**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 07 02:59:58 2012 Feb 07 15:58:34 boom Feb 07 16:00:10 halfhalo: action time? Feb 07 16:00:23 or explosion time, either works for me Feb 07 16:00:48 halfhalo: do you know where dieter ever got that phrase btw? Boom, action time! Feb 07 16:01:03 no? Feb 07 16:01:44 halfhalo: it was an NYC devdays thing but damned if I know how it came about Feb 07 16:01:48 * destinal wasn't there. Feb 07 16:01:51 ah Feb 07 16:04:59 http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-international-edition/ that display makes me want to cry Feb 07 16:07:13 1280 x 800, dual core (same as touchpad) -- not revolutionary -.- Feb 07 16:07:32 super Feb 07 16:07:34 amoled Feb 07 16:08:20 $592.50 Feb 07 16:09:10 worth it Feb 07 16:09:52 fxspec06: touchpad is 1024x768 Feb 07 16:10:15 touchpad is also 9.7 Feb 07 16:10:27 that is marginally better. Feb 07 16:10:43 i'm not looking to invest in technology that is sleightly better than what i've got Feb 07 16:10:55 i want twice as good Feb 07 16:11:05 anyways, i got to go shopping for stuff to wear Feb 07 16:11:09 fxspec06: touchpad is still a totally respectable tablet, I wouldn't buy anohter Feb 07 16:11:12 another Feb 07 16:11:25 mhm. especially at $149 ;) Feb 07 16:11:33 * fxspec06 bbl Feb 07 16:21:15 fxspec06: if i want to buy it from ebay, it seems to reach 270 (32Gb version) Feb 07 16:21:24 that's europe, so euros Feb 07 19:00:33 Hi all, is there any way to force the TP to redownload FB photos on the photo app? Feb 07 19:00:43 Thanks to my mobile provider compressing JPEGs when over 3G, a FB album I downloaded is terrible quality =/ Feb 07 19:01:09 since I do have a hammer handy, everything is a nail... so I would say turn off the photos in synergy and turn it back on. Feb 07 19:01:38 Tried that Feb 07 19:01:43 they just reappear straight away Feb 07 19:01:48 I don't think it actually deleted them Feb 07 19:04:14 remove facebook account and readd? Feb 07 19:04:49 suppose...but then that'd mess up contacts and whatnot Feb 07 19:04:55 hmm Feb 07 19:05:13 maybe I'll try that...wouldn't have thought it should take such extreme measures however Feb 07 19:05:15 gotta get it to delete the cached data somehow Feb 07 19:05:21 Yeah Feb 07 19:05:28 urgh Feb 07 19:05:31 i lost my plm pre Feb 07 19:05:34 =/ Feb 07 19:05:46 Pre -? Feb 07 19:05:49 sprint won't give me anotehr one now Idk wtf to do Feb 07 19:06:01 ebay? Feb 07 19:06:04 there's ebay, amazon, and craigslist Feb 07 19:06:20 Perhaps if I remove fb photos on accounts Feb 07 19:06:22 then reboot Feb 07 19:06:24 i was paying insurance, so I'm effectively wasting 7 dollars a month or whatever it is Feb 07 19:06:37 I saw an att pre+ in my area cheap not long ago on craigslist (and I'm in the middle of no where) Feb 07 19:06:57 what's it insured against? Feb 07 19:06:58 idk if I should try to get another pre or a new phone Feb 07 19:07:12 idk whatever insurance plan sprint offers Feb 07 19:07:21 ShadeS, if you're paying insurance try calling sprint and keep complaining. especially to a "manager" or "supervisor" Feb 07 19:07:31 Actually Feb 07 19:07:40 do they have refurb units or something? Feb 07 19:07:43 Looking at other photo albums Feb 07 19:07:53 I think that's the actual quality of them from fb Feb 07 19:07:54 yuck! Feb 07 19:08:01 I never realised it was that bad! =/ Feb 07 19:08:18 facebook recompresses Feb 07 19:08:24 everything Feb 07 19:08:25 it's terrible Feb 07 19:08:25 ShadeS, no clue, but if a phone supervisor can't get one sent to you it's likely that there's just not a way for sprint to make it happen Feb 07 19:08:27 Yeah I know Feb 07 19:08:33 Just didn't realise it was that bad xD Feb 07 19:08:52 I hope when wOS finishes getting open sourced, someone manages to put out a flickr