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Jun 14 03:36:03 <Tibfib> there seems to be some sort of caching issue on my computer
Jun 14 03:36:11 <Tibfib> can't figure it out
Jun 14 03:36:50 <Tibfib> palm-run is installing hte previous code
Jun 14 03:43:49 <Tibfib> oh well
Jun 14 03:43:51 <Tibfib> night everyone
Jun 14 04:50:14 <PatrickC> invalidopcode!
Jun 14 04:50:38 <invalidopcode> ahhh its PatrickC! my eyes my eyes!
Jun 14 06:04:56 <EricBlade> anyone here ever build isis?
Jun 14 06:51:59 <d0ax> Hello I`m trying to open protocol file:// with safari without CORS
Jun 14 06:52:04 <d0ax> how to do that?
Jun 14 06:52:31 <d0ax> I`m using win7
Jun 14 06:52:48 <d0ax>  "Origin file:// is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin"
Jun 14 07:06:53 <EricBlade> d0ax: not really relevant here, this is a webos channel
Jun 14 07:28:48 <EricBlade> anyone know if upgrading to the latest virtualbox will break my webos emulators?
Jun 14 08:56:45 <EricBlade> sugardave! sup
Jun 14 14:40:27 <lemonade`> is there some way to get a pixi to access the internet through usb or bluetooth?
Jun 14 14:42:17 <RagingMind> lemonade`, not from the gui
Jun 14 14:45:37 <lemonade`> how about with developer tools?
Jun 14 14:46:09 <lemonade`> I'm working with an unactivated phone, that's why I ask
Jun 14 15:27:52 <RagingMind> lemonade`, even unactivated you can use wifi.  and the only thing from the developer tools you'd need is novaterm to get a command line.  after that it requires a decent knowledge standard linux network tools
Jun 14 15:28:17 <RagingMind> *and the only thing you'd need for usb net is...
Jun 14 15:29:00 <lemonade`> pixi doesn't have wifi, that's pixi plus
Jun 14 15:29:27 <RagingMind> oh yeah... I always forget about the regular pixi
Jun 14 15:31:25 <RagingMind> there are ways to enable usbnet and from there you'd just have to setup your computer and pixi to route things the right way
Jun 14 15:32:05 <RagingMind> I recall people in talking about it in the early days, but I've never tried it
Jun 14 15:32:25 <lemonade`> would this involve rebuilding the kernel or just fiddling with options 'n  stuff?
Jun 14 15:33:29 <RagingMind> shouldn't have to rebuild the kernel.  the usbnet stuff is included
Jun 14 15:33:51 <lemonade`> ah. ok
Jun 14 15:33:54 <RagingMind> just be sure to install a terminal onto your pixi first, just in case something goes fubar
Jun 14 15:34:48 <lemonade`> how would I be able to get a package without it having net connectivity?
Jun 14 15:35:44 <RagingMind> the developer tools on your computer can install things once the pixi is in dev mode
Jun 14 15:36:48 <lemonade`> right, but how would I get the package in the first place? they're all accessed through webos apps like the app catalog and preware, right?
Jun 14 15:37:32 <RagingMind> ... on your computer
Jun 14 15:37:55 <RagingMind> with the developer tools or webos quick install
Jun 14 15:38:26 <lemonade`> the developer tools comes with a terminal app?
Jun 14 15:39:02 <Lazar_Dobrescu> lemonade`: from your computer use webosquickinstall which has access to a bunch of feeds
Jun 14 15:40:18 <lemonade`> Lazar_Dobrescu: where is that located?
Jun 14 15:40:36 <RagingMind> lemonade`, google?
Jun 14 15:40:38 <Lazar_Dobrescu> search it in google.. I usually get it from forums
Jun 14 15:43:14 <lemonade`> oh I thought you guys said it was in the developer tools
Jun 14 15:44:36 <RagingMind> guess I wasn't exactly clear
Jun 14 15:45:44 <RagingMind> the developer tools provide 2 things that you'd want.  novaterm which gives you a terminal on the pixi over usb (but that breaks when you enable usbnet) and palm-install which you can use to install package files that you've downloaded
Jun 14 15:46:43 <RagingMind> I suggest using quick install (which is not part of the dev tools) to install a terminal on your pixi before fiddling with too much.  or you can download the ipk and use palm-install
Jun 14 15:48:20 <lemonade`> I'm comfortable with palm-install. yeah, I was just wondering why I'd use another dedicated install program when there's already palm-install
Jun 14 15:49:28 <RagingMind> because quick install will find the ipks for you *shrugs*
Jun 14 15:51:35 <lemonade`> ah
Jun 14 16:06:25 <madnificent> you should all be soooo jealous to my pc.  it swaps like master, continuously using my disk.
