**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 11 02:59:58 2012
Jun 11 03:05:25 <invalidopcode> Tibfib: so it is possible to keep a noWindow app open even with no dashboards open?
Jun 11 03:05:55 <Tibfib> nope
Jun 11 03:06:04 <Tibfib> the os will kill it after a few minutes or so
Jun 11 03:06:41 <invalidopcode> :/
Jun 11 03:07:21 <invalidopcode> well PatrickC that's the end of that.... you will have to have a dashboard open as long as I keep that code in an app
Jun 11 03:07:51 <invalidopcode> but I might be moving it to a service soon
Jun 11 03:28:48 <PatrickC> Tibfib: so... whats this new app? :)
Jun 11 03:29:09 <Tibfib> haven't announce it yet
Jun 11 03:29:33 <PatrickC> aww
Jun 11 03:29:34 <PatrickC> ok
Jun 11 03:29:53 <Tibfib> s/announce/announced/
Jun 11 03:30:00 <Tibfib> I will soon hopefully
Jun 11 03:30:26 <PatrickC> nice
Jun 11 03:30:41 <PatrickC> im working on a new project, but don't have tons of time with my new job :/
Jun 11 03:33:57 <Tibfib> ah, ever finished a project yet?
Jun 11 03:35:37 <PatrickC> well, never had the push to finish a project till now
Jun 11 03:35:42 <PatrickC> :)
Jun 11 03:35:47 <Tibfib> hahahaha, so no
Jun 11 03:35:57 <PatrickC> mebe :)
Jun 11 03:36:11 <PatrickC> till now, its always just been "this is a cool idea, lets try"
Jun 11 03:36:25 <PatrickC> now its "this is a cool idea that i know will be successful, lets finish it"
Jun 11 03:40:05 <PatrickC> Tibfib: you still in college?
Jun 11 03:40:30 <Tibfib> I have yet to be in college
Jun 11 03:41:03 <PatrickC> ah really? i always thought u were older then me..? (or have u just not gone yet?)
Jun 11 03:41:53 <Tibfib> I'll start this fall
Jun 11 03:42:18 <PatrickC> ah nice
Jun 11 03:42:23 <PatrickC> just graduate high school?
Jun 11 03:42:31 <Tibfib> bbiab
Jun 11 03:43:15 <PatrickC> ok
Jun 11 03:43:16 <PatrickC> cya
Jun 11 03:57:37 <Tibfib> hey, my app works better than I expected on device
Jun 11 03:58:03 <Tibfib> pretty quick too
Jun 11 04:12:12 * EricBlade arrives
Jun 11 04:13:48 <invalidopcode-ph> hello EricBlade
Jun 11 04:14:51 <invalidopcode> Tibfib: so you're older than both PatrickC and I
Jun 11 04:15:08 <Tibfib> most are
Jun 11 04:15:27 <invalidopcode> :P
Jun 11 04:15:43 <JunJi> seems like no one is over 20
Jun 11 04:16:22 <EricBlade> :(
Jun 11 04:16:31 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: so I was looking into how to move this code from headless app (which has many limitations) into a service
Jun 11 04:16:40 <invalidopcode> JunJi: so? :P
Jun 11 04:16:53 <EricBlade> so ya'all make me feel old
Jun 11 04:17:55 <invalidopcode> haha its ok EricBlade, we still need mentors like you since we don't know everything (yet)
Jun 11 04:19:45 <JunJi> i thought you guys are just joking, ha
Jun 11 04:20:28 <Tibfib> they're the real deal
Jun 11 04:21:02 <invalidopcode> haha yeah JunJi we were being serious
Jun 11 04:24:00 <EricBlade> well invalidopcode it looks like there's some kind of 'net' module in node.js ..
Jun 11 04:24:38 <EricBlade> hmm.
Jun 11 04:24:45 <EricBlade> and a 'tls' module
Jun 11 04:24:53 <EricBlade> looks like the 'tls' module does the connection
Jun 11 04:25:09 <invalidopcode> but where in the service would I put that connection code?