synergy plugin Feb 07 19:09:02 ShadeS: check your documents Feb 07 19:09:08 http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/popEquipment.html Feb 07 19:09:23 is one possibility Feb 07 19:09:29 but you do need to know what's covered Feb 07 19:09:37 before you accept their "no" Feb 07 19:10:10 i mean webos is dead right? Feb 07 19:10:21 NO! Feb 07 19:10:33 and there might be a deductible, which might be worse than picking up a used one elsewhere Feb 07 19:10:42 don't say such hurtful things... especially in here :( Feb 07 19:11:01 well I don't want it to be true anymore than you do but i'm not going to lie to myself Feb 07 19:11:27 and all the numbers i had in there are now gone, too? Feb 07 19:11:39 Ummm...probably not Feb 07 19:11:41 I don't think Feb 07 19:11:49 should be linked with your palm account Feb 07 19:11:50 how do I get that info? Feb 07 19:12:00 which I can access how now that i don't have a palm phone? Feb 07 19:12:12 I'm excited for Open webOS. I figure after my TP and Pre3 kick the bucket I'll wind up with stuff that runs webOS, but it'll be hardware that didn't ship with webOS Feb 07 19:12:15 don't think you can access it at all without a palm phone =/ Feb 07 19:12:28 Yeah I hope that's how it ends up RagingMind Feb 07 19:12:32 8 C Feb 07 19:12:34 that's fucked Feb 07 19:12:50 But Pre -'s are dirt cheap anyway Feb 07 19:13:00 ShadeS, you need a webOS device and then you can export it to vcard and import to something else Feb 07 19:13:08 how mcuh? Feb 07 19:13:15 dunno, I'm not in the US Feb 07 19:13:25 but here in the UK I think they go for less than £100 most the time Feb 07 19:13:26 i'm not in the us at the moment either Feb 07 19:13:36 I've never tried this so someone else chime in, but could he use the sdk emulator and export from that? Feb 07 19:13:39 RagingMind: yeah absolutely looking forward to porting webos to newer hardware of all kinds Feb 07 19:14:10 I think it would be a good idea for the community to decide on a single phone to focus porting bug fixing etc on Feb 07 19:14:18 and then once that's stable and usable, go from there Feb 07 19:14:22 RagingMind: you'd have to modify the emulator a bit to allow it to log into profiles Feb 07 19:14:50 you can add accounts (google, etc) but I've never tried adding a palm Feb 07 19:15:06 I have a feeling that the source we wind up seeing will be lacking in bits to drive the modem/phone hardware, so I'm hoping with bits from the evil robot and maybe from open moko it can be done Feb 07 19:16:13 destinal, been a while since I played with the emulator. I remembered being able to log into all the synergy stuff, but I wasn't sure about the palm profile Feb 07 19:16:16 RagingMind: well here's the thing, right? there are lots of good working android devices with cyanogenmod running on them and driver support there, we can learn from that Feb 07 19:16:37 I just can't wait until we don't even need the phone hardware part... everything just routing over IP/wireless Feb 07 19:16:44 basically pick a target that cyanogen is already running successfully on and go from there Feb 07 19:16:49 the cariers are the worst freaking roadblock to anything in mobile Feb 07 19:16:57 Time to reboot to the dark side Feb 07 19:17:03 I saw someone with a Transformer Prime today at work Feb 07 19:17:13 first thought it put my TP to shame Feb 07 19:17:15 RagingMind: like for example the Nexus hardware is good, no rooting required etc Feb 07 19:17:23 then thought he paid 4-5 times as much for it xD Feb 07 19:18:08 I personally thing the droid razr is pretty, and would be my choice if I didn't want a keyboard Feb 07 19:18:36 RagingMind: unfortunately unless they give us source code to the palm / hp device driver stuff we may have some challenges there since we don't have a