working :/ Feb 02 05:09:02 hey PatrickC Feb 02 05:09:09 hey invalidopcode Feb 02 05:09:16 hey! im normally the welcoming party! :P Feb 02 05:09:34 haha i decided to mix it up a bit :P Feb 02 05:09:41 * PatrickC wonders if throwing phone at a wall will fix things.. Feb 02 05:09:42 hmm... Feb 02 05:09:43 lol Feb 02 05:11:09 in my expirence it usually... does not Feb 02 05:11:49 aww man... Feb 02 05:12:10 try it anyway Feb 02 05:12:43 as long as youll pay for the new one micah ;) Feb 02 05:12:53 not a chance Feb 02 05:13:07 lol Feb 02 05:13:12 i dont have any spares either Feb 02 05:13:22 http://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-pre-plus/183848-error-25-wi-fi.html my exact problem. but my phone doesnt even see any access points.. Feb 02 05:18:02 Is it a franken pre? Feb 02 05:19:46 If so I would open it up and check the cables. I bet it is unplugged. Feb 02 05:21:03 minego, yeah its a franken pre Feb 02 05:21:10 first i need to know which plug the wifi is lol Feb 02 05:21:31 i found this http://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-pre-plus/271655-wifi-not-working-after-phone-hit-floor.html#post2807779 Feb 02 05:21:42 but that isnt much help as i don't know what section of the phone that is Feb 02 05:23:40 It is one of those two wires. Feb 02 05:24:13 thats GPS and data iirc Feb 02 05:24:24 it doesnt look like the thing in those pictures in the link i just posted Feb 02 05:24:27 those wires* Feb 02 05:25:33 i think i might have found it Feb 02 05:25:35 lets see... Feb 02 05:25:40 I thought one of those was wifi. I'm not sure though. Feb 02 05:26:07 the side that those plugged in on was a little loose (the ribbon cable) Feb 02 05:26:10 maybe that was it Feb 02 05:26:35 That could explain it Feb 02 05:49:35 minegoZzZzZz, that wasnt the case Feb 02 05:54:54 i think he's gone Feb 02 05:58:07 probably sleeping Feb 02 05:58:22 probably Feb 02 05:58:31 * invalidopcode is still up doing homework Feb 02 05:58:49 * PatrickC is still up trying to fix his wifi Feb 02 05:59:33 * invalidopcode thinks he shouldn't be in IRC while trying to go hw Feb 02 05:59:35 *do Feb 02 05:59:44 lol Feb 02 06:01:06 PatrickC: have you taking chemistry yet? Feb 02 06:01:11 *taken Feb 02 06:01:19 nope Feb 02 06:01:23 in Physical Science now Feb 02 06:01:27 ah Feb 02 06:02:01 * rwhitby points to #webos-general Feb 02 06:02:28 sorry rwhitby, we'll try to stay on topic Feb 02 06:02:31 * PatrickC never knew about that channel Feb 02 06:02:36 sorry rod Feb 02 06:02:45 * PatrickC goes back to trying to fix his pre2 Feb 02 06:03:07 so i was thinking about making a WEBOS app for studying for chem. :P better rwhitby? Feb 02 06:04:32 he's probably watching this going "kids these days just don't know how to use IRC properly" Feb 02 06:04:40 lol Feb 02 06:21:15 http://ompldr.org/vY2wxcQ/wterm_cmatrix_veer2.1.png Feb 02 06:54:33 invalidopcode: I ported the Zite app to webOS, yeah Feb 02 06:54:45 he is fancy like that Feb 02 06:54:55 haha Feb 02 06:55:08 ;) Feb 02 06:55:26 because i was going to suggest maybe adding a "Print Article" button to the article reader page Feb 02 06:55:53 hmm, nice suggestion...I will pass it along and see what they think Feb 02 06:56:00 sugardave, did u really port the zite app? lol Feb 02 06:56:07 * PatrickC is tired and doesnt want to think :P Feb 02 06:56:08 yes Feb 02 06:56:20 its a really nice app Feb 02 06:56:21 ok, thanks Feb 02 06:56:57 yeah, they put a lot of work into it...unfortunately iscroll lacks the performance they required, so hacking was necessary :) Feb 02 06:57:13 hacking is always necessary :) Feb 02 06:57:25 ah hahaha nice Feb 02 07:04:12 EricBlade Feb 02 