Jun 11 04:25:43 <invalidopcode> have you open sourced synirc?
Jun 11 04:25:55 <EricBlade> no, but you're welcome to look at it
Jun 11 04:26:09 <invalidopcode> could I please? because that could be a big help
Jun 11 04:27:05 <EricBlade> i don't know if doing that via service is a particularly good idea, though, just because you can do it from an app
Jun 11 04:27:56 <invalidopcode> the reason I want to get it into a service is because I'm trying to get rid of the "Listening for Notification" dashboard that has to remain open
Jun 11 04:28:19 <Tibfib> I don't think you can.
Jun 11 04:28:57 <EricBlade> well, thing is, it doesn't really -have- to remain open
Jun 11 04:29:07 <acidhax> well then
Jun 11 04:29:17 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: ? I'm listening
Jun 11 04:29:20 <acidhax> I finally managed to successfully cross compile nodejs for webos
Jun 11 04:29:29 <invalidopcode> acidhax: yay!
Jun 11 04:29:34 <EricBlade> the problem is, that as soon as you do open a window, then if it closes, your app closes
Jun 11 04:29:42 <acidhax> invalidopcode, I know!! excited!
Jun 11 04:29:42 <invalidopcode> yeah
Jun 11 04:29:54 <invalidopcode> acidhax: what nodejs version?
Jun 11 04:29:54 <EricBlade> but if you never open a window from the app, then ..
Jun 11 04:29:59 <acidhax> 0.6.19
Jun 11 04:30:19 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: if you don't create some type of window (dashboard, etc) it will timeout and close on its own
Jun 11 04:30:27 <invalidopcode> acidhax: cool
Jun 11 04:30:34 <acidhax> root@DrSkippedFirstuseHPPre:/var/home/root# ./node --version :: v0.6.19
Jun 11 04:30:41 <acidhax> booyah
Jun 11 04:31:14 <EricBlade> i don't think so, i've opened a windowless app and never opened a window, and it ran for quite some time
Jun 11 04:31:18 <acidhax> now I'm going to work on a type of "nvm" for precompiled binaries
Jun 11 04:31:48 <EricBlade> acidhax: can you replace the existing node with it?h ehe
Jun 11 04:32:36 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: because that's what Tibfib was telling me and I noticed it myself because I tried it and ever couple minutes the window would close (the cleanup function got called)
Jun 11 04:34:40 <acidhax> EricBlade, not quite :P
Jun 11 04:35:52 <invalidopcode> acidhax: do you have a twitter?
Jun 11 04:36:11 <JunJi> well, I just compiled luna service (for luna bus) on my ubuntu but seems like there isn't no reference explaining any of its API in detail. what would you recommend me if I have to create a simple test pdk app to just ensure luna-bus works?
Jun 11 04:36:45 <EricBlade> i don't really know if you can do anything with that
Jun 11 04:37:05 <acidhax> invalidopcode, yep, matbeeDOTcom
Jun 11 04:37:43 <invalidopcode> acidhax: awesome
Jun 11 04:38:26 <acidhax> following you back
Jun 11 04:38:45 <invalidopcode> cool haha
Jun 11 04:39:41 <acidhax> Now I need to find out how to ipk package it up
Jun 11 04:39:55 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: only thing that i can think of without maintaining an app window open, though, is doing something sort of like what irc does there, and that's loop a service and an app
Jun 11 04:40:29 <EricBlade> and if you're right that a windowless app that has never opened a window still gets cleaned out, then that's not really that great of an idea either
Jun 11 04:40:52 <EricBlade> although, i guess, your point is that you'll open a window whenever there's a notification
Jun 11 04:41:31 <EricBlade> ideally, you would open your connection in the Service Assistant, which I have not yet figured out how to create
Jun 11 04:42:01 <EricBlade> so when the Service Assistant is created, open a connection with it, and then refer to that with any service commands
Jun 11 04:42:22 <EricBlade> when the connection is opened, launch your nowindow app, which will subscribe to some notification on the service
Jun 11 04:42:36 <EricBlade> have the service pipe back a dummy message every 20 seconds or something
Jun 11 04:42:49 <EricBlade> and whenever the service detects that the app closes, have it re-open the nowindow app
Jun 11 04:43:10 <EricBlade> i hope there's a better way to do this, but so far, no one has told me of anything
Jun 11 04:43:12 <acidhax> anywho, bed time folks
Jun 11 04:43:13 <acidhax> night
Jun 11 04:43:15 <fxspec06> oh man
Jun 11 04:43:19 <EricBlade> gnight acid
Jun 11 04:43:20 <fxspec06> is apple's event today?