working reference platform Feb 07 19:18:52 would be ironic if it was hardest to get running on Palm/HP phones Feb 07 19:19:02 Droids don't mean a great deal to me...I don't think they sell them in Europe - if they do they're nowhere near as popular for some reason Feb 07 19:19:30 Boopop: pet peeve, droid is an individual phone, I hate hearing android devices in general called droids Feb 07 19:19:40 That's what I mean Feb 07 19:19:42 meant* Feb 07 19:19:44 droid phones Feb 07 19:19:58 * dwc- mutters something about not the droids we're looking for Feb 07 19:20:02 there's more than one motorola phone that's branded as a droid isn't there? Feb 07 19:20:04 Boopop: ahh ok cool, it's everyone else saying it wrong that made me fail to parse Feb 07 19:20:07 Droid X, Droid, Droid 2? xD Feb 07 19:20:13 yeah a few different ones that's true Feb 07 19:20:34 Android phones are popular here just as everywhere else xD Feb 07 19:20:46 All the chavs prefer an iPhone mind Feb 07 19:20:50 cause it's bling lyk innit Feb 07 19:20:58 Boopop: lol yeah Feb 07 19:21:30 The only reason to use an iPhone I can see is if somehow you've been brainwashed into enjoying using iTunes Feb 07 19:21:32 beyond that... Feb 07 19:22:52 Boopop: yeah, open source webos is a lot more exciting to me than android, the android way of doing things just never really clicked for me Feb 07 19:23:03 cwayne, ping Feb 07 19:23:19 destinal: ICS seems to do things a bit better Feb 07 19:23:26 like how you can bring up "recently used apps" Feb 07 19:23:36 and then swipe them away, I assume that removes them from RAM Feb 07 19:23:44 whoa, swipe away? Feb 07 19:23:48 same principal with webOS :) Feb 07 19:23:50 destinal, yep Feb 07 19:24:04 webos really has changed everyone else's metaphors Feb 07 19:24:10 yeah Feb 07 19:24:12 PatrickC: whats up Feb 07 19:24:13 android on phones reminds me too much of windows on desktop pcs *shudders* Feb 07 19:24:19 lmao Feb 07 19:24:20 except "almighty apple" Feb 07 19:24:23 cwayne, ill PM u Feb 07 19:24:33 Still from a development perspective I'd rather hack on webos than android Feb 07 19:24:38 Java (shudders) Feb 07 19:24:43 I think a transformer prime with windows 8 on it is compelling Feb 07 19:25:01 coupled with a windows 8 desktop and windows phone 7.5 smartphone :) Feb 07 19:25:08 or...tripled xD Feb 07 19:26:02 Boopop: there's an open hardware group of hackers working on a PCMCIA like card that will transform like that, just plug it into a tablet chassis or notebook chassis etc Feb 07 19:26:11 called EOMA68 Feb 07 19:27:00 (ie the computer is in the card, just plug it into whatever form factor you want) Feb 07 19:27:11 That's a nice idea Feb 07 19:27:19 bit of effort mind Feb 07 19:27:21 but still nice Feb 07 19:27:39 I mean for a desktop I'd want 3.5" hard disks Feb 07 19:28:05 I suppose you could quite happily have storage on the devices, and then have an OS on the storage for each device Feb 07 19:28:22 Boopop: could have those, obviously you only carry around with you what's on the onboard flash typically Feb 07 19:28:29 but there's SATA on it Feb 07 19:28:30 Yeah Feb 07 19:28:42 For example I wouldn't want to use it with a desktop anyway Feb 07 19:28:48 because I want desktop hardware for my desktop :P Feb 07 19:28:58 and desktop hardware would drain a battery a bit too quick! Feb 07 19:29:07 for tablet + laptop it'd be good though Feb 07 19:29:19 Are they aiming for smartphones too? Feb 07 19:30:03 Boopop: yeah, trying to figure out layout and tooling for smartphones (there's two versions of their computer they're working on, one PCMCIA card sized and one Compact Flash card sized) Feb 07 19:30:22 Boopop: I'm hoping to get webos ported to these puppies :) Feb 07 19:30:37 Ahh right Feb 07 19:31:24 * RagingMind is looking into