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Jun 13 03:24:45 <b-man`> hello guys
Jun 13 03:26:00 <b-man`> I've been working on porting the Magenta project (Linux/Darwin hybrid kernel - http://crna.cc/) to the HP TouchPad, and I'm having trouble debugging output
Jun 13 03:26:18 <b-man`> Is there any way to gain access to the device's serial console?
Jun 13 03:29:40 <EricBlade> b-man`: you probably want #webos-internals
Jun 13 03:29:52 <b-man`> ok, thanks
Jun 13 03:30:34 <EricBlade> well my development is put on hold for a little while, thanks to whatsapp enforcing a 60minute hold time before i can attempt to run another authorization on my account, so i can tell if i completely destroyed my account or not
Jun 13 03:36:48 <invalidopcode> :P
Jun 13 04:08:18 <PatrickC> EricBlade: u rang?
Jun 13 04:09:29 <PatrickC> EricBlade: is that a whatsapp webOS app i hear is in the making? :)
Jun 13 04:35:27 <PatrickC> EricBlade: ill talk to u tomorrow. im off to bed
Jun 13 04:35:38 <PatrickC> but i would love to help u out with the app testing if u need it :)
Jun 13 05:09:58 <EricBlade> who said anything abou whatsapp?
Jun 13 05:11:25 <rrix> whatsupp everyone?
Jun 13 05:11:39 <EricBlade> hmm. it told me 60 minutes before i could re-register my account, but the timer shows 35 more minutes, and the first time i tried, it showed 142 more minutes
Jun 13 05:48:12 <EricBlade> well the good news is, after screwing up my freshly created account by trying to connect it to my PlayBook, I was able to unscrew it by re-registering it using my own code
Jun 13 07:00:24 <EricBlade> i think i'm going to need to find a disgustingly cheap android phone for this project
Jun 13 10:06:18 <EricBlade> if i ever willingly install a linux system with a "Unity" GUI, to my any of my own personal computers, ever again, I hereby give every single one of you permission to beat me.
Jun 13 10:06:58 <EricBlade> this is the worst piece of **** i've seen since windows 2.0
Jun 13 13:04:30 <Guest31932> quit
Jun 13 13:15:23 <PatrickC> EricBlade: use Cinnamon.. its the best
Jun 13 13:15:25 <PatrickC> or Gnome Shell
Jun 13 13:18:11 <RagingMind> I actually like gnome shell quite a bit
Jun 13 13:18:21 <PatrickC_Away> RagingMind: im using Gnome Shell right now
Jun 13 13:18:24 <PatrickC_Away> reminds me a lot of Mine
Jun 13 13:18:28 <PatrickC_Away> which is why i use it :)
Jun 13 13:18:38 <RagingMind> I need a lot of extensions though
Jun 13 13:18:59 <PatrickC_Away> extensions? didn't know it had those :P
Jun 13 16:09:45 <azulez> Grr..  What's up with this limitation of having only one skype account registered on the pre3 at a time? :[
Jun 13 16:10:03 <azulez> At least video calling worked.. that was neat.
Jun 13 16:21:02 <dwc-> probably a limitation of the skype binaries
Jun 13 16:22:44 <azulez> is video supported in any of the other apps?  I think I remember YIM implementing it on PC.
Jun 13 17:08:49 <dwc-> apps?
Jun 13 17:50:51 <azulez> Yeah, just wondering what else besides skype is out there in terms of video communication/conferencing software
Jun 13 18:05:24 <pc-world> azulez: I'd guess... nothing
Jun 13 18:12:17 <acidhax> holy balls, today hasnt been fun
Jun 13 18:15:50 <PatrickC> pc-world!
Jun 13 18:16:20 <pc-world> hey PatrickC
Jun 13 18:16:57 <PatrickC> hows it goin pc-world?
Jun 13 18:17:37 <pc-world> fine, you?
Jun 13 18:17:59 <PatrickC> doin good
Jun 13 18:18:13 <PatrickC> need to look into a google API for something i grew fond of on Android and want on webOS :P
Jun 13 18:18:26 <bigbluehat> acidhax: have you tried ooVoo?
Jun 13 18:18:28 <bigbluehat> http://www.oovoo.com/
Jun 13 18:19:46 <pc-world> PatrickC: what exactly?