Jun 14 16:06:33 * madnificent has a very trained computer
Jun 14 16:07:40 <fxspec06> madnificent: you needa tell me how to raid my ssd
Jun 14 16:07:43 <fxspec06> but not right onw
Jun 14 16:07:45 <fxspec06> now*
Jun 14 16:08:07 <madnificent> fxspec06: i couldn't accept your code btw.  but i'd like to try to give you one for tasks@hand some day
Jun 14 16:08:08 <fxspec06> i got another tb hdd by dumb luck, so i have the space so mirror it :P
Jun 14 16:08:20 <madnificent> if you're running linux, it's through mdadmin, which is ince :)
Jun 14 16:08:22 <madnificent> nice
Jun 14 16:08:28 <Tibfib_> I think I have a 2 tb hdd
Jun 14 16:08:31 <fxspec06> yeah i saw that. sorry i been preoccupied by some lil' girl
Jun 14 16:08:40 <Tibfib_> I think I have used it once
Jun 14 16:08:46 <madnificent> fxspec06: that doesn't sound 'right'
Jun 14 16:08:48 <Tibfib> when swapping to my new computer
Jun 14 16:08:49 <fxspec06> i have 2 x 1tb's
Jun 14 16:09:03 <fxspec06> lol, my niece =P. she came from KS.
Jun 14 16:09:12 <madnificent> well, enjoy!
Jun 14 16:09:23 <fxspec06> we got her for another week. this weekend will be fun, six flags + boston
Jun 14 16:09:26 <madnificent> Tibfib: i don't have the time to upgrade anymore :/
Jun 14 16:09:40 <madnificent> fxspec06: how old is she?
Jun 14 16:09:47 <fxspec06> she's 10
Jun 14 16:09:58 <fxspec06> she aint a big pain either. surprisingly
Jun 14 16:09:59 <madnificent> guess it'll be a blast for her :D
Jun 14 16:12:56 <fxspec06> diskpart clean all
Jun 14 16:17:37 <Tibfib> fxspec06: hey, I'm from kansas
Jun 14 17:32:17 <Tibfib> I would be hopeless at regexp without rubular
Jun 14 17:36:15 <summatusmentis> regex are hard
Jun 14 17:36:55 <fxspec06> easy
Jun 14 17:37:16 <fxspec06> lol, jk. yeah they're hard
Jun 14 17:38:25 <Tibfib> rubular makes it so I can create them. It saves lives
Jun 14 17:47:13 <lemonade`> RagingMind: is there any reason to use novaterm instead of ssh?
Jun 14 17:55:35 <RagingMind> depends on how you want to connect
Jun 14 18:02:02 <lemonade`> what do you mean?
Jun 14 19:04:17 <gandhijee_> hello, do i need to do anything special to be able to chroot on my touchpad?
Jun 14 19:04:50 <gandhijee_> i tried to chroot in to a debian env that i have on the device, but it just sits there.
Jun 14 19:11:05 <RagingMind> gandhijee_, what are you expecting it to do?
Jun 14 20:08:20 <gandhijee_> RagingMind: get in to my chroot and use the console.
Jun 14 20:58:25 <acidhax> brain
Jun 14 20:58:26 <acidhax> dead
Jun 14 20:58:35 <acidhax> too much knockoutjs and C#.net for one day
Jun 15 01:54:05 <bigbluehat> so...I'm finally gonna write me a webOS app :)
Jun 15 01:54:10 <bigbluehat> should I use this new bootplate thing?
Jun 15 01:54:23 <bigbluehat> #enyojs 2.0?
Jun 15 01:54:32 <bigbluehat> #enyojs that ships with webOS?
Jun 15 01:54:35 <bigbluehat> mojo? :)
Jun 15 01:54:40 <bigbluehat> phonegap?
Jun 15 01:54:48 <bigbluehat> or just plain old JS and HTML?
Jun 15 01:57:42 <EricBlade> well phonegap doesn't preclude any of that
Jun 15 02:24:54 <acidhax> you don't even need phonegap for webos
Jun 15 02:24:59 <acidhax> unless you want it cross platform
Jun 15 02:25:10 <bigbluehat> EricBlade: yeah, true
Jun 15 02:25:20 <bigbluehat> yeah, definitely want it to be cross platform
Jun 15 02:25:28 <bigbluehat> but also want to sell it (maybe) via the App Catalog
Jun 15 02:25:41 <bigbluehat> 'course at this point it doesn't exist :) so no buyers as yet ;)
Jun 15 02:25:47 <bigbluehat> mostly just want to get started
Jun 15 02:26:03 <bigbluehat> but do want to learn things the Right Way™ so what I build is AppCat compat
Jun 15 02:29:01 <bigbluehat> mostly, I guess the thing that's blocking me at this point is which of the all to many routes do I pick when building a web app that's webOS-friendly and AppCat compat
Jun 15 02:29:29 <bigbluehat> enyo's wiki (for one) only mentions PhoneGap and Chrome distroing--no mention of webOS at all :(
Jun 15 02:29:46 <bigbluehat> not sure that precludes my publishing it via the catalog, but I've no idea
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