Jun 11 04:43:33 <fxspec06> jesus. tech industry dies once again
Jun 11 04:43:41 * fxspec06 goes to bed in preparation
Jun 11 04:44:22 <EricBlade> my gf's oldest daughter had her HS graduation today.  afterwards, she wanted to go to a buffet with the family.  so, we did.  i am still full.
Jun 11 04:45:09 <fxspec06> my niece has been here for the last few days, and she stays for two more weeks. idk how much more i can take. she's so cute though!
Jun 11 04:45:31 <fxspec06> forget getting any work done
Jun 11 04:45:45 <fxspec06> later guys
Jun 11 04:46:11 <invalidopcode> night fxspec06
Jun 11 04:46:40 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: eh.... yeah your way sounds about same way I was thinking for doing it
Jun 11 04:46:49 <invalidopcode> but its certainly not pretty at all
Jun 11 04:47:20 <invalidopcode> I'm considering if a native service would be an option
Jun 11 04:47:57 <EricBlade> of course, the other option is setting a ridiculous timeout on the service
Jun 11 04:48:35 <invalidopcode> haha it specifically says not to do that :P
Jun 11 04:48:52 <invalidopcode> or maybe have the service set an alarm to wake itself up
Jun 11 04:56:42 <EricBlade> i guess if you gave it like a 6 minute timeout, you could run a 5-minute alarm or activity on it
Jun 11 04:57:08 <EricBlade> either way, the whole point is to get a service that never shuts down, which is what they don't really want you doing to begin with
Jun 11 04:57:39 <invalidopcode> yeah true
Jun 11 04:58:10 <invalidopcode> also... alarms work in much smaller intervals than 5 mins... I had a 2 second alarm running for something earlier
Jun 11 04:58:58 <EricBlade> anytime i set them less than 05:00, they run instantly
Jun 11 05:00:33 <invalidopcode> well I had an alarm set so that after someone closed the dashboard it would relaunch itself in 10 seconds and it worked so I set it to 2 seconds and then 1 second and they all seemed to work
Jun 11 05:01:07 <EricBlade> hmm
Jun 11 05:01:10 <EricBlade> good luck with that
Jun 11 05:01:40 <EricBlade> using the alarm the gvoice uses, mine would infinite loop if set at 04:59
Jun 11 05:02:50 <invalidopcode> you can see the code if you look at the second to last commit on the Boxcar client on github
Jun 11 05:02:53 <Tibfib> you want the users to be able to close your app
Jun 11 05:03:08 <invalidopcode> Tibfib: yeah I know... that's why I disabled it
Jun 11 05:03:10 <Tibfib> they'd just get frustrated and uninstall it if it keeps re-opening every time
Jun 11 05:03:18 <Tibfib> gotcha
Jun 11 05:03:30 <invalidopcode> i was just playing with different ideas
Jun 11 05:06:11 <invalidopcode> I might just wait for openwebos and just built a native service (similar to the messaging plugins)
Jun 11 05:06:51 <invalidopcode> or build those activity manager features you were talking about last night
Jun 11 05:24:34 <EricBlade> http://www.html5gamedevs.com/2012/06/10/finger-slayer-chrome-app-store/
Jun 11 05:24:39 <EricBlade> someone could clone that
Jun 11 05:37:27 <rrix> So roku's are pretty nice
Jun 11 06:13:29 <EricBlade> cute.  Can't scroll iframes on TouchPad
Jun 11 06:15:35 <EricBlade> and.. panels break with iframes anyway
Jun 11 06:56:01 <EricBlade> hooray my first patch is approved :)
Jun 11 12:58:56 <EricBlade> lulz, i just ran across one of the earliest screenshots of gvoice .. http://ericbla.de/gva.jpg