Jun 13 18:20:00 <PatrickC> pc-world: voice recognition for texting and typing
Jun 13 18:20:39 <pc-world> PatrickC: ahh... so basically selling Google your voice :P
Jun 13 18:20:49 <PatrickC> haha
Jun 13 18:20:51 <PatrickC> kinda :P
Jun 13 18:21:01 <PatrickC> i find myself using more and more stuff from google as time goes on
Jun 13 18:21:10 <PatrickC> i told myself i would never have an android phone, yet i love the nexus
Jun 13 18:21:21 <PatrickC> i told myself i would never use google drive, but i use it almost every day now :)
Jun 13 18:22:53 <EricBlade> it's insiduous
Jun 13 18:23:54 <PatrickC> anyone in here a mac user?
Jun 13 18:24:11 <PatrickC> got some questions about macs.. (will take it to PM as to not flood the channel :) )
Jun 13 18:26:36 <EricBlade> i have a mac on my desk.  i only use it to compile stuff, though, i doubt i could answer anything
Jun 13 18:27:06 <PatrickC> well, have u ever used iWork/Office on it?
Jun 13 18:27:17 <PatrickC> wondering if iWork is a good enough substitution
Jun 13 18:27:18 <EricBlade> all i use is terminal
Jun 13 18:27:30 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 13 18:27:39 <PatrickC> that's an expensive terminal :P
Jun 13 18:27:58 <pc-world> EricBlade: to compile things for OS X?
Jun 13 18:28:28 <EricBlade> my former contracting gig sent it to me for building their game for iOS .. and i'm not giving it back until they pay anything they owe me. :)
Jun 13 18:29:02 <PatrickC> haha
Jun 13 18:29:30 <PatrickC> ill be buying the new 13" MBP soon
Jun 13 18:34:02 <acidhax> bleh
Jun 13 18:34:07 <acidhax> I walk in
Jun 13 18:34:47 <acidhax> BY THE WAY WE HAVE A DEMO IN AN HOUR
Jun 13 18:34:52 <acidhax> AND YOUR CODE HASNT BEEN WORKING SINCE MONDAY
Jun 13 18:34:53 <acidhax> LOL
Jun 13 18:35:02 <bigbluehat> :)
Jun 13 18:35:03 <bigbluehat> love it
Jun 13 18:35:20 <PatrickC> lol
Jun 13 18:51:30 <acidhax> hate it
Jun 13 19:08:26 * PatrickC_Away does happy dance
Jun 13 19:08:40 <acidhax> no dancing
Jun 13 19:09:31 <PatrickC> but.. but.. but... my Evo LTE just arrived!
Jun 13 19:10:44 <acidhax> poor you
Jun 13 19:10:51 <acidhax> LTE is awesome
Jun 13 19:10:58 <acidhax> android left me wanting
Jun 13 19:11:16 <acidhax> but streaming songs on lte is amazing
Jun 13 19:11:20 <halfhalo> Heh.. LTE phone with no LTE service...
Jun 13 19:12:37 <PatrickC> halfhalo: meh.. the device is still amazing
Jun 13 19:12:52 <PatrickC> ive had the GNex on Sprint for the past 3 weeks (sending it back soon) and i loved every second of it
Jun 13 19:13:30 <EricBlade> acidhax: emergency coding costs way more right
Jun 13 19:14:30 <acidhax> I'm salary
Jun 13 19:14:34 <acidhax> no such thing :P
Jun 13 19:14:47 <acidhax> my job is to be there in case of an emergency
Jun 13 19:15:19 <EricBlade> ah. so you're the guy who knows which screw to use the screwdriver on when things get really screwed.
Jun 13 19:16:08 <acidhax> haha only in this case
Jun 13 19:49:17 <acidhax> I don't want to do any more work
Jun 13 19:49:28 <pc-world> acidhax: then stop doing it
Jun 13 20:00:10 <acidhax> done
Jun 13 20:00:13 <acidhax> haha
Jun 13 20:19:55 <acidhax> I had the weirdest bug. In our Windows desktop client I have a web browser control display some web applications that I wrote. The problem was that you could only load ONE of the applications and the other would just not load. Didn't matter, load Item A and B wouldn't load. Load item B and item A wouldn't load.
Jun 13 20:19:59 <acidhax> It was ridiculous.