10:23:45 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399714,00.asp Feb 02 11:27:23 EricBlade - that means, that 62% of the Android users are male XD Feb 02 12:22:43 interesting. i'm trying to create a noWindow true app, that launches another app. Whenever I launch it from palm-run, it works as expected. When I launch it from the device Launcher, I get a card. Feb 02 14:34:51 hi Feb 02 14:35:11 i am trying to open a pdf which opens good in pc, webos says cannot read the file Feb 02 15:21:46 chandoo: usually that means the PDF is poorly formatted or something Feb 02 15:21:57 desktop PDF readers are a lot less finicky Feb 02 15:22:03 sometimes it means the file is corrupted Feb 02 15:22:33 summatusmentis:{ other pdf's i transfered are bigger in size and opens faster without issues, just one pirticular pdf file Feb 02 15:22:42 i noticed it is encrypted Feb 02 15:23:25 that may have something to do with it Feb 02 15:23:34 http://fpaste.org/q1Tk/ Feb 02 15:23:42 summatusmentis:{ check that link Feb 02 15:23:51 it has nothing to do with size or content, just the way it's crafted Feb 02 15:24:04 o...k? Feb 02 15:24:14 pc doesn't have issue opening Feb 02 15:24:23 how to remove all that encryption stuff Feb 02 15:24:29 not sure Feb 02 15:24:37 okay let me find out Feb 02 15:24:40 thing is, the pc is not your webOS device Feb 02 15:24:50 i know that Feb 02 15:25:04 i am thinking i am opening with same adobe reader Feb 02 15:25:12 you're not Feb 02 15:53:16 summatusmentis:{ do you know the location of the codec files in webos Feb 02 16:06:57 * halfhalo yawns Feb 02 16:13:29 chandoo, webos uses gstreamer, so /usr/lib/gstreamer0.10 or whatever Feb 02 16:16:40 wrea:{ okay i see it uses 0.10.so, i am thinking if i can compile mplayer to support other codecs like divx etc... Feb 02 16:17:01 i also see libavcodec Feb 02 16:18:14 isnt touchplayer mplayer based? Feb 02 16:18:15 chandoo: you might need to open the pdf in a linux reader that cares nothing about encryption (xpdf?) and then save it out as a new one....maybe Feb 02 16:19:59 sugardave:{ i did that with evince Feb 02 16:20:14 bummer :( Feb 02 16:20:16 now pdf opens good Feb 02 16:20:54 removed encryption and other stuff propreitery with adobe Feb 02 16:21:28 oh, good Feb 02 16:21:52 sugardave:{ thanks buddy Feb 02 16:22:35 wrea:{ i don't see touchplayer in preware Feb 02 16:23:57 chandoo, google is your friend: http://mobilecoder.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/touchplayer-documentation/ Feb 02 16:24:03 but again how to have browser handle divx codec is the issue Feb 02 16:28:09 wrea:{ i saw this link before, have to install it, thanks Feb 02 16:32:34 wrea:{ i installed it now Feb 02 16:36:40 how to stop video and go back? Feb 02 16:44:08 okay i got it, it opened in new card Feb 02 17:10:53 EricBlade / KungPhoo : I hear webos users are loyal but often have jealousy issues... but they're pretty desperate, nobody's got plans to give them any sort of serious hardware. Feb 02 17:11:34 plonk? Feb 02 17:12:24 the touchpad is serious hardware Feb 02 17:12:30 or do you mean new devices? Feb 02 17:13:05 new Feb 02 17:13:30 ah. Seems so. Very bad, because personally I favour webos highly over iOS and android Feb 02 17:13:47 all intelligent (and good looking) people do Feb 02 17:14:32 how did you know I'm good looking. Must be because you're intelligent Feb 02 17:14:42 heh Feb 02 17:21:50 Some stupid and ugly people prefer webOS too, like me! Feb 02 17:58:10 minego:{ don't scold your self's, webos is definetely better than android and IOS Feb 02 17:58:38 I agree. I love webOS. Feb 02 18:00:55 minego:{ i installed CM9 Android with