**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 10 03:00:02 2012 Jun 10 03:22:49 Invalidopcode, ping Jun 10 03:28:36 invalidopcode! Jun 10 03:28:46 PatrickC! Jun 10 03:29:04 * PatrickC *sigh* no good irc client on android :/ Jun 10 03:29:38 pm? Jun 10 04:31:24 why can't you close individual dashboard layers on enyo with phones? Jun 10 06:10:26 invalidopcode: my guess is that that isn't implemented there Jun 10 06:10:48 EricBlade: :/ Jun 10 06:10:58 it is possible that it may be just a difference between the phone and tablet version of enyo Jun 10 06:11:06 yeah Jun 10 06:11:11 or maybe it was removed because it didn't work on phones Jun 10 06:11:21 or maybe it requires some other support elsewhere that isn't there Jun 10 06:11:33 is there a way to change the text of a dashboard that's already displayed? Jun 10 06:12:10 i guess I could try ripping the dashboard code off the touchpad and see if it works on the phone to see if its an enyo difference Jun 10 06:12:14 i would suspect that there is Jun 10 06:12:25 you could just look at /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo on the phone Jun 10 06:12:30 and find the Dashboard Jun 10 06:12:41 i've been in there already this week :P Jun 10 06:12:57 fixing the white-notification issue Jun 10 06:17:14 EricBlade: did you try out the client yet? Jun 10 06:17:33 ? Jun 10 06:17:46 the boxcar client... Jun 10 06:17:54 did you send me an update somewhere? Jun 10 06:18:20 yeah, I posted the code on github... or do you need me to build it for you :P Jun 10 06:18:41 https://github.com/mscoolnerd/Boxcar-for-WebOS Jun 10 06:21:38 i see Jun 10 06:22:09 yeah no passwords this time :P Jun 10 06:25:44 first, you should make sure you're using the email address keyboard and not using spell correction on the username input :) which reminds me i need to check my logins to make sure they are doing both of those properly Jun 10 06:26:17 i know about the spell correction... i thought I turned it off Jun 10 06:26:27 what about the email address keyboard though? Jun 10 06:26:42 there's a way to specify an input to use a keyboard for email addresses, it has an "@" on it Jun 10 06:26:53 maybe it's just auto-caps that's on there Jun 10 06:27:02 it tried to correct my name Jun 10 06:27:19 ok, well, looks like it's working. should it do anything other than pop up a dashboard? Jun 10 06:27:35 ah okay found it :) Jun 10 06:27:42 and nope! that means its working Jun 10 06:27:59 i know i need to make it do something to the login screen, but I can't gotten around to it Jun 10 06:28:25 i'm eventually going to make that screen into a preferences screen after a successful login Jun 10 06:28:28 holy good god, i sent a message to myself in gvoice, and it picked up on touchpad almost before i hit "send" Jun 10 06:28:45 hahaha Jun 10 06:28:54 that's what push notifications are :P Jun 10 06:29:26 if you click on the gv notifications it whould open gvoice too :) Jun 10 06:31:18 ok, remind me of this -- when setting up an account in synergy gv, it needs to record the account ID somewhere, so it can keep track of what accounts are created for it, then i can setup a method that your app can call to trigger a sync across any configured gvoice accounts Jun 10 06:31:48 i'm going to go put that in the todo list Jun 10 06:32:53 hm.... sure Jun 10 06:33:02 ok you don't have to remind me of that now it's on the todo Jun 10 06:33:08 haha Jun 10 06:34:14 ah... okay after reading your message a couple times, so you want me to call your service when my app gets a gvoice message? Jun 10 06:34:56 yeah i'll put in a service function so you can do a PalmService call that will cause synergv to sync Jun 10 06:35:48 If I were doing it, i'd have the option to either launch gvoice or sync synergv, and to post a notification for boxcar or not Jun 10 06:36:02 or, rather Jun 10 06:36:13 have an option to either sync synergv, or post a notification Jun 10 06:36:32 the notification tap would launch either gvoice or the future app to be included with synergv Jun 10 06:38:30 okay I'm open to that Jun 10 06:38:52 honestly, I'm pretty much open to anything haha Jun 10 06:39:45 i'm wondering if I can move my app into a service though Jun 10 06:40:23 because if node supports websockets, maybe I could have it wake the service when a packet comes in Jun 10 06:42:40 i think you'd be stuck with having the inelegant solution i have for irc. Jun 10 06:43:11 which is still pretty questionable, since i don't know where the source of disconnections is happening, the touchpad is too damn noisy on the logs for me to just sit and watch it Jun 10 06:43:41 there has to be some kind of socket support, at least in 3.0.5, though, because IRC works somehow Jun 10 06:43:52 but i have not even cracked open the node-irc code in the slightest Jun 10 06:44:01 ah okay Jun 10 06:44:26 ok, here's something you could remind us of when open webos happens though Jun 10 06:44:54 haha yeah Jun 10 06:44:55 build a system service that will handle keeping a socket open and listening, then wake an app or service when data is received on it Jun 10 06:45:07 well the messaging plugins have to do it somehow Jun 10 06:45:20 because those are all open sockets Jun 10 06:45:35 yeah but the messaging services run all the time Jun 10 06:45:48 ture Jun 10 06:45:49 and this could be super