Jun 11 13:03:10 <EricBlade> and then one still long before it was ever released .. http://ericbla.de/gva2.jpg
Jun 11 13:04:19 <EricBlade> and then one as the style became quite close to today .. http://ericbla.de/gva3.jpg
Jun 11 14:51:47 <bigbluehat> acidhax: great work, man. would love to read a write-up of it
Jun 11 14:51:57 <bigbluehat> it == newer node.js on webOS
Jun 11 14:56:01 <acidhax> well
Jun 11 14:56:13 <acidhax> its not exactly replacing the existing nodejs yet
Jun 11 14:56:15 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 14:57:55 <acidhax> and I don't even know if my idea will even work in the end
Jun 11 14:58:30 <acidhax> but, I'm honestly only hoping for an "nvm" type system where your app config can specify to use node version x, and it'll download/use that node version
Jun 11 18:06:56 <acidhax> whatup guys
Jun 11 18:07:08 <invalidopcode> goog morning acidhax
Jun 11 18:07:11 <invalidopcode> *good
Jun 11 18:08:46 <invalidopcode> anyone else following the coverage of appls's wwdc?
Jun 11 18:10:03 <invalidopcode> iOS 6 announcement time.. time to see what else they copied from webOS this time
Jun 11 18:12:55 <acidhax> its boring
Jun 11 18:13:21 <acidhax> siri blah blah blah
Jun 11 18:13:25 <acidhax> macbooks blah blah blah
Jun 11 18:13:28 <invalidopcode> yeah haha
Jun 11 18:13:42 <acidhax> I dont know what I want to see, but i want something to see something cool
Jun 11 18:13:44 <acidhax> ...
Jun 11 18:13:44 <invalidopcode> "we added voice diction!" .... wait, didn't windows XP have that?
Jun 11 18:13:48 <acidhax> gg typing
Jun 11 18:13:54 <acidhax> I dont know what I want to see, but i want to see something cool*
Jun 11 18:14:06 <invalidopcode> hahaha
Jun 11 18:15:45 <acidhax> okay thats kind of cool, but "how tall is he?" is kind of a useless feature
Jun 11 18:15:56 <invalidopcode> I still don't believe that voice-recognition is ready for mainstream use
Jun 11 18:16:07 <invalidopcode> in the extent that Siri wants to use it
Jun 11 18:17:32 <invalidopcode> are you watching on the engadget page?
Jun 11 18:17:52 <acidhax> yeah
Jun 11 18:18:07 <acidhax> okay now thats a good feature, movie times and whatnot
Jun 11 18:18:14 <acidhax> i'm always opening up flixster
Jun 11 18:18:42 <invalidopcode> yeah
Jun 11 18:20:04 <invalidopcode> yay! more distractions in the car! :P
Jun 11 18:20:18 <acidhax> oooo
Jun 11 18:20:20 <acidhax> actually
Jun 11 18:20:25 <acidhax> thats kind of awesome
Jun 11 18:21:18 <invalidopcode> don't they already have than in many cars?
Jun 11 18:21:26 <invalidopcode> its a bluetooth thing
Jun 11 18:21:31 <acidhax> not integrated into siri though
Jun 11 18:21:39 <acidhax> they do the processing on the deck
Jun 11 18:21:49 <acidhax> this puts the processing on the iphone
Jun 11 18:22:10 <invalidopcode> so it just makes the car a big microphone
Jun 11 18:22:28 <acidhax> I wouldn't say "just"
Jun 11 18:22:37 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:23:15 <acidhax> It's like how cars come with ipod docks now
Jun 11 18:23:21 <acidhax> they'll integrate it even more
Jun 11 18:23:21 <invalidopcode> haha well, it seems like the cars can already do that, its routing the input that would normally be processed on the car and routing it to the phone
Jun 11 18:23:38 <invalidopcode> okay cool, facebook integration....