building a new (cheap) desktop system, but is thinking it'd be better to wait for Ivy Bridge so that Sandy Bridge prices fall. Feb 07 19:31:38 Boopop: though there's no reason you can't run regular linux distributions along side and switch modes, and even run windows 8 if you really wanted Feb 07 19:31:38 RagingMind: good idea Feb 07 19:31:51 cause trying to develop on my netbook is painful. I can't even use the webOS emulator Feb 07 19:32:51 what kind of processor is in it? Feb 07 19:33:03 RagingMind: ah but what about an ARM netbook and just run webos directly on it? :) Feb 07 19:34:06 destinal, tempting, but that's a little far off at the moment. my netbook is frustrating to use in general so I want to do this sooner rather than later Feb 07 19:34:19 PatrickC, atom N270 (I think) Feb 07 19:34:50 can i use sqlite with enyo (read from sqlite file and use that info in my application) Feb 07 19:37:07 well i found my lil notepad but i haven't found my fone Feb 07 19:39:32 ShadeS: so you didn't have your phone set up with google to use for your contacts? Feb 07 19:39:49 Chome for Android wooop Feb 07 19:39:51 that's what I did and I've got them in gmail, google voice etc Feb 07 19:39:53 html5 here we go Feb 07 19:40:43 hotdp, when did that launch?! Feb 07 19:40:56 http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/07/google-chrome-browser-arrives-on-android-video Feb 07 19:42:18 WOO! Feb 07 19:43:01 "elite crowd of ICS phones and tablets " Feb 07 19:43:04 That'll be us then Feb 07 19:43:06 lmao Feb 07 19:45:10 its already set to install next time the touchpad boots to Android (which isn't that often lol) Feb 07 19:46:26 destinal: I do not like google to have my contact info Feb 07 19:46:43 but i think it did that anyway 'for' me when i logged in with my two gmail addresses Feb 07 19:47:11 ShadeS: ah well, if so at least you have access to it :) Feb 07 19:47:40 ShadeS: this brings up a really good point that we need a way of getting at our palm profiles without a physical webos device Feb 07 19:48:03 destinal, yes Feb 07 19:48:14 yeah i'm super fucked Feb 07 19:48:20 becaues i lost my fone in a 3rd world country Feb 07 19:48:36 ShadeS: what if we could get the emulator to work to log in Feb 07 19:48:39 changed my pws.. Feb 07 19:48:47 then that'd be ok Feb 07 19:48:56 you can wipe the device remotely as well Feb 07 19:49:25 * destinal starts poking around at making an emuator work like a touchpad for profile Feb 07 19:49:53 destinal, can u doctor the emulator? :) Feb 07 19:50:15 PatrickC: ur blurgh herr wha? Feb 07 19:50:18 :P Feb 07 19:50:20 halfhalo nto if it doesn't have power or a network to connect to Feb 07 19:51:19 do you have an x86 doctor around? Feb 07 19:51:20 hmm for some reason the emulator really sucks to use on OSX Feb 07 19:51:26 keyboard related mostly Feb 07 19:51:37 or are you going to stick ARM code and try to boot it in the x86 emu? Feb 07 19:52:11 dwc-: don't need ARM code Feb 07 19:52:56 dwc-: and not sure what the point of an x86 doctor would be, emulator is a preinstalled image Feb 07 19:54:03 dwc-: the trick will be just to get first use or impostah working to register / login to a profile Feb 07 19:58:37 sadly I may not have time to work on it just now. whole day job thing :-/ Feb 07 19:59:23 the cool thing would be that would give us catalog access on the emu.. Feb 07 19:59:43 * PatrickC decided it was break time and built his pre2 Feb 07 19:59:50 the advantages of homeschooling :) Feb 07 20:00:28 :) Feb 07 20:00:51 destinal, this is now the second one for replacing the one with the broken flash lol Feb 07 20:01:14 PatrickC: did you fix that thing yet? Feb 07 20:01:19 na Feb 07 20:01:27 i think the flash chip died :/ Feb 07 20:01:46 PatrickC: if you think it's dead dead, send it to me to play