many things not working, leaving aside issues, the primary user experience is no way near to webos, i still don't get why HP made such a stupid decision to ditch webos, at least they are making it opensource, i like to see webos taking over other Tablet os's Feb 02 18:06:37 history has shown that a good product or technical superiority does not always equate to marketshare or a good business Feb 02 18:27:22 dwc-:{ that's true Feb 02 18:51:22 * sugardave goes back to writing a Betamax software renderer for OS/2. Feb 02 18:51:53 ... Feb 02 18:52:04 get it? it's funny because dead technology Feb 02 18:53:55 Is there a way to activate Airplane Mode from the shell? Feb 02 18:54:02 (or test whether it is activated) Feb 02 18:54:23 Writing a script that should not attempt to do what it does if the phone is in Airplane Mode. Feb 02 18:56:33 Testing for presence of eth0 in the output of `ip addr` is one way, but I'm wondering if there's anything more idiomatic in webOS. Feb 02 19:00:21 (plus eth0 will not be there if it is simply the case of Wi-Fi being disabled) Feb 02 19:01:51 btby: I bet you'd need to do a service call Feb 02 19:02:11 destinal: com.palm.connectionmanager, right? =) Feb 02 19:02:58 well this sets it luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.systemservice/setPreferences '{"airplaneMode":true}' Feb 02 19:03:34 not sure if there's a getPreferences Feb 02 19:05:17 Looks like there is, thanks, giving it a go. Feb 02 19:15:30 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.systemservice/getPreferences '{"keys":["airplaneMode"]}'; did it, thank you destinal. =) Feb 02 19:18:23 btby: awesome, you're welcome Feb 02 20:07:22 weeeeeeeeeeee Feb 02 20:07:29 * fxspec06 got internship :D yay Feb 02 20:08:00 NICE! Feb 02 20:08:21 are there webos devs going to fosdem? Feb 02 20:40:17 anyone know how to manually kick off the first use app after bypassing it via meta-doctor? Feb 02 20:40:38 on touchpad? Feb 02 20:40:47 gesture tutorial iirc Feb 02 20:41:35 PatrickC: was that to me? Feb 02 20:41:47 yes :) Feb 02 20:41:52 that is how you do it on the phones Feb 02 20:42:01 there is no gesture tutorial app on the tp Feb 02 20:42:15 quick question, why do you need the first use app? Feb 02 20:42:27 i guess no gesutre bar = no gesture tutorial :( Feb 02 20:42:41 ah probably Feb 02 20:42:49 I had to bypass to get MAC of the device originally Feb 02 20:42:51 if you just need to sign into a profile, there are other ways Feb 02 20:42:56 but now I can't loginto palm profile Feb 02 20:43:02 you have preware on it? Feb 02 20:43:06 going to accounts app just results in neverending spinny Feb 02 20:43:08 yeah Feb 02 20:43:14 of course ;) Feb 02 20:43:15 find "impostah" Feb 02 20:43:17 hehe Feb 02 20:43:55 ok, installed Feb 02 20:44:17 ok, Activiation, I see it Feb 02 20:44:43 yep Feb 02 20:44:48 two TPs on the same account should play nice, right? Feb 02 20:45:02 i know people with 3-4 TPs on the same account ;) Feb 02 20:45:05 word Feb 02 20:45:17 then you can restore your data from the "backup" button in Impostah Feb 02 20:45:28 will that grab all the apps too? Feb 02 20:45:33 I kind of want to avoid that Feb 02 20:45:50 if you don't want the apps, then don't restore the backup :) Feb 02 20:45:56 youll have to re-add all the accounts though Feb 02 20:46:08 easy enough Feb 02 20:46:10 any paid apps should (and im not 100% sure on this as ive never done it) be free though Feb 02 20:46:51 yeah I'd rather just selectively download what I need to this instead of wating hours to suck down NOVA2 and Shrek Kart... Feb 02 20:47:01 lol Feb 02 20:47:06 NOVA2 is amazing Feb 02 20:47:12 so is Asphalt 6 HD Feb 