Jun 11 18:23:44 <acidhax> bleh
Jun 11 18:24:21 <acidhax> this should've been >2 years ago
Jun 11 18:24:22 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:24:38 <acidhax> oh, and liking apps--- thats definitely new
Jun 11 18:24:59 <invalidopcode> they should have had that before.... its really a trivial feature to add
Jun 11 18:25:25 <invalidopcode> facebook contact sync.... where have I heard that? oh yeah its called synergy :)
Jun 11 18:25:27 <acidhax> yeah
Jun 11 18:25:48 <acidhax> synergy is actually really cool once you get technical with it
Jun 11 18:26:25 <invalidopcode> I know, EricBlade and I have been exploring it and its really nice
Jun 11 18:27:31 <invalidopcode> all these phone features already exist in google voice
Jun 11 18:29:13 <acidhax> "Next up is Safari. Safari is the best and most popular web browser on the planet." --- wait---
Jun 11 18:29:18 <invalidopcode> hahahahaha
Jun 11 18:29:33 <invalidopcode> most popular? its not even in the top 3 :P
Jun 11 18:29:42 <acidhax> I'm pretty sure IE tops the charts for the most part
Jun 11 18:29:48 <acidhax> for number of users, anyway
Jun 11 18:30:10 <invalidopcode> good job apple you added tab sync.... chrome  and firefox have had that for at least 2 years now
Jun 11 18:31:08 <invalidopcode> the brower to app push? so they added mime support?
Jun 11 18:31:26 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:31:58 <acidhax> wait, does that mean the phone makes a request to apple's servers every tiem they visit a website?
Jun 11 18:32:09 <acidhax> :-/
Jun 11 18:32:30 <acidhax> or do you embed a file on the server
Jun 11 18:32:41 <invalidopcode> I don't know...
Jun 11 18:32:54 <acidhax> gah
Jun 11 18:33:01 <acidhax> info gathering
Jun 11 18:33:03 <invalidopcode> VIP = Very Ignorant People? :P
Jun 11 18:35:48 <invalidopcode> soo if you can store your passes on an app one your iphone, what's to stop malicious people from spoofing tickets?
Jun 11 18:36:26 <invalidopcode> HOLD ON! Apple is using QR code??? wasn't that one of Android's key things?
Jun 11 18:36:54 <acidhax> yeah but you can guarantee the iphone wont be a horrible screen and scanners can read from it
Jun 11 18:36:58 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:37:04 <acidhax> unline android devices
Jun 11 18:37:07 <acidhax> unlike
Jun 11 18:37:13 <invalidopcode> haha
Jun 11 18:38:01 <invalidopcode> now people are going to have to be extra careful that their phones don't die during long trips haha
Jun 11 18:38:37 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:38:38 <acidhax> yeah
Jun 11 18:40:24 <invalidopcode> woah... its amazing, its fantasic... its a map
Jun 11 18:43:28 <invalidopcode> "This is very, very similar to what Google announced at its own event last week." .... you don't say
Jun 11 18:45:09 <acidhax> its better than ours
Jun 11 18:45:10 <acidhax> rofl
Jun 11 18:45:24 <invalidopcode> haha
Jun 11 18:45:45 <acidhax> my wp7 mango map is pretty good
Jun 11 18:45:49 <acidhax> not vector, but still good
Jun 11 18:45:59 <acidhax> bing results seriously suck, though.
Jun 11 18:46:07 <invalidopcode> I hear that the nokia drive for wp7 is really really good
Jun 11 18:46:41 <acidhax> i havent tried that yet
Jun 11 18:47:36 <invalidopcode> ah cool
Jun 11 18:48:08 <invalidopcode> this seriously looks like google earth with turn-by-turn navigation to me
Jun 11 18:49:26 <acidhax> well, it is
Jun 11 18:49:27 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:50:32 <invalidopcode> the funny part is that if apple and google worked together they could probably build the slickest maps app we've every seen
Jun 11 18:52:48 <invalidopcode> i might be wrong, but they keep saying "200 new features" i remember watching the iOS 4 anouncements and it was like "over 500 new features"
Jun 11 18:53:34 <invalidopcode> and I don't remember them doing so much platform-bashing in the past
Jun 11 18:53:54 <acidhax> its not over, is it?
