**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 05 03:00:01 2012
May 05 04:45:01 <Kromm> Hello webos faithful
May 05 04:46:08 <Kromm>  finally decided to get rid of touchpad
May 05 05:11:37 <fxspec06> http://www.tapclix.com/
May 05 06:52:55 <EricBlade> wow avg price on amazon for touchpads is now a bit over $300 for 32gig
May 05 13:09:41 <bigbluehat> summatusmentis: I believe there is...
May 05 13:09:45 <bigbluehat> you'd make a service or some such
May 05 13:09:51 <bigbluehat> EricBlade would know for sure
May 05 14:52:16 <EricBlade> bigbluehat: what were you bringing me up to summatusmentis about?
May 05 15:58:37 <EricBlade> anyone know the proper way to include a node module in a service?  require('modulename') just gives me Error: Cannot find module ..
May 05 17:08:16 <summatusmentis> EricBlade1: background location tracking, ideally using phonegap
May 05 17:08:23 <summatusmentis> or really, background anything
May 05 17:36:29 <EricBlade1> summatusmentis: i guess that depends on what you want to do .. doesn't really have much of anything to do with phonegap, although their location APIs might work
May 05 17:51:02 <madnificent> summatusmentis: it's something i'd assume enyo provides you with.  a headless app
May 05 17:51:23 <madnificent> summatusmentis: in mojo you could have your application running without a graphical frontend
May 05 17:52:21 <madnificent> EricBlade1: you've checked that node can find your module, right?  i don't know much, if anything about it, but that's the only sane comment i can give you.
May 05 18:19:34 <EricBlade> madnificent: apparently one has to supply the absolute path to the node module to be able to include it
May 05 18:20:24 <madnificent> doesn't that break abstraction?
May 05 18:20:38 <madnificent> you don't know for sure where your application will be on each device, methinks
May 05 18:24:33 <EricBlade> fortunately, there is a node call that can tell you that information
May 05 18:24:49 <EricBlade> there might be a better way, but that's the way that i found
May 05 18:25:56 <madnificent> build a wrapper around it and pretend it's a built-in... instant satisfaction
May 05 19:09:05 <EricBlade> gaah i can't get my service to return an error result for some reason :|
May 05 19:28:22 <EricBlade> gah futures are confusing sometimes
May 05 19:49:00 <EricBlade> blah. i need to find an example of a service returning an error condition so i can actually make my service error properly
May 05 19:49:09 <EricBlade> it's not as simple as setting the returnvalue to false, as one would expect
May 05 20:14:54 <EricBlade> well, sort of got it.  just need to figure out how to actually return a printable error to the accounts app
May 05 20:42:36 <EricBlade> boo yah!
May 05 20:42:40 <EricBlade> took me a while.
May 05 20:47:47 <EricBlade> http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9049/accounts20120505164229.png
May 05 20:57:47 <EricBlade> awesome, Robitaille is working for Palm now
May 05 20:59:36 <EricBlade> alright, getting a node service to actually login to an account was another major achievement. yay!
May 05 21:06:40 <summatusmentis> EricBlade: the thing is, I want a GUI for an app, but I want notification of a location based event, even if the app is closed, ideally on all phonegap platforms
May 05 21:06:57 <EricBlade> ah.  That's a problem.
May 05 21:07:15 <EricBlade> first, what do you mean by a "location based event"?
May 05 21:13:41 <halfhalo> Heh, enyo intern== working under matt mcnulty== pretty fun
May 05 21:15:16 * halfhalo has been there, done that
May 05 21:15:30 <halfhalo> No T-Shirt though, only a jacket.
May 05 21:15:40 <halfhalo> And a giant frisbee.
May 05 21:23:26 <summatusmentis> EricBlade: our application defines geographic regions. When the app recognizes that you are within that region, we'd like to be able to notify you (even if the app is closed)
May 05 21:24:27 <summatusmentis> and, as far as I can tell, the only way to do that is to write native plugins for that functionality, and then use those w/ phonegap
May 05 21:26:20 <EricBlade> yeah .. and running code to check those sorts of things in multitasking-questionable environments such as .. everything that isn't webOS .. is difficult
May 05 21:26:45 <EricBlade> hmm. interesting. the Palm documentation on synergy notes a "blogging" synergy system
May 05 21:35:25 <EricBlade> i wonder if it's possible to just arbitrarily create new synergy systems.
May 05 21:35:33 <EricBlade> not that there'd be a lot of point to it, but .. whatevs
May 06 02:08:01 <EricBlade> how is it that one day i'm able to have what seems to be like a complete understanding of an api that confuses the hell out of me most days, and the next, i can't even read the code i wrote.  i need to sleep better.
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