02 20:47:23 yeah I have em loaded up on my original TP Feb 02 20:47:28 nice Feb 02 20:47:40 i got NOVA2 like a day before it went to .99 lol Feb 02 20:48:23 I had to redoctor that one a while ago for one reason or another, and was really annoyed that I had to wait for all the apps to sync before I could really do much with it Feb 02 20:48:34 and NOVA2 is several gigs... Feb 02 20:49:00 fxspec06: Congrats man Feb 02 20:49:22 yeah. apps syncing can take forever Feb 02 20:49:48 takes like 2 hours to finish syncing all my apps Feb 02 20:50:16 wrea, im at about 1.5 hours (if its taking its time) Feb 02 20:51:07 hmm, I logged in ok via Impostah, but this Accounts app screen is still in endless spinner mode Feb 02 20:51:33 it won't give me prompts for synergy accounts Feb 02 20:51:44 hmm. reboot? Feb 02 20:51:58 jcerwinske, #webos-internals would probably be of more help Feb 02 20:52:02 lets find out... may have to redoctor I guess Feb 02 21:00:29 hmm, reboot no good... redoctor it is. Feb 02 21:21:56 jcerwinske:{ my advice is install apps after redoctor Feb 02 21:23:16 delete any backup, reflash it with hp doctor tools, configure your accounts and other stuff take backup and stop backup after initiral sucessful backup, this way restore will be quick, then install apps on it Feb 02 21:23:34 any way what is nova2, where can i download it Feb 02 21:23:42 game, paid. Feb 02 21:24:04 dwc-:{ okay, not much into games Feb 02 21:25:43 i like one little game in linux,i wish to compile it for webos Feb 02 21:25:51 nethack? Feb 02 21:25:57 let me check what is the name of the game Feb 02 21:27:13 secret mario chronicles Feb 02 21:27:35 man, nethack should be in preware to run via wTerm... Feb 02 21:28:57 nethack - 3.4.3-3 - The best text based RPG of all time. Feb 02 21:29:01 looks like it's in optware Feb 02 21:29:17 in public feed? Feb 02 21:29:20 and if you install inetutils, you can telnet to one of the public nethack servers Feb 02 21:29:21 yep Feb 02 21:29:29 nethack? Feb 02 21:29:43 * chandoo checking on it, what the heck is it Feb 02 21:30:08 chandoo: what were you saying about doing the sync? Feb 02 21:30:18 I'm at the first use screen where it asks me to sync with a backup Feb 02 21:30:32 dont sync it Feb 02 21:30:37 "Applications Only" <-- great, the exact opposite of what I want Feb 02 21:30:50 do you have all your apps files? Feb 02 21:30:55 ...do I have a choice? Feb 02 21:31:31 I have to pick either Palm Pre, Touchy (my other touchpad), or "Applications Only" Feb 02 21:32:14 if you have ton of apps data backed up, just sync only the account and config info and install apps manually Feb 02 21:32:39 but you need to have the apps files to install Feb 02 21:32:53 but.. how od I sync account only Feb 02 21:33:07 I thought If I pick "touchy" for example... it still grabs the apps Feb 02 21:33:40 i did only once i don't remember the screen exactly Feb 02 21:34:14 Well, last time I redoctored Touchy, I picked it's own backed up Profile, and then it sucked down all the apps.... Feb 02 21:34:50 also it reports my "Palm Pre" profile as webOs 2.2.0 Feb 02 21:34:58 yes , what i did last time was, i allowed it to sync and then deleted the backup, and did only the backup of accounts and config info Feb 02 21:35:00 running 2.2.4 Franken Sprint Pre 2 Feb 02 21:35:17 then stopped backup and installed apps manually Feb 02 21:35:27 but i don't have much of data like you Feb 02 21:35:55 kind of crazy that you can't just skip this part altogether.... Feb 02 21:36:12 yes i agree Feb 02 21:36:39 I'm not exactly clear on how you "stopped the backup" Feb 02 21:37:14 go to backup and turn it off Feb 02 21:37:50 oh I