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Mar 03 04:03:38 <EricBlade1> nah usually that message means there's not enough current to charge it properly, but it'll still charge.  like a 500mA Android phone charger will keep my TouchPad topped off in light use, or slowly charge it if i'm not using it
Mar 03 04:16:15 <destinal> EricBlade1: for me it turns off and doesn't charge, it seems
Mar 03 04:16:39 <EricBlade1> maybe it's even lower amperage :O
Mar 03 04:16:56 <destinal> EricBlade1: I think it's different if you're IN webos, but if it drains all the way, something that looks like the official AC adapter is needed for bootie to even turn on charging circuitry
Mar 03 04:17:15 <destinal> with webos (powerd) running it will trickle charge apparently
Mar 03 04:18:00 <EricBlade1> that could be, although i did bring mine up from a complete dead on my 900mA usb connection a couple days ago, while i was still reorganizing my office. probably took 40 minutes before it started.
Mar 03 04:18:24 <destinal> did the charging screen stay on or did it display that error and go blank
Mar 03 04:19:06 <destinal> my current theory is when it displays that error and goes blank the charger turns off too
Mar 03 04:19:16 <EricBlade1> i didn't look at it much, i think it showed the battery with the power symbol in it briefly, then the Euro-AC plug briefly, then the screen shut off
Mar 03 04:19:18 <destinal> (err charging circuit in the TP)
Mar 03 04:19:31 <destinal> I left it for hours :(
Mar 03 04:19:45 <EricBlade1> Scotty, we need more power!
Mar 03 04:20:08 <destinal> what I'm gonna have to do is go find the right resistors and hack up a cable, I think
Mar 03 04:20:20 <destinal> since my original AC adapter is missing
Mar 03 05:36:48 <EricBlade1> destinal: if you're anywhere near Detroit, I have a spare
Mar 03 05:41:14 <scoutcamper> destinal, the nook color charger works nicely
Mar 03 06:08:40 <destinal> scoutcamper: odd,  tried that, didn't work for me
Mar 03 06:09:03 <scoutcamper> destinal, mine works fine
Mar 03 06:09:24 <destinal> scoutcamper: with regular microusb cable?
Mar 03 06:09:37 <scoutcamper> yep
Mar 03 06:11:13 <EricBlade1> destinal, haven't you had this problem before?
Mar 03 06:11:50 <destinal> EricBlade1: nope, maybe I never let it get quite this low before since lost charger, dunno
Mar 03 06:12:00 <scoutcamper> lol
Mar 03 06:15:52 <EricBlade1> hmm. i thought you were one of the guys that couldn't get your touchpad to charge from the beginning ,but it took like 4 hours or something before it finally powered up
Mar 03 06:40:06 <EricBlade1> sugardave: cheers on that blog post.
Mar 03 07:46:46 <sugardave> EricBlade1: thanks! :)
Mar 03 07:49:15 <EricBlade1> yer blog thingamajigger is good
Mar 03 07:49:39 <sugardave> it's just a regular wordpress with a nice theme I found
Mar 03 07:50:39 <EricBlade1> or, as i receive on my blog all the time ... "Im a big fan now, guy. Youve achieved a excellent work earning guaranteed that folks comprehend in which youre coming from. And allow me to inform you, I get it. Great stuff and I cant wait to browse extra within your blogs. What youve received to state is essential and requires to be go through."
Mar 03 07:51:52 <EricBlade1> except that i mean it, i don't want to sell people "hanford outdoor lighting".
Mar 03 07:52:38 <EricBlade1> i meant your article was good, i don't critique website styles unless i hate them :)
Mar 03 07:53:03 <sugardave> hahaha, cool...thanks!
Mar 03 07:53:30 <EricBlade1> and you're right, you are a sick, sick man with all that database stuff.
Mar 03 07:54:01 <sugardave> I know, right?
Mar 03 07:55:32 <EricBlade1> now if only you knew the magic keys required to interface a service to the messaging system. :D
Mar 03 07:56:37 <EricBlade1> i half expect that i'm going to get all of the open webos source code, find the part that i need, go "duh" and have it implemented in no time.  the other half of me expects sheer terror.