Jun 13 20:20:15 * halfhalo blames the dom
Jun 13 20:20:17 <acidhax> And it boiled down to me accidentally using sessionStorage instead of localStorage for certain credentials. frofl
Jun 13 20:20:28 <acidhax> it was hours of chasing around and modifying my code
Jun 13 20:47:03 <Tibfib_> those are the worst
Jun 13 22:54:39 <Tibfib_> noooo delicious. why would you not use standard response statuses
Jun 13 22:54:48 <Tibfib_> it returns 200 for EVERYTHING
Jun 13 22:55:02 <dwc-> because 200s are tasty?
Jun 13 22:55:19 <fxspec06> me gusta 200
Jun 14 00:21:31 <LarrySteeze> Tibfib_: how goes the good fight?
Jun 14 00:21:41 <LarrySteeze> Oh, and just so you know, PatrickC is crazy.
Jun 14 00:28:51 <Guest70060> LarrySteeze, I couldve told you that
Jun 14 00:29:16 <LarrySteeze> who is this guest that speaks?
Jun 14 01:59:49 <Tibfib_> LarrySteeze: I had to move on when I posted that
Jun 14 01:59:52 <Tibfib_> now I'm back at it
Jun 14 02:01:37 <LarrySteeze> TibFib_: MIT?
Jun 14 02:01:42 <Tibfib_> oh
Jun 14 02:01:43 <Tibfib_> that
Jun 14 02:01:58 <Tibfib_> LarrySteeze: got rejected on regular decision day
Jun 14 02:02:04 <LarrySteeze> what?
Jun 14 02:02:18 <LarrySteeze> that's crap
Jun 14 02:02:41 <LarrySteeze> I'm sorry to hear that man
Jun 14 02:02:45 <Tibfib_> hah, thanks for that.
Jun 14 02:02:58 <Tibfib_> I'm over it now, so it's not a big deal
Jun 14 02:03:10 <LarrySteeze> I thought you were a shoe in to be hoenst
Jun 14 02:03:12 <LarrySteeze> *honest
Jun 14 02:03:14 <Tibfib_> I think I just needed a stronger interview
Jun 14 02:03:28 <LarrySteeze> did you talk about spaz?
Jun 14 02:03:35 <Tibfib_> no. not at all.
Jun 14 02:03:51 <Tibfib_> The interviewer didn't ask great questions. and I don't try to bring that stuff up
Jun 14 02:04:09 <Tibfib_> he kept asking unrelated questions and I didn't talk much about my development
Jun 14 02:04:35 <LarrySteeze> I would have absolutely talked about it...in your application essay
Jun 14 02:04:38 <Tibfib_> not sure why I said that
Jun 14 02:04:49 <Tibfib_> My essays were solid. Thye talked about that stuff
Jun 14 02:04:58 <LarrySteeze> that's what I mean
Jun 14 02:05:08 <LarrySteeze> anything in your essay should have been brought up in the interview
Jun 14 02:05:25 <LarrySteeze> if you talk about dev work in the essay, it should be brought up
Jun 14 02:05:53 <LarrySteeze> regardless, I feel semi-responsible. I should have coached you more
Jun 14 02:06:00 <Tibfib_> Yeah.. like I said. I didn't interview well
Jun 14 02:06:08 <Tibfib_> oh geez, don't. not your fault at all
Jun 14 02:06:22 <LarrySteeze> did you decide where you're going to go?
Jun 14 02:06:23 <Tibfib_> it just wasn't meant to be
Jun 14 02:06:30 <Tibfib_> Yep, BYU
Jun 14 02:06:45 <Tibfib_> Which unfortunately doesn't have a great CS program… but there are other reasons.