thought that was just the upstream back to profile servers Feb 02 21:37:58 do it after you manually run first backup Feb 02 21:39:03 hey what are the effects of picking the name? Feb 02 21:39:16 I don't think I want two TP's with the same device name.... Feb 02 21:39:19 Or do I? Feb 02 21:39:38 you have two TP? great jcerwinske Feb 02 21:39:56 I just got a 2nd from that Woot refurb sale Feb 02 21:40:28 give it like TP1 and TP2 or MainTP and TestTP Feb 02 21:40:43 jcerwinske:{ great Feb 02 21:41:01 hmmm.. Testy maybe Feb 02 21:41:04 Touchy and Testy Feb 02 21:41:18 awww such cute twins! Feb 02 21:42:36 no idea what woot is Feb 02 21:43:43 http://www.woot.com/ Feb 02 21:43:45 i am looking for 27 inch 1080p led monitor Feb 02 21:50:42 * chandoo installed nethack, understanding it on how to play Feb 02 22:38:22 haha Feb 02 22:38:24 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373778212635893&set=a.337508619596186.98331.225549920792057&type=1 Feb 02 22:38:28 <-- first comment :P Feb 02 22:39:43 Napolean Dynamite is a cartoon? Feb 02 22:39:47 yeah Feb 02 22:39:54 entire movie cast signed on for voices Feb 02 22:40:01 so basically its the same damn thing as the movie :P Feb 02 22:40:25 that sounds awful Feb 02 22:40:30 It is Feb 02 22:40:31 I hated the movie Feb 02 22:40:54 i didnt feel like doing the usual 'FIRST!' Feb 02 22:49:16 PuffTheMagic: I absolutelly love using wTerm+cmatrix in exhabition mode Feb 02 23:04:20 minego, :D Feb 02 23:04:27 minego, wait till we get the font in there Feb 02 23:04:37 PuffTheMagic: huh? Feb 02 23:05:02 instead of ascii chars Feb 02 23:05:06 there isa matrix code font Feb 02 23:05:13 really? lol Feb 02 23:05:15 ya Feb 02 23:05:26 I actually like having ASCII. It feels more nerdy to me. Feb 02 23:05:39 the real font looks sick though Feb 02 23:05:42 anyway on a Pre to disable the "feature" that causes it to answer a call if you take it off the touchstone? Feb 02 23:09:34 EricBlade: I think there is a patch for that Feb 02 23:12:55 PuffTheMagic: I can't wait to see it then Feb 02 23:13:03 PuffTheMagic: Is wterm for phones still in alpha? Feb 02 23:23:33 minego, Feb 02 23:23:35 ya Feb 02 23:23:39 input needs work Feb 02 23:26:37 man.. my bouncer disconnected :/ Feb 02 23:26:51 * PatrickC missed the convo about the patch and the "cant wait to see it" :) Feb 02 23:26:58 What the hell is the command to install optware packages? Feb 02 23:27:03 I can never remember that Feb 02 23:27:08 ipkg-opt install Feb 02 23:28:04 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Optware#Managing_.22raw.22_nslu2-linux.org_Optware_packages Feb 02 23:28:09 thank you Feb 02 23:29:49 * PatrickC crosses fingers Feb 02 23:30:12 I can't stand the vi that is installed by default on weboS Feb 02 23:30:27 u dont want the vim in optware though Feb 02 23:30:34 its actually worse than the stock vi Feb 02 23:30:44 cause its broke Feb 02 23:31:04 it is? Feb 02 23:31:06 How so? Feb 02 23:31:06 minego, nano works nice Feb 02 23:31:10 for me that is Feb 02 23:31:20 PatrickC: Thems are fighting words Feb 02 23:31:27 in webos* Feb 02 23:31:30 hehe Feb 02 23:31:44 PuffTheMagic: does emacs work in wTerm now? Feb 02 23:31:50 PuffTheMagic: How is it broken? Feb 02 23:32:52 nvi - 1.79-2 - The original Berkeley Vi. Feb 02 23:34:37 rwhitby, like it did the day we fixed the emacs crash Feb 02 23:34:49 I'm okay with nvi if that works better in optware Feb 02 23:35:03 rwhitby, though sometimes it has color and other times it doesnt Feb 02 23:35:35 rwhitby, let me rephrase, i've seen it with color once, every other time its black Feb 02 23:35:38 and white Feb 02 23:37:33 sounds like a TERM problem Feb 02 