Mar 03 07:57:49 <sugardave> well, I anticipate the open webos service stuff to be quite different.  Now, that doesn't necessarily mean easier to wield, but we can always hope :)
Mar 03 07:59:41 <EricBlade1> well, the service itself isn't really -that- difficult.  actually, the configuration files are probably more difficult than the service itself.  If the barebones example had actually had a few bits of explanation, explaining what each part of it did, I think understanding of services wouldn't be quite the black art that i made it out to be
Mar 03 08:00:32 <EricBlade1> hmm. i have an ikea item here that i need to put together.  according to the instructions, i need a guy with an impossibly huge smile to be able to put it together.
Mar 03 08:01:20 <EricBlade1> hmm. touchstones for touchpads also make good keyboard holders
Mar 03 08:26:02 <EricBlade1> we need access to touchpad touchstone coils
Mar 03 08:26:12 <EricBlade1> i so want a wireless keyboard that recharges via touchstone now
Mar 03 08:27:02 <EricBlade1> ... like.. maybe.. the HP wireless touchpad keyboard
Mar 03 14:11:52 <EricBlade1> gah, 9am shouldn't exist
Mar 03 14:19:04 <fxspec06> EricBlade1: you should move to the border of a time zone. then at 8:59, you can move to the future, and at 10:59, you can move back to the past
Mar 03 14:26:37 <EricBlade1> hmm. that'd be like that one day i spent near a time zone line..  We stayed at the bar in one zone till closing time at 2, then hopped over the time zone line to go back an hour, and went to a bar that closed at 4.  At 4 we went to a city that didn't do daylight savings time, so it was 3 there and got another hour of drinking in.
Mar 03 14:27:05 <EricBlade1> but by the time we got back to where we started, it was 6am :(
Mar 03 14:27:09 <EricBlade1> after 6
Mar 03 15:16:34 <haeffb> good morning #webos
Mar 03 15:26:27 <fxspec06> my playbook just came in. this should be a good distraction.
Mar 03 17:42:10 <sugardave> is that haeffb?  I couldn't tell because he's covered in "where the fuck have you been?"
Mar 03 17:44:36 <haeffb> ewww...let me wash that off!
Mar 03 17:44:59 <sugardave> what is UP, man?  long time no talk to
Mar 03 17:45:04 <haeffb> I'm prety sure there's an iPhone app for that.
Mar 03 17:45:50 <sugardave> better be an Enyo app...
Mar 03 17:46:24 <fxspec06> LOL
Mar 03 17:47:32 <haeffb> I'm good. Busy as hell with the new job.
Mar 03 17:47:46 <haeffb> Not done any development work for months.
Mar 03 17:48:20 <haeffb> I read the sugardave story this morning and was moved nearly to tears...
Mar 03 17:50:20 <fxspec06> i hear that haeffb. about the not doing dev work for months and new job thing.
Mar 03 17:50:32 <fxspec06> also second the sugardave story..
Mar 03 17:54:01 <sugardave> haeffb: new new job, or the last new job?
Mar 03 17:59:51 <haeffb> the last new job
Mar 03 18:00:02 <haeffb> it's pretty badass
Mar 03 18:00:18 <sugardave> yeah?  that's good :)
Mar 03 18:00:59 <sugardave> one day I will have to come visit Nerdvana
Mar 03 18:01:07 <haeffb> oh, shit!
Mar 03 18:01:13 <haeffb> you should see it now.
Mar 03 18:01:18 <sugardave> pics?
Mar 03 18:01:36 <haeffb> my A/V receiver went out, so I bought this new Pioneer VSX-1021.
Mar 03 18:01:40 <haeffb> And there's an app for that!
Mar 03 18:01:44 <sugardave> haha
Mar 03 18:02:07 <haeffb> I can sit out in Nerdvana and control everything.
Mar 03 18:02:19 <haeffb> Of course, it's still a bit cool in MO
Mar 03 18:02:32 <sugardave> not here....we didn't really have winter this year
Mar 03 18:02:40 <sugardave> I'm dreading Summer of 2012
Mar 03 18:02:59 <haeffb> not much winter, either, but temps are in the 40's today
Mar 03 18:03:19 <sugardave> not horrible, but definitely coat weather for me :)
Mar 03 18:03:24 <haeffb> upper 60's Thurs, snow yesterday
Mar 03 18:03:42 <sugardave> wow, snow....I only see that when we go to CO
Mar 03 18:03:43 <haeffb> and the tornados! my god, the tornados!