with :) Feb 07 20:01:55 syncing stuff TO a yahoo account would be nifty Feb 07 20:02:05 im shipping that and my dead pre3 to ka6sox soon :) Feb 07 20:02:28 PatrickC: but but but Feb 07 20:03:21 DENIED Feb 07 20:03:33 huh? Feb 07 20:03:38 dead? Feb 07 20:03:43 more dead? Feb 07 20:03:52 bring out your dead... Feb 07 20:03:52 so many broken phones... Feb 07 20:04:01 PatrickC has a torture chamber for webOS products xD Feb 07 20:06:04 destinal, 1 more reason to come here...a dead pre2 :D Feb 07 20:06:31 finally i get the new facebook photo view Feb 07 20:06:35 so much better not having to scroll down for comments Feb 07 20:06:42 i saw it the other day on my buddys computer when he was on facebook, i came home and mine was still the old way. guess theyre slowly rolling it out Feb 07 20:06:49 destinal: I was ref 11:49 < PatrickC> destinal, can u doctor the emulator? :) Feb 07 20:06:50 ka6sox: sure that works Feb 07 20:07:23 bribing people with dead hardware? I like it... Feb 07 20:07:24 ka6sox: am going to be up in your neck of the woods at least two trips this month, one to work on reprap, and another to visit my office Feb 07 20:08:01 halfhalo: I've encountered this dead flash thing on several pre's and one pre2 now. I'd *love* to dig into it Feb 07 20:08:22 destinal, kewl Feb 07 20:08:27 halfhalo: ie is the whole flash chip dead or just parts of it, what does low level dding to the mmcblk0 device do etc Feb 07 20:08:37 halfhalo: inquiring minds want to know :) Feb 07 20:08:48 suuure :p Feb 07 20:09:06 luckily I have some toolz that can help with that. Feb 07 20:09:11 * halfhalo has a tasty burger Feb 07 20:09:18 ka6sox: excellent Feb 07 20:09:25 * ka6sox winders where they hide the 5guys Feb 07 20:09:33 heh Feb 07 20:09:35 wonders Feb 07 20:10:25 hmm... pulp fiction is on my hd... Feb 07 20:10:31 ka6sox: good question. 5 guys makes for some weird office conversations around lunch time for sure Feb 07 20:10:56 ya, no kidding Feb 07 20:11:00 Starch City Feb 07 20:12:24 ka6sox: heh more like when people propose to go do 5 guys Feb 07 20:12:39 I had no idea what they were talking about first time but it sure sounded strange Feb 07 20:13:08 ya Feb 07 20:16:30 howdy folks! Feb 07 20:17:12 hola Feb 07 20:18:02 damn I deleted my 3.0.4 doctor but this script is calling for it, hrmm.. Feb 07 20:18:47 does 2.2.4 on the Pre2 come with Bing Maps I assume? Feb 07 20:39:28 phone calls survive through luna crashes? I suppose that's good, but kinda left me without a way to hang up Feb 07 20:43:40 I've had the problem of not being able to hangup a call so I had to reboot (pre3!! ack) Feb 07 21:08:07 same here Feb 07 21:08:09 same issue Feb 07 21:08:26 (pre3) Feb 07 21:09:10 I am having this issue pre2 thinks it has headphone is stucked Feb 07 21:09:27 so I cannot hear anything from the speaker Feb 07 21:11:14 sales reports are up Feb 07 21:15:25 sweet Feb 07 21:33:07 bah, twitter website is a hot mess now on TP browser... Feb 07 21:34:31 jcerwinske, just use an app..? Feb 07 21:35:10 just slapped Spaz on here Feb 07 21:35:31 you could also try on Project Macaw if you liked Phnx on phones Feb 07 21:35:46 I checked out Macaw for a min, but I went back to Spaz Feb 07 21:35:52 I like Spaz a lot on phone... Feb 07 21:35:58 didn't really give Macaw a chance though Feb 07 21:36:18 (that was a shameless plug as im one of the devs) Feb 07 21:36:20 ;) Feb 07 21:37:14 grabbing it now Feb 07 21:37:23 should I get it from public feed? or beta? Feb 07 21:37:33 right now they are on the same version Feb 07 21:37:36 soon they wont be Feb 07 21:37:51 noticed Spaz wasn't in the public feed... Feb 07 21:38:11 its in the App Catalog Feb 07 21:38:20 still in Beta feed though I guess Feb 07 21:38:25 just thought it was curious... Feb 07 21:38:31 I like using