23:38:04 no its definately color Feb 02 23:38:09 if u open a file Feb 02 23:38:32 * PuffTheMagic might have to learn emacs Feb 02 23:39:07 rwhitby, i think you should try it and let me know what you think since its your preferred editor Feb 02 23:39:15 i dont really know what to look for in terms of issues Feb 02 23:46:39 if up, down, left, right work, as well as "D" and d-enter, and "i" "I" "a" and "A", you have all teh vi commands that i know, and i've been using it all my life Feb 02 23:47:08 EricBlade: up, down, left and right are not vi commands. Feb 02 23:47:20 i meant the keyboard buttons Feb 02 23:47:38 oh yeah and ctrl-f and ctrl-b. Feb 02 23:47:45 You mean hjkl? Feb 02 23:48:11 aside from when I used to use it on a Commodore 64 via telephone modem, i've always had the arrow keys mapped Feb 02 23:48:18 PuffTheMagic: TERM defns contain whether the term supports color or not Feb 02 23:48:24 * PatrickC almost said wsad :) Feb 02 23:48:45 EricBlade: The arrow keys are usually mapped I think. I don't really know because I don't use them. Feb 02 23:48:56 arrow keys are mapped in vim Feb 02 23:49:10 and apparently nvi Feb 02 23:49:24 I am disappointed now Feb 02 23:50:06 it should dump ESC sequences into the middle of your file if you hit them in insert mode Feb 02 23:50:30 only if prefaced with ctrl-v Feb 02 23:50:43 i think Feb 02 23:50:58 * PatrickC is learning more in here about VI then he did on the tutorial he did :) Feb 02 23:51:12 EricBlade: got a solaris/hpux box handy? Feb 02 23:51:14 and assuming that your terminal actually generates esc sequences from the keys, if it doesn't, then who knows what you'd get Feb 02 23:51:28 yeah, i keep spares of them ... really? Feb 02 23:52:01 hey, some people have shell access to them Feb 02 23:52:05 PatrickC: Did you know you can set your terminal input to vi mode? Feb 02 23:52:14 minego, huh? lol Feb 02 23:52:15 aside from my touchpads and pres, the only linux in this house is an old EEE running eeebuntu .. I have a version of Solaris on a CD somewhere though Feb 02 23:52:24 * PatrickC uses VI only on occasion for small things Feb 02 23:52:25 others ... have solaris 10 on sparc laptops on their floors... Feb 02 23:52:33 mostly viewing files. hardly ever to edit Feb 02 23:52:48 dwc-: nice Feb 02 23:53:13 they sent me a Solaris disc to demo for a while, but I couldn't get it booted because it didn't have SATA support Feb 02 23:53:36 * PatrickC dualboots Ubuntu Feb 02 23:53:43 * EricBlade dualboots PatrickC Feb 02 23:53:51 and i don't think ive been in windows for 2 days! :D // cwayne Feb 02 23:53:54 hey ubuntu! Feb 02 23:53:55 destinal: it's relatively slow now, in part to the difficulty finding ECC SDRAM SODIMMs Feb 02 23:53:58 lolol Feb 02 23:54:08 but I have a 650mhz tadpole sparcle Feb 02 23:54:09 I run linux on every box I own except my mac mini Feb 02 23:54:18 dwc-: that sounds like it could be the stuff that i have a mountain of here. Pentium 3 era ram? Feb 02 23:54:42 that's the right era, but it has to be SODIMM (laptop form factor...) AND ECC (rare) Feb 02 23:54:46 * PatrickC has a laptop with a P3 Feb 02 23:55:09 most of the ECC SODIMMs of a good size I found were $1000 Feb 02 23:55:26 ... because the common user of that type is cisco routers. Feb 02 23:55:30 oh, yeah, there might be only a piece or two of the SO style here Feb 02 23:55:38 s/is/was/ Feb 02 23:55:50 and it's probably something ridiculously useless like a 2MB chip Feb 03 00:11:54 dwc-, i know that TERM controls color Feb 03 00:14:19 EricBlade, did you hear I got an enyo/hybrid kind that works on all devices now? Feb 03 00:19:09 PuffTheMagic: i didn't hear that, but that