Jun 14 02:06:52 <LarrySteeze> TibFib_: To be honest, I was hoping to have coding sessions here in boston :P
Jun 14 02:07:10 <Tibfib_> haha sorry to disappoint you
Jun 14 02:07:12 <LarrySteeze> BYU is a good school
Jun 14 02:07:18 <LarrySteeze> play ball
Jun 14 02:08:18 <Tibfib_> heh
Jun 14 02:09:10 <LarrySteeze> no really
Jun 14 02:09:26 <LarrySteeze> play a sport. it's a good school and has decent programs that support your scholastics
Jun 14 02:09:52 <Tibfib_> I play ultimate… and unfortunately there's no school sponsored team
Jun 14 02:10:57 <LarrySteeze> that's probably correct
Jun 14 02:11:05 <LarrySteeze> though I bet there is a league
Jun 14 02:11:23 <Tibfib_> there's intermurals if that's what you mean
Jun 14 02:11:45 <Tibfib_> there's a team that goes to all the tournaments by other schools, they're just officially unofficial
Jun 14 02:12:31 <LarrySteeze> that is
Jun 14 02:12:37 <LarrySteeze> heh
Jun 14 02:12:43 <LarrySteeze> check out broomball
Jun 14 02:12:48 <LarrySteeze> that was my defacto sport
Jun 14 02:13:00 <LarrySteeze> and if there was a decent league around here, I'd absolutely be playing it
Jun 14 02:20:55 <Tibfib_> yikes, delicious also uses get requests
Jun 14 02:28:06 <fxspec06> sorry, Tibfib_. =\
Jun 14 02:28:58 <Tibfib_> I was sooo happy with them using http-auth…. and then they screwed it up
Jun 14 02:29:36 <fxspec06> you're too good for them anyway
Jun 14 02:30:03 <fxspec06> you don't need them. one day you'll be president of your own MIT, and they'll regret rejecting you
Jun 14 02:30:14 <Tibfib_> that's the plan anyway
Jun 14 02:30:33 <fxspec06> and tey'll beg you for your money, and you'll say "NO. YOU REJECTED ME. MAKE ME SANDWICH NOW!"
Jun 14 02:30:45 <fxspec06> the end
Jun 14 02:30:51 <Tibfib_> that's the last step of the plan
Jun 14 02:31:42 <Tibfib_> AND THEIR API IS XMLLLLL
Jun 14 02:31:46 <Tibfib_> THE HORROR THE HORROR
Jun 14 02:32:33 <Tibfib_> okay, they good news is, they don't use 200 for everything, they just use get and not post
Jun 14 02:32:39 <Tibfib_> s/they/the/
Jun 14 02:33:15 <fxspec06> BYU's a good school
Jun 14 02:34:12 <Tibfib_> yeah, it is. Unfortunately they don't have a great CS program
Jun 14 02:34:29 <Tibfib_> buttttt, I can do stuff outside to make my degree from them great
Jun 14 02:41:25 <Tibfib_> What services do you save your links to?
Jun 14 02:41:45 <Tibfib_> I've got Instapaper, Pocket, Readability, Delicious...
Jun 14 02:49:18 <summatusmentis> I was unaware BYU had such a reputation
Jun 14 02:49:33 <summatusmentis> this is Brigham Young University right?
Jun 14 02:49:50 <summatusmentis> that sounds more condescending than I mean
Jun 14 02:50:29 <Tibfib_> yep
Jun 14 02:50:51 <summatusmentis> interesting
Jun 14 02:51:07 <summatusmentis> I've never really looked into it, but I didn't realize it was that well known/respected
Jun 14 02:51:39 <summatusmentis> again, more condescending than I mean, but honestly, I was just unaware
Jun 14 02:51:45 <Tibfib_> sure
Jun 14 02:52:04 <Tibfib_> most people I've talked to have told me the same thing. "Oh, that's a good school"
Jun 14 02:52:16 <summatusmentis> then it probably is, and I'm just dense :)
Jun 14 02:52:46 <Tibfib_> haha, or just haven't been exposed to info
Jun 14 02:53:02 <LarrySteeze> I'll be up-front with you
Jun 14 02:53:03 <Tibfib_> now you have  :)
Jun 14 02:53:36 <LarrySteeze> I think half the people have probably said "it's a good school" because all they've heard about it is that it's a mormon school, and they just don't want to say that's all they've heard about it
Jun 14 02:53:42 <LarrySteeze> but it really is a good school
Jun 14 02:54:15 <summatusmentis> I knew it was a mormon school, and I know that that's a reason that a number of people go there
Jun 14 02:54:15 <Tibfib_> yeah, I can believe that
Jun 14 02:55:15 <summatusmentis> I guess now that I think about it, there are a number of textbooks that come out of there
Jun 14 02:55:36 <LarrySteeze> it's a good school
Jun 14 02:55:52 <LarrySteeze> they also do a lot of correspondance courses for high school students
Jun 14 02:56:08 <LarrySteeze> I know because I took a couple in order to graduate early
Jun 14 02:56:10 <summatusmentis> tah, movei time
Jun 14 02:56:28 <Tibfib_> LarrySteeze: nice
Jun 14 02:57:05 <LarrySteeze> adios summatusmentis
Jun 14 02:58:28 <Tibfib_> cya summatusmentis
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