Jun 11 18:54:09 <invalidopcode> i think it is
Jun 11 18:54:14 <acidhax> oh
Jun 11 18:54:16 <invalidopcode> at least the keynote part
Jun 11 18:54:18 <acidhax> I didn't see 400 features
Jun 11 18:54:29 <acidhax> 380 bug fixes
Jun 11 18:54:30 <invalidopcode> me neither
Jun 11 18:54:31 <acidhax> 10 features
Jun 11 18:54:39 <invalidopcode> hahahah i was just about to say the same thing
Jun 11 18:54:39 <acidhax> 10 lies
Jun 11 18:54:50 <invalidopcode> 10 "surprises" :P
Jun 11 18:55:20 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 18:55:24 <acidhax> 10 more bugs
Jun 11 18:55:37 <invalidopcode> no.. their "beta" feautures
Jun 11 18:55:51 <invalidopcode> *they're
Jun 11 19:00:44 <invalidopcode> well that was fun..
Jun 11 19:01:47 <invalidopcode> hahahah John Kneeland (talking about the new macbook): The laptop for the 1% of the rest of us
Jun 11 19:02:54 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 19:44:32 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: Safari counts as "most popular web browser" because nearly all mobile devices identify as it
Jun 11 19:45:01 <invalidopcode> hey look who's been reading the backlog
Jun 11 19:45:06 <invalidopcode> haha true
Jun 11 19:45:49 <invalidopcode> didn't at one point in time everything identify itself as Mozilla?
Jun 11 19:46:01 <acidhax> and mainly still do?
Jun 11 19:46:07 <EricBlade> everything does, that's why they added a new version string to the browser identification
Jun 11 19:46:58 <EricBlade> practically every browser on earth starts with Mozilla/5.0 to indicate that it's Netscape compatible lol
Jun 11 19:48:08 <invalidopcode> ah hahah okay
Jun 11 19:49:02 <invalidopcode> hey did anyone see this article? it uses wIRC http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/seamlessly-extending-irc-mobile-devices
Jun 11 19:54:13 <acidhax> that's actually funny
Jun 11 20:13:17 <EricBlade> iOS 6 won't be available on iPad 1?
Jun 11 20:14:16 <EricBlade> i bet that new macbook pro display is freakin beautiful.  Too bad it's a Mac.
Jun 11 20:15:15 <acidhax> yeah
Jun 11 20:15:31 <acidhax> and too bad games still won't support mac os
Jun 11 20:15:43 <EricBlade> Dungeon Defenders works on Mac
Jun 11 20:15:49 <acidhax> so unless you're a videographer or a photographer
Jun 11 20:15:52 <acidhax> or...
Jun 11 20:16:37 <acidhax> lol -- so I have npm working on webos --- but the npm repo is a 30mb list
Jun 11 20:16:56 <acidhax> It's not fast, either.
Jun 11 20:16:59 <bigbluehat> acidhax: how are you loading it?
Jun 11 20:17:13 <acidhax> well I just tried an npm search
Jun 11 20:17:18 <bigbluehat> it's CouchDB-backed, so you could (in theory) replicate it to db8
Jun 11 20:17:33 <acidhax> we'd have to modify npm
Jun 11 20:17:36 <bigbluehat> odd...that shouldn't pull the whole 30 mb list
Jun 11 20:17:48 <bigbluehat> npm's already prepped for multiple repositories
Jun 11 20:17:57 <bigbluehat> so you can "fork" on that's webOS specific
Jun 11 20:18:26 <acidhax> root@DrSkippedFirstuseHPPre:/opt/lib/node_modules/npm/bin# node-v0.6.19 npm-cli.js search irc :::: npm WARN Building the local index for the first time, please be patient ::::: npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/-/all
Jun 11 20:18:39 <acidhax> 24957736 2012-06-11 16:13 all
Jun 11 20:18:57 <acidhax> lol the list is too big for the pre 2's memory
Jun 11 20:19:35 <bigbluehat> ah, didn't realized it kept a local list...
