**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 28 02:59:58 2012 May 28 03:32:00 well, here goes nothing May 28 03:34:17 WP7 wild'n is going to have pre3 screenies May 28 03:34:58 fxspec06: why? May 28 03:35:16 * fxspec06 because it can MUAHAHAHAA May 28 03:35:56 and because it's not only literally the exact same, it's also pixel for pixel and it has better hands to pick from and i don't feel like generating each hand i want May 28 03:36:18 Ah haha okay May 28 03:36:42 crap, except for this straight flush image with 2 8's.. o.O May 28 03:40:33 EricBlade: thanks for the update, just installed May 28 03:41:28 you might notice it being a LOT quieter. the code i wrote at 6am to set the flags didn't work. it was 6am. May 28 03:41:59 Ah haha okay May 28 03:44:46 lol May 28 03:45:28 so i can't sell wild'n in bahrain, iraq, qatar, saudi arabia, or the united arab emirates May 28 03:46:13 yeah even fake gambling is a mortal sin there. o.O May 28 03:46:33 it's not even simulated gambling. it's like faker than fake May 28 03:46:40 it's not even fake dollars May 28 03:46:46 youcould call it points May 28 03:46:51 i suppose May 28 03:47:08 but you'll encourage people to really gamble. and you don't want arab nations upset with you. May 28 03:47:40 so.. you say this is on windows phone? May 28 03:47:41 oh no. if there's one thing i don't want is to get bombed by the arabs bc i enabled their citizens to practice gambling May 28 03:48:00 s/bombed/sued May 28 03:48:12 ya, windows phone May 28 03:48:20 enyo? May 28 03:48:28 nope, enyo free May 28 03:48:46 next app will be enyo multi platform. if i can make it work on phones nicely that'd be nice May 28 03:55:56 The why are you reconnecting now... May 28 03:56:02 *grrr May 28 04:23:29 let's see how stable it is when using my cell connection May 28 04:24:38 Wibble May 28 04:27:29 wobble May 28 04:30:57 Mibble May 28 04:32:37 So how is it? May 28 04:32:48 eblade-synergy: buzz May 28 04:32:59 oh ya, you never gave me ipk to install May 28 04:33:42 The cell data connection seems better so far than the cable .. Damn cheap router May 28 04:34:24 You want to give this a run? May 28 04:34:52 sure, i'd love to May 28 04:35:13 Email? May 28 04:35:25 bshado at charter dot net May 28 04:36:22 * fxspec06 dusts off the WKB May 28 04:36:51 Ok sent May 28 04:37:39 commands supported right now: join, part, me May 28 04:40:31 i need an office with a desk that surrounds me 270 degrees May 28 04:41:21 file format not supported -- preware install ? May 28 04:42:38 got it May 28 04:47:22 bwahaha May 28 04:47:59 now this is cool May 28 04:52:08 can't seem to reconnect May 28 04:52:24 trying to join two rooms May 28 04:52:55 yeah, it's not letting me connect now May 28 04:55:18 there's some problems with reconnect, i think it has to do with trying to restart the service while it is still running or something May 28 04:55:44 that sounds about right May 28 04:55:55 pretty difficult to intentionally recreate, happens all the time when i'm not trying to though May 28 04:56:02 but if I wanted to join another chat room it's luna reboot May 28 04:56:14 lol May 28 04:56:30 Really? Join works fine here May 28 04:56:43 this is cool. I should use touchpad irc more often May 28 04:57:00 better than taking up screen real estate. but then, 2nd keyboard in lap is no fun May 28 04:57:17 no I mean rejoin.. May 28 04:58:13 Oh.. I think if it locks up trying to connect, close the app and wait a bit before relaunching May 28 04:58:23 ah May 28 05:33:38 hey dkirker_ how goes May 28 05:33:52 hey EricBlade! May 28 05:33:57 just playing with XO May 28 05:34:02 the UI is confusing.... May 28 05:38:00 dkirker: hmm. on touchpad or phone May 28 05:38:14 Phone. Though probably both, if they use the same UI. May 28 05:38:21 *same/similar May 28 05:38:51 well the tablet has drag-drop playlist configuration, but other than that, yeah they are pretty similar May 28 05:39:49 otherwise, I think that it is very cool! May 28 05:39:50 i would be happy to answer any questions, and entertain any suggestions, though May 28 05:39:58 alright! May 28 05:40:13 i do have a pretty lengthy todo list on it, that i haven't been paying attention to, thanks to things like.. oh, paid work, though. May 28 05:40:33 lol, I know how that goes. May 28 05:40:39 You should see my list of webOS things. May 28 05:40:56 I want to add DLNA support, car exhibition mode, etc. to Koto Player. May 28 05:41:08 And far more interest personally and otherwise in the communications apps May 28 05:41:09 and of course every thing else that I have told you that I want to do... May 28 05:41:30 Yeah! I am looking forward to Synergy Google Voice on my Pre3. :) May 28 05:41:41 And Google needs to add MMS support to GVoice... May 28 05:42:16 you can receive MMS from at least some carriers now, it will email you the msg though May 28 05:42:21 dkirker: more Touch-to-Share functionality! May 28 05:42:42 EricBlade: I believe that it is only Sprint... :/ May 