awesome Jun 10 06:45:50 *true Jun 10 06:45:57 so keep that idea Jun 10 06:46:01 okay I will Jun 10 06:47:05 hell build it into activityManager Jun 10 06:48:13 or have a seperate socketManager Jun 10 06:48:29 and activityManager can trigger an action on data received Jun 10 06:49:17 hm... that's actually a pretty good Jun 10 06:49:28 this actually sounds like a lot of fun Jun 10 06:52:20 maybe i should go work for HP now that i'm not in the game business Jun 10 06:52:25 lol Jun 10 06:53:38 haha... actually doesn't sound like a bad idea :P Jun 10 06:53:49 ok, so, that's good work for a start on that Box app. do you have an iPad so you can reference their app? Jun 10 06:54:06 btw I just commited/pushed the keyboard change Jun 10 06:54:35 no, i don't. I used to use their ipod version like 2 years ago, but i've been referencing their desktop web client Jun 10 06:55:15 well i'm holding my former client's iPad hostage until they send me my last pay, so i've got at least a little bit of usage left in it Jun 10 06:55:46 i haven't used it other than just actually configuring it, though Jun 10 06:55:58 ah haha okay Jun 10 06:57:26 it's not very complex, though it looks like Jun 10 06:57:56 nope, and as far as the dev docs go its like one page haha Jun 10 06:58:16 http://boxcar.io/help/api/stream Jun 10 06:58:17 i open it up, and i've got a box with some icons for the configured services, an "Add a Service" icon and a "All Messages" icon Jun 10 06:58:30 yup Jun 10 06:58:36 the views themselves are very basic Jun 10 06:58:39 that's similar to the desktop Jun 10 06:58:45 you could so crush it Jun 10 06:58:53 ? Jun 10 06:59:05 you could make a tablet app that would be way more awesome Jun 10 06:59:12 ah haha okay :) Jun 10 06:59:18 two columns ftw Jun 10 06:59:44 actually the touchpad version before just loaded a webview with the desktop webapp in it Jun 10 07:00:12 but i replaced the webview with the login screen Jun 10 07:01:16 i wonder if anyone's figured out the noWindow stuff for Enyo 2 yet . . i know there was some talk about it on the dev forums Jun 10 07:02:38 oh i had a question about that for you Jun 10 07:03:19 the Enyo 2 panels are really awesome compared to Enyo 1's sliders Jun 10 07:03:32 if you close the app and then launch it again, it will load the dashboard and everything, but the pulsing screen just sits there... you can close it and everything will work fine, but its kindof annoying Jun 10 07:03:48 really? haven't tried them yet Jun 10 07:04:42 is it a noWindow app already? Jun 10 07:05:23 yup Jun 10 07:05:52 it feels like something should return something to tell mr pulse to go away Jun 10 07:14:32 whatever though, i can figure that out later Jun 10 07:29:57 ok I'm off for tonight Jun 10 07:30:02 night everyone Jun 10 07:34:30 goodbye, Meebo Jun 10 20:29:03 khan academy app gives me an error that it can't connect to the server (i have an internet connection), any clues? Jun 10 21:11:54 in enyo 1 does anyone know if you can stop a noWindow app from closing when one of its dashboards are closed? Jun 10 21:34:39 invalidopcode: i think twitter apps do it Jun 10 21:34:49 i would check things like Spaz HD Jun 10 21:34:58 PatrickC: I know the email app does it Jun 10 21:35:09 the email app also uses the com.palm domain :) Jun 10 21:35:23 so that's what I'm looking through right now, but I'll check them out in a little bit :P Jun 10 21:35:47 u can always go the route that IngloriousApps did with Glimpse Jun 10 21:36:01 which is? Jun 10 21:36:19 have a developer cut which uses the com.palm domain Jun 10 21:36:28 haha Jun 10 21:36:32 just have the link somewhere in the app available via a remote connection Jun 10 21:36:43 gives people who want it the ability to have it :) Jun 10 21:36:54 without having to jump through a ton oh hoops haha Jun 10 21:37:09 actually, if i can get the dashboard to not close the whole app then I can have a no-dashboard notifications :) Jun 10 21:37:28 exactly Jun 10 21:37:38 but that might only be available to com.palm domains :) Jun 10 21:37:40 im not sure though Jun 10 21:37:44 I don't think so Jun 10 21:37:56 the email app takes an interesting approach Jun 10 21:38:07 but like i said, check with some of the open source enyo apps Jun 10 21:38:18 even NomNom does it if im not mistaken (cc Tibfib) Jun 10 21:39:11 hm... okay Jun 10 21:39:54 wait so what apps should I be looking at? Jun 10 21:40:11 Spaz HD and NomNomNom for Google Reader i think Jun 10 21:40:17 try to stay away from anything com.palm Jun 10 21:40:21 okay Jun 10 21:41:29 because anything that uses com.palm isn't app catalog approved, and they may use a different way then then regular apps Jun 10 21:41:34 well, ive got to go (again lol) Jun 10 21:41:35 cya Jun 10 21:42:02 haha okay cya Jun 11 02:30:31 hmmmmm Jun 11 02:30:46 invalidopcode: ah yes, it's a pain in the butt Jun 11 02:57:44 hey Tibfib Jun 11 02:57:46 long time no see Jun 11 02:58:00 hey patrick, how are you doing? Jun 11 02:58:07 im doin good Jun 11 02:58:15 still doing any dev work? Jun 11 02:58:59 yeah, actually Jun 11 02:59:02 started an enyo2 project Jun 11 02:59:08 ah nice! Jun 11 02:59:14 brb, gotta go do something Jun 11 02:59:26 ill talk to u in a second :) wanna know about this project :P Jun 11 02:59:50 haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 11 02:59:58 2012