Jun 11 20:19:37 <bigbluehat> hrm
Jun 11 20:19:46 <bigbluehat> maybe you can shut off caching from the command line?
Jun 11 20:19:58 <bigbluehat> (caution: obvious speed consequences)
Jun 11 20:21:08 <acidhax> yeah
Jun 11 20:21:18 <acidhax> It'd be better to have a webservice
Jun 11 20:27:13 <acidhax> OR not use npm at all
Jun 11 20:33:19 <acidhax> actually its still usable
Jun 11 20:33:22 <acidhax> just dont do a search
Jun 11 20:34:39 <EricBlade> so, i'm curious what your overall plan is for this, acidhax
Jun 11 20:36:09 <invalidopcode> world domination
Jun 11 20:39:03 <acidhax> overall plan? easy. Selectable node.js versions for a service.
Jun 11 20:39:10 <EricBlade> so, just to illustrate how supremely bad I am at styling things, I finally put some content on my main webpage, using Enyo .. http://ericbla.de/
Jun 11 20:39:13 <acidhax> without breaking the system version..
Jun 11 20:39:28 <acidhax> oh man
Jun 11 20:39:31 <acidhax> that's so bad
Jun 11 20:39:40 <acidhax> lol
Jun 11 20:40:01 <acidhax> Why don't you just buy a template?
Jun 11 20:41:38 <acidhax> It'd just be nice to create a service with a node.js version that you're aware of, instead of this ancient webos thing
Jun 11 20:41:39 <acidhax> :P:
Jun 11 20:41:51 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: holy cow... why is it in a little box?
Jun 11 20:42:13 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: it's mobile-app sized :)
Jun 11 20:42:28 <bigbluehat> EricBlade: http://bootswatch.com/ is your friend
Jun 11 20:42:33 <acidhax> that defeats the purpose of enyo then
Jun 11 20:42:34 <acidhax> hehehe
Jun 11 20:42:34 <bigbluehat> free bootstrap templates
Jun 11 20:42:41 <bigbluehat> that are responsive, etc
Jun 11 20:42:45 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: it doesn't really matter what size it is.... its ugly :P
Jun 11 20:43:00 <acidhax> hahaha
Jun 11 20:43:05 <bigbluehat> yeah, man that interior scrollbar must die
Jun 11 20:43:25 <bigbluehat> doesn't Enyo/Onyx do this stuff for you?
Jun 11 20:43:30 <EricBlade> :( i'm not going to show you guys any more works in progress lol
Jun 11 20:43:37 <bigbluehat> like pick a layout and all the magic happens (unicorns, rainbows, etc)
Jun 11 20:43:50 <bigbluehat> EricBlade: consider this constructive criticism + love :)
Jun 11 20:44:09 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: sometimes the best criticism is the honest kind :)
Jun 11 20:45:38 <invalidopcode> okay... windows 8 upgrade time. see ya later guys
Jun 11 20:45:59 <bigbluehat> invalidopcode fades into the ether
Jun 11 20:46:16 <acidhax> haha
Jun 11 20:46:24 <acidhax> you should see the project I'm working on at work
Jun 11 20:46:26 <acidhax> far from pretty
Jun 11 20:46:34 <acidhax> even with bootstrap
Jun 11 20:46:47 <acidhax> it's a bootstrap/knockoutjs hellhole
Jun 11 20:47:31 <EricBlade> bigbluehat: exactly what would you suggest be done about that internal scroll bar
Jun 11 20:47:52 <bigbluehat> acidhax: going that well? :)
Jun 11 20:48:12 <bigbluehat> EricBlade: percentage width, or don't restrict the height (at least)
Jun 11 20:50:03 <bigbluehat> EricBlade: maybe just use one of these? http://enyojs.com/samples/fittable/app-layouts.html
Jun 11 20:50:10 <acidhax> I hate people who check-in broken code.