28 05:43:11 invalidopcode: I wish that they would have just used NFC instead of some custom stuff... May 28 05:43:35 i thought it was sprint only, too, but the one that i have received was from a straighttalk customer May 28 05:43:39 true... but still it would be nice if they opened up what's their so we can play with it :/ May 28 05:43:54 i thought straighttalk was att/t-mo mvno, but i guess maybe they do sprint in some areas ? May 28 05:44:10 * dkirker looks May 28 05:44:14 could be like Tracfone May 28 05:44:15 invalidopcode: there's an API for it accessible to Enyo, what more do you want ... :P May 28 05:44:27 Well, it is TracFone now... May 28 05:44:30 course you can only transfer short bits of text .. but .. May 28 05:44:42 i'm on straighttalk-att May 28 05:44:58 Are you able to MMS your GVoice number? May 28 05:45:00 EricBlade: I just looked at it... all you can do is transfer URLs to the web browser.... unless i miss understood it May 28 05:45:15 dkirker: i haven't got mms working on my pre3 :( that i'm aware of anyway May 28 05:45:26 invalidopcode: that is correct May 28 05:46:02 it's my understanding that they don't necessarily need to be URLs, though, and they don't have to go to the browser May 28 05:46:11 okay yeah... it would be great if we could at least transfer to other apps... it looks like palm was anticipating it, but they didn't finish it May 28 05:46:28 https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/touch2share.html May 28 05:47:30 "By tapping one device against the other, the webOS 3.0 Touch2Share feature allows a user to share a URL between two Touch2Share-enabled devices. On the receiving device, the browser application is launched to this URL." May 28 05:47:32 ohh.. ok, so my understanding was not correct May 28 05:48:01 yeah their isn't currently a way for an app to register to receive data from tts May 28 05:48:14 hmm.. May 28 05:49:03 well, my theoretical workaround, which i havent' figured out exactly how to implement, involves setting up a mime-type for your app May 28 05:49:12 and then setting it up as mime-handler for that type May 28 05:49:37 then you send a custom URL to the browser with whatever data that is needed, which will open a proxy page of that mimetype, to launch the app May 28 05:49:42 it's kinda a sick idea May 28 05:50:32 it's the only way i have managed to come up with to get a potential google voice app to launch from a link in the messaging app May 28 05:50:33 it looks like that's how it should work, but its not implemented yet May 28 05:51:01 since the browser can't load file: .. can it? May 28 05:51:19 even if it could, i'm not sure it can be told what mime-type that way May 28 05:51:46 hm.... May 28 05:52:32 if the browser can load file:// and you can supply a file that triggers a custom mime-type, then it's a much shorter workaround at least May 28 05:52:40 interesting... i just tried clicking the "file:" link that the messaging app made in your message, and it made the messaging app go white... May 28 05:53:03 it also said you pressed the disconnect button May 28 05:53:22 I did that on purpose though :P May 28 05:57:52 I really can't believe how much more stable this is with my phone providing the connection May 28 05:58:30 I wonder if the touchpad drops persistent connections at the briefest uncertainty of the wifi May 28 05:58:56 EricBlade: I have a better solution. Still a bit of a hack... But I also have an even better solution. :) May 28 05:59:06 oh? May 28 05:59:23 And, yes, the browser can load file schemes, but there is some JS disabling it. May 28 05:59:37 We are getting open webOS, so make it work right. :) May 28 06:00:10 Also, have your app register for a custom scheme (or URL type, like http://www.myapp.com/action). May 28 06:00:14 couldn't opening file:// urls be considered a security issue? May 28 06:00:29 yes, which is why the browser doesn't allow it. May 28 06:00:37 But, WebKit can't prevent it. May 28 06:01:07 ah okay May 28 06:04:28 dkirker: i was hoping you had a better idea that would work now. as is, mimetype handlers are allowable per ben, i have no idea how to register a scheme May 28 06:05:48 hmmm, it uses the same mechanism May 28 06:06:01 I'll have to tell you later (taking care of some stuff right now). May 28 06:06:13 But, I don't know if schemes will be auto-rejected. May 28 06:07:11 know of anything i can go looking at to find info? on device May 28 06:08:08 ben did mention that the mimetypes would have to be manually approved May 28 06:09:25 the Universe github account has stuff in the checkin history May 28 06:13:11 only mention of you i find in github is in someone's fortunes file May 28 06:20:30 github.com/openmobl/universe May 28 06:21:46 o hey eblade May 28 06:21:52 this thing stopped beeping May 28 06:22:10 the screen was off. but now it's beeping again when app has focs May 28 06:22:48 i thought nobody was in here, coz nothing was beepin May 28 06:25:35 a most recent change was to