Mar 03 18:03:56 <sugardave> lame
Mar 03 18:04:17 * haeffb supposed to go to Branson next week for a conference, but the convention center got smashed
Mar 03 18:04:54 <haeffb> yesterday was crazy. Started snowing at noon, got about an inch on the ground, then the sun came out and melted it all by 5pm
Mar 03 18:05:10 <haeffb> stoopid MO weather
Mar 03 18:06:50 <sugardave> how long do you guys usually have "cold" weather?
Mar 03 18:08:38 <haeffb> sub 90 degrees? What do texans consider cold?
Mar 03 18:09:23 <haeffb> Nov thru Feb, temps are generally 40's or below
Mar 03 18:09:45 <haeffb> but it can vary wildly from day to day
Mar 03 18:09:47 <sugardave> for me, it's below 50 or so
Mar 03 18:10:32 <haeffb> July and Aug are 90's plus
Mar 03 18:10:50 <haeffb> September and October are pretty nice.
Mar 03 18:10:57 <haeffb> and about a week in the spring
Mar 03 18:19:02 <sugardave> yeah, we usually get the really short spring, but it's been spring since October this time around
Mar 03 18:21:11 <haeffb> hey, do me one favor. Have your 'horns beat Kansas today...
Mar 03 18:22:28 <sugardave> Alright, I put in my request
Mar 03 20:18:34 <cxreg> is git.webos-internals.org workig?
Mar 03 20:19:13 <cxreg> oh nm i just saw the header pointing me to github
Mar 03 21:15:12 <summatusmentis> anyone in here who knows how to read ObjC?
Mar 03 21:34:33 <summatusmentis> so, is the only real way to interact with a C library that's provided by another project is through a plugin right?
Mar 03 21:36:39 <destinal> hybrid style plugin or standalone service or NPAPI plugin
Mar 03 21:37:11 <destinal> the first of these three is probably the easiest option to support
Mar 03 21:37:52 <summatusmentis> I only need access to one portion of the library, and the rest could be done in JS
Mar 03 21:38:12 <destinal> yeah, so using the preware or wIRC model you should be good
Mar 03 21:39:06 <summatusmentis> are plugins affected by device compatibility?
Mar 03 21:39:54 <destinal> well, basically they need to be compiled for the architecture you need.   generally people build an x86 version for the emulator and an armv6 version which works on all the current webos ARM devices
Mar 03 21:40:22 <destinal> the reason armv6 is generally used is to support pixi as well
Mar 03 21:40:34 <destinal> if you don't care about pixi, then armv7 is fine
Mar 03 21:41:31 <summatusmentis> well, front-end is gonna be in enyo
Mar 03 21:41:44 <summatusmentis> so I s'pose pixi is out anyway?
Mar 03 21:41:52 <destinal> doesn't even pixi have enyo these days, the new google maps?
Mar 03 21:42:01 <destinal> err bing maps (google maps replacement)
Mar 03 21:42:35 <summatusmentis> could, I couldn't remember if that was 2.x only or not
Mar 03 21:42:50 <destinal> my 1.4.5 pre- got enyo that way
Mar 03 21:43:47 <destinal> yup just picked up GF's pixi and clicked maps, it prompted to update to the enyo based bing one
Mar 03 21:44:01 <summatusmentis> interesting
Mar 03 21:44:37 <destinal> not sure if hp will let you put enyo apps for pixi in the catalog though, alas
Mar 03 21:44:50 <destinal> or rather whether you can mark them "for pixi"
Mar 03 23:10:52 <Tibfib_> howdy haeffb!
Mar 03 23:28:16 <haeffb> Tibfib_: !!!!
Mar 03 23:28:57 <haeffb> curse the wildcats!
Mar 03 23:32:36 <Tibfib_> huzzah!
Mar 03 23:32:44 <Tibfib_> We are to mizzou what oklahoma is to us
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