Jun 11 20:50:19 <bigbluehat> or similar
Jun 11 20:50:26 <bigbluehat> acidhax: is that self referencing? :)
Jun 11 20:50:32 <bigbluehat> pretty sure it happens to everyone
Jun 11 20:50:38 <acidhax> Yeah it does
Jun 11 20:50:43 <acidhax> not me though
Jun 11 20:50:44 <acidhax> <3
Jun 11 20:50:53 <bigbluehat> hehe ;)
Jun 11 20:50:56 <bigbluehat> lucky! :D
Jun 11 20:51:12 <acidhax> work work work, update, FSDFSDS I CANT DO ANYTHING TIL ITS DONE.. wait wait wait.. fixed.
Jun 11 20:51:37 <acidhax> I'm too busy to rollback
Jun 11 20:51:47 <acidhax> we're on TFS, not git, else I'd be happy.
Jun 11 20:51:57 <bigbluehat> yeah...for realz >_<
Jun 11 20:52:07 <bigbluehat> we use Gerrit (by Google)
Jun 11 20:52:09 <bigbluehat> + github
Jun 11 20:52:16 <acidhax> oh yeah? nice
Jun 11 20:52:17 * bigbluehat would prefer *just* github
Jun 11 20:52:19 <bigbluehat> but ah well
Jun 11 20:52:21 <acidhax> well yeah
Jun 11 20:52:23 <Tibfib> soo, I don't know bash very well.. anyone know? I am executing a bash file from a few folders up, but I want the file paths in the bash file to be relative to the bash file, NOT from where I execute it from.
Jun 11 20:52:44 <acidhax> hmm
Jun 11 20:52:50 <Tibfib> I run this from a few folders up "zip -r App.zip ../src/build ../src/index.html ../src/assets"
Jun 11 20:53:01 <Tibfib> (from inside a .sh file)
Jun 11 20:53:15 <acidhax> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/can-a-bash-script-tell-what-directory-its-stored-in
Jun 11 20:53:17 <Tibfib> but those locations don't exist from where I execute the file
Jun 11 20:53:40 <acidhax> there's your answer in there :)
Jun 11 20:54:06 <Tibfib> that looks like it is!
Jun 11 20:56:36 <acidhax> anyone know what service executes the "run-js-service" script?
Jun 11 21:50:24 <PatrickC> whats everyone up to?
Jun 11 21:50:53 <EricBlade> 5'10
Jun 11 21:51:41 <halfhalo>  /rimshot
Jun 11 21:53:07 <cwayne> just bein a guy, doin' guy things
Jun 11 21:53:30 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 11 21:54:06 * PatrickC is taller then EricBlade :)
Jun 11 21:54:22 <cwayne> than
Jun 11 21:54:50 <PatrickC> heh.. i never did lik englesh
Jun 11 21:57:25 <halfhalo> I will get on a plane and slap you if you keep that up.
Jun 11 21:58:18 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 11 21:58:50 <summatusmentis> and it would be completely deserved
Jun 11 22:04:55 <PatrickC> how many of u guys here listen to podcasts?
Jun 11 22:06:36 * halfhalo twitches
Jun 11 22:07:25 <PatrickC> i just have a simple question about them :P
Jun 11 22:07:25 <EricBlade> if i could figure out how the "podcast" function in subsonic works i might
Jun 11 22:07:35 <PatrickC> how important is the intro/outro to you?
Jun 11 22:08:09 <summatusmentis> I hate those, when I hear them
Jun 11 22:08:35 <PatrickC> so when you listen to a podcast, you would prefer to just hear the people talk? and not the intro/outro?
Jun 11 23:23:33 <Tibfib> a small intro is fine
Jun 11 23:23:41 <Tibfib> but the 30 second ones are ridiculous
Jun 12 02:18:32 <EricBlade> So, my news feed app just came up with "Coroner rules dingo to blame for Astralian baby's death - CNN" .. is this some kind of joke?
Jun 12 02:49:04 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 12 02:53:34 <PatrickC> hows it goin EricBlade?
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