preware > app catalog :) Feb 07 21:38:32 thats weird lol Feb 07 21:38:39 heh same her Feb 07 21:38:40 here* Feb 07 21:38:47 much faster loading time Feb 07 21:39:08 sanaking: over here! :P Feb 07 21:39:22 hmm... Feb 07 21:39:30 * PatrickC has 8 webOS phone boxes sitting next to him Feb 07 21:39:34 the first time I actually started the catalog up on this TP... Feb 07 21:39:40 Oh, Hello Pivot, nice to see you! Feb 07 21:39:46 bye now! Feb 07 21:39:49 ahh.. this is what home feels like :) Feb 07 21:40:01 pivot is gone lol Feb 07 21:40:29 yeah it hadn't been replaced with the new app store front yet Feb 07 21:40:43 since this is a pretty fresh TP Feb 07 21:41:02 ah Feb 07 21:41:13 * PatrickC crosses fingers on getting the Lumia 800 Feb 07 21:41:35 that metro ui.. ugh, I just hate it Feb 07 21:41:52 hm, I just tried to 'make DEVICE=pre2 CARRIER=wr all' but it failed.. what else could a pre2 be? Feb 07 21:41:59 free is free.. and good for development Feb 07 21:42:12 well yeah, no arguing against free Feb 07 21:42:17 sanaking, it could be vzw ;) Feb 07 21:42:37 I just read a lot about people "getting excited for windows phone" Feb 07 21:42:42 and I'm like... who ARE these people? Feb 07 21:42:47 i hate it when you are signed into a different twitter account and don't realize it haha Feb 07 21:43:06 im "getting excited for Open webOS" Feb 07 21:43:17 PatrickC: well it does have a SIM card slot :) Feb 07 21:43:21 well THOSE people, I know :) Feb 07 21:43:29 sanaking, hehe Feb 07 21:43:35 i just got a vzw pre2 today Feb 07 21:43:46 5th time's the charm, right? Feb 07 21:43:47 lol Feb 07 21:43:59 crap.. this sim card slot seems to be missing the thing that holds the SIM card in the phone Feb 07 21:44:11 the metal part on it? Feb 07 21:44:12 uh oh Feb 07 21:44:21 oops ignore that Feb 07 21:45:29 there is something funky going on there tho, but maube its ok Feb 07 21:46:03 PatrickC: i don't know if you listened to the engadget podcast, but apparently they had an accidental tweet about JBieber once due to such a thing.. :) Feb 07 21:46:15 * PatrickC only wishes he was on a GSM carrier Feb 07 21:46:26 sanaking, haha Feb 07 21:46:32 this one wasn't that bad :) Feb 07 21:46:55 PatrickC: me too (wishing) Feb 07 21:47:15 what doctor are you making then? wifi only device? Feb 07 21:47:22 I know... carrier control over what phones you can use is maddening Feb 07 21:47:39 it's like being forced to buy a "supported PC" through my ISP Feb 07 21:47:51 my friend was all excited about Republic Wireless, until I told him I had it, and it's not-SIM-based. He didn't believe me, heh.. he also thinks MetroPCS is SIM-card based, so..:) Feb 07 21:48:08 PatrickC: ? wr Feb 07 21:48:27 sanaking, wr = world ready Feb 07 21:48:31 which = sim :) Feb 07 21:48:47 I mean.. well this was going to hold onto this phone for kicks, but a friend wants it so I'm going to sell it to him Feb 07 21:49:22 I think I meant, there's no "wifi doctor" Feb 07 21:49:28 ah Feb 07 21:49:55 i just rebuilt my sprint pre2 today Feb 07 21:50:07 rebuilt? Feb 07 21:50:14 the last one had a wifi radio issue Feb 07 21:50:19 had to wait for replacement to get in Feb 07 21:50:27 oic Feb 07 21:51:03 I don't know what to do with my left over franken parts Feb 07 21:51:24 p102una Feb 07 21:51:32 build a working phone.. :) Feb 07 21:51:39 sanaking, thats the pre2 UMTS iirc Feb 07 21:51:51 so.. make a franken verizon pre- ? Feb 07 21:52:05 why not? Feb 07 21:52:05 lol Feb 07 21:52:20 I get sketched out when I hear about "only 1 phone" per webos profile Feb 07 21:52:24 and that it wipes the other one Feb 07 21:52:46 there are ways around that Feb 07 21:52:49 kinda.. Feb 07 21:52:53 I just go "meh, why bother" Feb 07 21:53:08 would be nice to have as wifi only device... but when would I use it Feb 07 