sounds like quite an accomplishment. Feb 03 00:19:53 PuffTheMagic: how did you do that? Feb 03 00:20:05 magic Feb 03 00:21:10 sugardave, cant wait to hear the "good news" that you spoke about on twitter today! :) Feb 03 00:21:46 sugardave: was it Magic or was it Puffing... Feb 03 00:21:47 EricBlade, http://dpaste.com/696833/ Feb 03 00:21:48 like that Feb 03 00:22:19 use hybridReady for things you would have normally run in onConnected Feb 03 00:22:30 put them before that last call Feb 03 00:22:49 PuffTheMagic: on my TP, if I TERM=xterm vim /opt/share/vim/syntax/vim.vim and :syn on I get color Feb 03 00:22:53 you have to extend the existing hybrid class and then use that rendered() function Feb 03 00:23:01 with default TERM=vt100, of course only bold and underline Feb 03 00:23:08 dwc-, i have no color issues Feb 03 00:23:21 hm, I thought you said you were, nevermind Feb 03 00:23:28 in emacs Feb 03 00:23:31 i saw color once Feb 03 00:23:33 and i dont know how Feb 03 00:23:39 but i never remember opening a file with it Feb 03 00:23:46 oh Feb 03 00:23:47 i thought the into help had some blue in it Feb 03 00:24:17 so.. uh... it's just a matter of setting "ready" in the node to the call back, instead of setting it in the enyo Hybrid parameters? Feb 03 00:24:37 I have color if I TERM=xterm emacs /etc/miniboot.sh Feb 03 00:24:56 (gross, I still have emacs on here) Feb 03 00:24:56 EricBlade, you still need to call ready in your plugin after you register your callbacks Feb 03 00:25:13 you just cant use 3.x's built in connected/ready/disconnected callbacks Feb 03 00:25:40 dwc-, i have color if I open a file too Feb 03 00:25:45 i just never did that before Feb 03 00:25:49 ahh Feb 03 00:25:49 all i did was run emacs Feb 03 00:26:02 and i could have sworn i saw the intro/help scene in color once Feb 03 00:26:19 but if i just run emacs there is no color Feb 03 00:28:56 yea, I dunno... I don't either on one machine I have access to with emacs Feb 03 00:31:15 hmm.. maybe i should give VI a try.. if the arrow keys do work.. Feb 03 00:33:20 ya arrow keys in vim dont work Feb 03 00:33:36 they should? ... Feb 03 00:34:33 ahhh, they don't :D Feb 03 00:35:19 they dont work in novaterm eithers Feb 03 00:35:23 its not wterms fault Feb 03 00:35:31 i can ssh into my desktop and vim works perfectly Feb 03 00:35:48 doesn't work via ssh touchpad Feb 03 00:36:17 does for me Feb 03 00:36:24 wait Feb 03 00:36:27 ssh into the touchpad Feb 03 00:36:31 or from touchpad Feb 03 00:39:10 into Feb 03 00:39:54 well, it half-works Feb 03 00:40:00 it works in edit mode, but not insert mode Feb 03 00:47:06 how to install .ipk file from novaterm command line without preware Feb 03 00:51:40 palm-install? Feb 03 00:52:26 if you have the SDK installed, that will work Feb 03 00:52:34 palm-install whatever.ipk Feb 03 00:53:22 PuffTheMagic: i'm not really following what's going on with that plugin, then. maybe it's because i only know the Enyo way, but on mine, the only thing i have set is onPluginReady, which just stores a flag saying it did or didn't initialize. Feb 03 00:56:59 EricBlade, https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-1.0/blob/master/framework/source/palm/controls/Hybrid.js Feb 03 00:57:11 line 125 Feb 03 00:57:21 this.node.__PDL_PluginStatusChange__ = enyo.bind(this, this.pluginStatusChangedCallback); Feb 03 00:57:24 that is new in 3.x Feb 03 00:57:31 yeah it took me a bit to realize this was an extension of Hybrid Feb 03 00:57:35 it intercepts the ready call from your plugin Feb 03 00:57:51 so it calls connected once the node exitsts Feb 03 00:57:58 then ready once it gets the call from the plugin Feb 03 00:58:09