**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 09 02:59:58 2012 Apr 09 03:01:04 awww shiz Apr 09 03:01:07 webOS has RTP built in Apr 09 03:13:24 argh Apr 09 03:13:26 no sdp Apr 09 03:57:01 EricBlade1: what r u trying to do? incorperate VoIP into GVoice? :) Apr 09 03:58:35 PatrickC: yea .. Apr 09 03:58:53 really?? nice! (i was kidding.. but awesome!! haha) Apr 09 03:59:14 or make a seperate voip app, since gtalk doesn't use sip signaling Apr 09 03:59:37 how do the iOS apps do it? Apr 09 03:59:54 ios has a voip library built in Apr 09 04:00:24 ahhh Apr 09 04:00:31 webOS seems to have enough pieces to do it, but figuring out how requires knowledge in a ton of areas Apr 09 04:00:47 didnt we have a working SIP client a while ago in Mojo? Apr 09 04:01:02 SIP doesn't seem to be the super difficult part Apr 09 04:01:23 sip signals a call, then transfers it to another protocol, usually rdp Apr 09 04:01:42 i've located the rdp implementation in webOS, but i can't figure out how to connect it to the sip flags yet Apr 09 04:01:49 ahh Apr 09 04:02:11 if there was a working SIP client, wouldnt it have to have made that connection? Apr 09 04:02:25 we're missing the gstreamer module that just takes the SDP data that SIP sends and figures out how to make the RTP connection Apr 09 04:02:39 ahh Apr 09 04:02:46 yeah, and that's all in linphone, which is a whole crap ton of native C Apr 09 04:03:00 oh. they used a C plugin? Apr 09 04:03:03 i see Apr 09 04:03:13 you arent using C i assume? :P Apr 09 04:03:27 no Apr 09 04:04:38 well, then just learni C Apr 09 04:04:40 >_> Apr 09 04:05:16 i need to locate another sip account Apr 09 04:06:05 EricBlade1. I have no idea if I have a sip account. Hell I generally have no idea what my normal cell number is Apr 09 04:06:38 lol Apr 09 04:06:42 * PatrickC is off to bed Apr 09 04:07:01 night all.. gl EricBlade1. i would love to help test once u get it working :) Apr 09 06:36:20 argggggggh Apr 09 13:54:53 Hi, what's the differences between channel #openwebos and #webos? Apr 09 13:55:40 kismeter: #openwebos is the open source successor to #webos Apr 09 13:55:54 right now though discussions go on about both in each Apr 09 13:57:02 bigbluehat:thanks Apr 09 13:58:27 np Apr 09 13:58:32 kismeter: which are you most interested in? :) Apr 09 14:00:20 bigbluehat:I'm just investigating about webos, we want to make a device to run webos Apr 09 14:01:17 nice, then #openwebos is likely the palce Apr 09 14:01:18 *place Apr 09 14:01:23 tho here's fine too :) Apr 09 14:01:27 have you checked out Nyx? Apr 09 14:01:36 that'd be the place/thing to start with at this point Apr 09 14:01:59 it's the abstraction layer that sits between webOS and the kernel Apr 09 14:02:13 bigbluehat:yes, I check it out Apr 09 14:02:46 bigbluehat:did you know when the kernel will be released Apr 09 14:02:56 there's a roadmap somewhere or other... Apr 09 14:04:00 bigbluehat:it seems delayed Apr 09 14:04:24 yeah, most of the code drops have happened on the last day of the month they were promised to be dropped Apr 09 14:04:31 it likely has something to do with the staff cuts :( Apr 09 15:32:24 kismeter bigbluehat there's no code delay Apr 09 15:42:27 EricBlade: cool. I didn't check the roadmap, kismeter did Apr 09 15:42:52 * bigbluehat is still just glad it's happening Apr 09 15:43:12 the kernel wasn't on HP to deliver, it's just the linux standard kernel Apr 09 15:51:38 developer sales reports are up Apr 09 15:53:47 what are the rules on getting paid from the euro accounts? is it when it's greater than $100 ? Apr 09 15:55:28 oh, also, if anyone needs a touchpad still.. http://www.buy.com/prod/recertified-hp-touchpad-16gb-tablet/228764156.html Apr 09 16:04:27 i cant believe how expensive those are now :D Apr 09 16:11:08 dead. Apr 09 16:11:31 it was at $145ish earlier, now up to $257 Apr 09 18:12:17 so.. i managed to get webOS to receive data from a voip service .. but gstreamer was crashing trying to play it Apr 09 18:13:07 and the gstreamer people are about as unhelpful as it gets Apr 09 18:17:22 EricBlade, What errors do you get when it crashes? Apr 09 18:21:05 wrea: something about data overrun .. i'm sure i'm not expecting the right format, but i have no idea what i'm doing wrong Apr 09 18:23:41 Wondering if some of the telepathy guys might be able to help you Apr 09 18:23:52 Since the work is somewhat related Apr 09 18:27:51 what gstreamer plugins are you using? Apr 09 19:04:44 wrea .. sorry, got sidetracked Apr 09 19:05:04 http://pastebin.com/LiLCc5Kn Apr 09 19:06:28 wrea: if you know anyone that knows this stuff that isn't a "read the docs again" dbag, and might be able to tell me what i'm doing wrong, that'd be awesome Apr 09 19:18:08 wrea: another option would be getting the SDP reader plugin for gstreamer, but the documentation doesn't acknowledge any possible way of using plugins that aren't part of the main build, or included wtih a distribution .. i know it's possible, but no one seems to know how Apr 09 19:20:40 EricBlade, gst-launch --gst-plugin-path ? Apr 09 19:23:59 wrea: ahhh i see. Apr 09 19:24:14 then just to figure out how to actually build it for webos Apr 09 19:24:22 lol, yeah.. Apr 09 19:25:36 wrea: didn't you do some native building ? Apr 09 19:25:44 Using the palm sources you'll run into problems Apr 09 19:26:17 Yeah, did the pulseaudio stuff Apr 09 20:27:13 http://jalopnik.com/5900275/new-chrysler-wireless-charging-system-is-like-an-in+car-powermat?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Apr 09 20:32:39 8.27 inches by 9.5 inches by 3.25 inches Apr 09 20:32:56 whoa! it's a touchstone! but with a different name! !! Apr 09 22:16:39 drove my neon to the smaller garage since the new neon gets here saturday and needs to be in the bigger garage with the subaru :P Apr 09 22:17:00 2nd time in 5 years ive driven it :P altho around the street corner barely counts Apr 09 23:10:51 power outage?! Apr 09 23:14:18 those still exist Apr 09 23:37:09 dawm: wait you're getting rid of a neon to ... buy a new neon? why? Apr 09 23:37:34 not getting rid of any Apr 09 23:37:47 i have 2 garages, a 2.5 car and a 1 car Apr 09 23:38:04 moved the 98 turbo r/t to the 1 car, so the 2002 can be in the big garage so i can work on it Apr 09 23:38:22 $150, owner will tow it to my house and i get a ton of parts/engines..etc Apr 09 23:38:32 couldnt pass it up Apr 10 00:17:59 ohhh Apr 10 00:18:02 that kind of new Apr 10 00:18:10 lol Apr 10 01:47:11 hey guys **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 10 02:59:59 2012