21:53:18 maybe if I had a kid, id give it to em Feb 07 21:53:25 i use a pre3 as a wifi device.. Feb 07 21:53:47 if I need a wifi device, I'll just use the actual phone in my pocket, or, if at home, grab the touchpad Feb 07 21:57:50 umts? Feb 07 22:05:35 any one using pre 2 Feb 07 22:05:41 Indian: (if you are indian-mobile) try the ghastly headset Feb 07 22:05:57 what is that mean? Feb 07 22:06:08 Indian: I've used one, and am trying to doctor one now Feb 07 22:06:28 dwc-: what you mean by ghastly headset? Feb 07 22:06:47 sanaking: what happened to ditching all your webos devices Feb 07 22:06:53 sanaking: have you had the problem of pre2 thinking it got headphones plugged in Feb 07 22:07:18 dwc-: I never said I'd ditch _all_ my webOS devices! I'm the ambassador! Feb 07 22:07:27 Indian: google ghastly headset Feb 07 22:07:55 dwc-: I tried to grab it on webosstation Feb 07 22:08:02 I got file not found error Feb 07 22:09:07 I click on the direct link and I get an ipk Feb 07 22:11:50 dwc-: I think I may have said I'm going to stop selling webOS devices, but clearly I've not done that either :) Feb 07 22:12:22 sanaking: how's your stock of 4G TouchPads lol Feb 07 22:12:55 EricBlade1: man it's like I got no secrets in this cmty, lol. I don't have a stock, I just get one once in a while.. Feb 07 22:13:23 sanaking: lol, you use the same name on the forum, and i know you've sold one or two or more Feb 07 22:13:31 btw. . . WOOT i just got guns n' roses tickets Feb 07 22:14:44 EricBlade1: I know, it was a half-joke :) I'm more surprised at how much people notice/remember things from the forums :) Feb 07 22:15:18 sanaking, UMTS is Unlocked Something hehe.. not sure the exact definition Feb 07 22:15:21 its the unlocked pre2 Feb 07 22:16:03 i think it's "universal mobile telecomm service", or another name for what is known as GSM Feb 07 22:16:13 PatrickC: I believe the unlocked pre2 is the only one avail in the US, and is the standard one? I'm not clear on what the token on this phone is.. :( Feb 07 22:16:39 Universal Mobile Telecommunications System Feb 07 22:16:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System Feb 07 22:17:14 sanaking, Verizon had a pre2 Feb 07 22:17:20 that was available for some time Feb 07 22:17:25 I mean, I'm pretty sure I have the right doctor is what I'm saying, but it won't flash Feb 07 22:18:13 what app you guys use to expire file system on webos Feb 07 22:20:08 PatrickC: installed Macaw, launched for first time, and I'm hanging at the pulsing...uh.. macaw. Feb 07 22:21:42 try a relaunch Feb 07 22:22:32 works now.... Feb 07 22:22:55 man it's ridic what some people try to sell devices for.. I thought a pre2 for $240 was a lot, now I see "Brand New PALM PRE (sprint) - $300"?! Feb 07 22:26:15 PatrickC: can you add columns for searches? Feb 07 22:26:19 or only in new cards? Feb 07 22:26:44 we are working on the adding new cards Feb 07 22:27:03 err it looks like I can pop a search out into a new card already... Feb 07 22:27:57 for me, in Spaz, the ability to just keep adding columns of searches is so killer Feb 07 22:28:15 we're working on that Feb 07 22:28:22 :) Feb 07 22:28:36 word :) Feb 07 22:29:44 follow @projectmacaw for updates on things like that :) im working on a feature that ill be putting a "teaser" screenshot of out soon Feb 07 22:30:00 think I already am Feb 07 22:31:22 PatrickC: and fix that durned maintainer string :P Feb 07 22:33:41 well, i've only ever heard someone complain about "Spoilahs!" so I guess teasers are ok Feb 07 22:36:54 dwc-: I just installed the app you said Feb 07 22:37:02 It won't appear in the list of apps Feb 07 22:58:25 PatrickC: poacher Feb 07 23:16:16 poacher? Feb 07 23:16:27 * PatrickC is confused as well Feb 07 23:17:27 does Tibfib_ work on Spaz? Feb 07 23:18:05