**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 29 02:59:58 2012 Mar 29 04:29:39 Good Evening, friends. If I might inquire, can anyone tell me the /path/to/ preware app text config files? Mar 29 04:30:06 that is more of a question for #webos-internals i believe Mar 29 04:31:05 Tried there a second ago and no one seems to be on tonight. (I do confess, that I rarely irc, though.) Mar 29 04:31:35 well, i might be able to help, though i dont do much with preware Mar 29 04:31:50 lets talk in #webos-internals Mar 29 04:32:00 okay, thanks. Mar 29 04:50:47 hi Mar 29 04:50:52 vish, Mojo is kinda the "dead" framework Mar 29 04:51:07 ok Mar 29 04:51:10 Enyo is what is "alive and kicking" right now. there is really no need to learn mojo Mar 29 04:51:25 Enyo will scale itself to look good on screens small and large Mar 29 04:51:34 and is 100% cross platform Mar 29 04:51:58 it even has its own channel, #enyojs, if you have questions about enyo specifically :) Mar 29 04:52:16 but for generall app/webos questions, this is the channel to ask in imo Mar 29 04:54:36 what framework doesw sdk 3.0.5 support Mar 29 04:54:48 Mojo or Enyo Mar 29 04:55:10 Enyo is the one that was designed to run on the tablet interface, Mojo was designed for phones Mar 29 04:55:17 Mojo or Enyo1 Mar 29 04:55:24 Enyo2 is not supported, afaik Mar 29 04:55:29 (beyond in the browser) Mar 29 04:55:32 summatusmentis, even enyo2 will run on 3.0.5 Mar 29 04:55:43 is that actually true? Mar 29 04:55:50 you just need to pack enyo2 into the application and refer to it locally through the index.html Mar 29 04:55:57 oh Mar 29 04:56:06 it's just not the built-in SDK Mar 29 04:56:07 fine Mar 29 04:56:08 and package with phonegap not the reg webos sdk Mar 29 04:56:16 yeah, not built into the SDK (yet) Mar 29 04:56:33 but it does run :) Mar 29 04:57:05 Enyo is not designed fro phones? Mar 29 04:57:11 it is Mar 29 04:57:24 Enyo will run on just about any screen size you put it on Mar 29 04:59:28 still Iam confused...suppose I wanr to write an application for tablet..which frame work i have to use Mar 29 04:59:49 Either. Enyo is better though Mar 29 05:00:43 both code will be different write? Mar 29 05:00:49 yes Mar 29 05:00:56 they are both Javascript frameworks... Mar 29 05:01:04 but Enyo and Mojo are different in many ways Mar 29 05:02:05 ok suppose I wrote an application for Enyo, will it run in all webos device Mar 29 05:02:37 or only in yhose devices which support enyo Mar 29 05:03:38 all webos devices support enyo Mar 29 05:04:13 and what about mojo Mar 29 05:04:20 but enyo is open source now, so enyo1 (currently on webos devices) will run on *any* webkit browser, e.g. iOS, Safari, Android, webOS, BBX (Blackberry Playbook), Chrome, etc. Mar 29 05:04:28 Mojo will run on all webos devices too Mar 29 05:05:40 ok....i can write app for either mojo or enyo with out bothering about target device rtight? Mar 29 05:06:01 well, Mojo wouldn't look as good on a tablet screen, but it would still work Mar 29 05:06:06 Enyo is the way to go Mar 29 05:06:37 ok...thank you verymuch patrick.. Mar 29 05:06:48 no problem Mar 29 05:09:00 which is channel where i can get information about sources and building process Mar 29 05:09:55 well, if you are using enyo, then #enyojs Mar 29 05:11:58 does a webos device contain both frameworks or only one ? Mar 29 05:12:44 they all have both Mar 29 05:19:58 does the (git://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build.git ) contain same source as http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html Mar 29 05:23:15 not sure Mar 29 05:23:25 that is more of a question for #webos-internals ;) Mar 29 05:24:07 preware is the only way to install a package in webos device? Mar 29 05:24:18 or Internalz Mar 29 05:24:29 or, technically, the app catalog too ;) Mar 29 05:46:03 patrick are you ther? Mar 29 05:46:10 yes Mar 29 05:47:02 Ok.what is the extention of patches... Mar 29 05:47:27 is it ipk? Mar 29 06:13:56 they are .patch Mar 29 06:14:03 sorry vish, im trying to work out something in my app Mar 29 06:29:45 hey Patrick Mar 29 06:29:49 yeah? Mar 29 06:32:00 have u ever installed any library package in webos emulator? Mar 29 06:32:07 nope Mar 29 06:35:26 Can u direct me to any site where I can get build and install procedure regarding webos source Mar 29 06:35:44 no clue, sorry Mar 29 06:35:56 webos-internals.org would be the only place i can think of Mar 29 06:35:57 ok.no probs... Mar 29 06:37:18 All webos devices are based on ARM architecture ? Mar 29 06:45:02 yes. i believe Mar 29 06:51:47 Thank you verymuch patrick for ur support Mar 29 06:51:55 no problem Mar 29 06:52:03 * PatrickC goes to fiddle with oAuth some more Mar 29 14:27:05 the app catalog is still broken for me. I got a reply from pdc that they are aware of the issue and will contact me if it's fixed, but it takes really long :( Mar 29 14:38:08 I have the issue of the "palm pre touching itself", which is obviously due to low voltage on the touchscreen. does anyone know if this can be bandaged by increasing core and/or fsb voltage? Mar 29 14:39:18 the forums are packed full of useless rambling by noobies Mar 29 14:44:56 KungPhoo, how is the app catalog broken? Mar 29 14:45:10 krushia, not sure.. maybe #webos-internals might be able to help..? Mar 29 14:45:36 will try there Mar 29 14:46:22 updates end as "Incomplete Apps" Mar 29 14:49:50 KungPhoo, odd.. I've not seed that before Mar 29 15:17:23 so Novacom's out today! :) Mar 29 15:17:29 but where's my MojoDB? ;) Mar 29 15:18:05 also, anyone here know Bdale Garbee at HP? Mar 29 15:18:12 * bigbluehat is off to hear a talk by him at posscon.org Mar 29 15:22:28 is the bootloader open sourced yet? Mar 29 21:51:45 hmm. what is the on-device command for installing a ipk .. Mar 29 21:52:53 ipkg install /path/to/ipk Mar 29 21:53:09 and i normally have to use --force-depends (but im installing apps that need that ;) ) Mar 29 21:53:28 i believe that is the command, its what i use when installing Sprint Nav Mar 29 21:54:07 EricBlade, have you played with enyo2 yet at all? Mar 29 21:54:47 any twitter users in here? i have some questions for u.. Mar 29 21:58:30 here is one Mar 29 21:58:58 14:52 < PatrickC> ipkg install /path/to/ipk Mar 29 21:59:19 dwc-, huh? yeah.. isnt that the command for on-device installing? Mar 29 21:59:21 sebastianha, pm? Mar 29 21:59:25 ok Mar 29 21:59:29 that's probably not what you want, unless you really want it filling up the device's filesystems Mar 29 22:00:03 dwc-, really? ok. noted Mar 29 22:02:00 dwc-: so.. what would one what Mar 29 22:05:41 you're going to want -o /media/cryptofs/apps Mar 30 00:27:02 dwc-: so, ipkg install ipkfile -o /media/cryptofs/apps .. should hook us up just like the regular palm-install ? Mar 30 00:52:31 hmm. i thought i'd found an easy way to do wifi program installs, but i can't seem to quite crack it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:58 2012