only drop notifications on a mention May 28 06:25:45 otherwise it's terrifying May 28 06:25:51 ya but May 28 06:25:53 the beeping May 28 06:26:02 i'm getting left over beeps now like insane May 28 06:26:22 i just submitted a patch to preware May 28 06:26:53 sweet May 28 06:26:55 it works May 28 06:27:03 what works May 28 06:27:10 the irc May 28 06:30:26 so.. what should i do about msg notifications .. you're right it's like totally silent now unless someone mentions you or you do something May 28 06:30:51 particularly after installing my patch that will silence all the extra beeps May 28 06:31:47 i'd say make sure it beeps on a message May 28 06:31:57 but make sure it doesn't beep ridiculously lol May 28 06:32:46 i don't mind if it beeps May 28 06:32:51 if the screen's off May 28 06:33:02 notification is too much May 28 06:33:40 well, if i just stick with what's in the messaging app, we have the choice of "notification" or "no notification" May 28 06:34:04 and the messaging app adds whatever number of beeps it is strangely coded to add May 28 06:34:10 patch the messaging app for "maybeNotification" :) May 28 06:34:36 lol May 28 06:34:49 just make a random function for the beeps May 28 06:35:27 well all those extra beeps are because it beeps for every message that it thinks is not marked read, that is drawn in the current display view May 28 06:35:29 it probably already does :P http://xkcd.com/221/ May 28 06:36:02 ah, yes the unread notification May 28 06:36:18 notifications are a pain . i remember, that was the hardest part about vooglexl May 28 06:36:49 so when you rotate to portrait, it beeps say 8 times. when you go to landscape, say 4 times, if you bring up the keyboard, 2 times, clear the keyboard, 4 times May 28 06:36:54 depending on how many messages are drawn May 28 06:37:21 hmm May 28 06:37:22 the patch i submitted removes those beeps entirely May 28 06:37:24 interesting. May 28 06:37:39 yeah open up ConversationList.js . It's really interesting reading May 28 06:37:50 if you like going "what on earth were they thinking" May 28 06:38:04 i think i reda that once May 28 06:38:25 i've dissected messaging a couple times May 28 07:15:29 okay night all! May 28 07:22:59 hmm. interesting. PAN is the bluetooth profile everyone wants for networking right May 28 07:23:45 looking thru the download manager binary there's quite a few references to it May 28 07:25:25 holy crap. i just wrote a nested shorthand if May 28 07:25:33 does that make it a longhand shorthand if May 28 07:29:21 =O http://i.imgur.com/XFKyR.png this is nearly looking good May 28 16:25:19 * fxspec06 stretches May 28 16:50:28 fxspec06: starting to look more like cards ;) :D May 28 16:50:57 fxspec06: with the corner you have on the left right now, you could indicate the player. it's an unoccupied space anyways May 28 16:51:19 fxspec06: if you catch my drift May 28 16:52:05 fxspec06: and you can use the popup thing for saved (in the gallery) if you don't want to style it yourself (it fits in your style i think) May 28 16:53:01 fxspec06: and -- i don't know -- but you could try making the background of legend solid black, instead of grey. it /might/ look very good because it will then separate it more from the rest. May 28 16:53:16 and it is indeed starting to look sick May 28 16:54:43 * madnificent wonders how it will actually work May 28 16:55:44 well that was the game screen. notice how they are matchups there, and not just individiaul seeds May 28 16:57:06 the saved is already styled. that's my brand new info kind May 28 16:57:56 but i am liking the idea of using that corner as the user color May 28 16:58:38 no clue how it'd look. i have to focus on the uglier screens first i think. i have some pretty terrible looking game / series kinds.. May 28 17:15:27 so madnificent May 28 17:16:38 you're saying you like http://i.imgur.com/jkAqB.png the way this looks May 28 17:20:53 fxspec06: yeah, i think it's quite good May 28 17:21:26 i don't know if there's a particular reason to add the black borders, but if there is, then i'd let them touch. that way it'll look more like the elements are popping out May 28 17:21:47 dunno May 28 17:22:54 the black borders were for the games, to separate matchups May 28 17:23:43 yeah, i understood it there (and it holds there too, but in the latest they aren't grouped anymore) May 28 17:38:33 hmm flaw: if i do that, i admit it looks nice.. but the user taps on the circle to change which user controls which team May 28 17:38:50 i could do like, onhold May 28 17:38:58 and get rid of circle May 28 17:42:35 you should be my UI designer May 28 20:54:40 well, that's freakin weird. when XO is running, any time a device goes to sleep or exhibition, it triggers the rendered() event May 28 21:04:52 aha! it's triggering a popup to close even though it's not ope May 28 21:04:55 *open May 28 21:05:08 then that popup is calling an app re render **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 29 02:59:58 2012