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Jun 17 04:56:31 <dwc-> EricBlade: who do you talk to on a regular basis who have and use touchpads?
Jun 17 04:58:12 <EricBlade> people on twitter
Jun 17 04:58:14 <EricBlade> and here
Jun 17 04:58:15 <EricBlade> and webosnation
Jun 17 05:03:43 <dwc-> oh
Jun 17 05:03:57 * dwc- hears no such things
Jun 17 05:26:12 <EricBlade> lulz.  read this on a forum "My prediction is they [Microsoft] will release a tablet that is more powerful than the iPad and significantly cheaper. Sure, the OS might not jerk you off like the iOS does, but people will buy it anyways because it's cheaper. With time Apple will be crushed back into obscurity like it was in the 90s. Then, sometime in 2028, they will reanimate Steve Job's corpse and he will head up the third coming of Apple 
Jun 17 05:27:16 <EricBlade> frankly, if microsoft doesn't bust out cellular data tablets, they are going to fare only slightly better than HP did in the market.  Same with Google.
Jun 17 05:27:28 <EricBlade> at least, for the next 2-3 years i think
Jun 17 05:27:39 <EricBlade> maybe that time might be compressed now, since everything is moving so fast though
Jun 17 05:28:18 <dwc-> s/tablet/mp3 player/g;s/ipad/ipod/g
Jun 17 09:01:48 <dkirker> EricBlade: I'm giving that SIP service a try. :)
Jun 17 09:02:28 <EricBlade> spiffy! don't expect too much. i was able to get it to start a connection, after that i was lost
Jun 17 09:02:43 <dkirker> yeah, we'll see what I can do.
Jun 17 09:03:09 <dkirker> I assume that you manually called the gstreamer command from the CLI?
Jun 17 09:03:30 <EricBlade> if we had the gstreamer plugin that would automatically figure out what parameters to use based on the .. uh.. rtf, rtm rta whatever kind of file that was that it would send to negotiate the media parameters .. it would've been easy
Jun 17 09:03:36 * dkirker wonders if his local VoIP PBX is still busted...
Jun 17 09:03:42 <dkirker> sdp
Jun 17 09:04:28 <dkirker> gst-launch playbin file:///to/sdp/descriptor
Jun 17 09:04:31 <dkirker> that might do it
Jun 17 09:04:41 <dkirker> but.... gstreamer may need some special plugin
Jun 17 09:04:46 <dkirker> not sure if it exists
Jun 17 09:04:59 <EricBlade> i cannot get any devices to connect via novacom anymore. wth
Jun 17 09:07:14 <EricBlade> ok, i have no clue if i was in the right area of the world or not, but .. here's what i last had
Jun 17 09:09:11 <EricBlade> gst-launch -vvv gstrtpbin name=rtpbin udpsrc caps=application/x-rtp,media=(string)audio,clock-rate=(int)8000,encoding-name=(string)PCMA,payload=(int)8 port=5554 ! rtpbin.recv_rtp_sink_0 rtpbin. ! rtppcmadepay ! alawdec ! audoconvert udpsrc port=5555 ! rtpbin.recv_rtcp_sink_0 rtpbin.send_rtcp_src_0 ! udpsink port=5007 host=81.23.228.150 sync=false async=false
Jun 17 09:10:40 <dkirker> mmmkay
Jun 17 09:11:04 <dkirker> I think I am looking at the same example
Jun 17 09:11:06 <EricBlade> i had borrowed something quite similar to that from the gstreamer wiki and started making changes until it started spewing something
Jun 17 09:11:38 <EricBlade> yeah there was a whole shell script with stuff that i just combined together there
Jun 17 09:12:02 <dkirker> I think I am looking at that, too :P
Jun 17 09:12:09 <dkirker> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/tree/tests/examples/rtp/client-PCMA.sh
Jun 17 09:12:20 <dkirker> scoutcamper: go back away! :P
Jun 17 09:12:22 <dkirker> jk
Jun 17 09:12:35 <dkirker> :D
Jun 17 09:12:37 <scoutcamper> dkirker, lol
Jun 17 09:12:45 <scoutcamper> im sitting in an evil airport
Jun 17 09:12:57 <scoutcamper> 5am flight FTL
Jun 17 09:13:21 <dkirker> :S
Jun 17 09:13:23 <dkirker> wtf?
Jun 17 09:13:30 * dkirker hates airports and planes
Jun 17 09:13:37 <dkirker> oh, and cars
Jun 17 09:14:08 <dkirker> argh
Jun 17 09:14:21 <dkirker> can't decide if I should work on this sip stuff, sleep, or work on legitimate work
Jun 17 09:14:25 <dkirker> which I should be doing
Jun 17 10:57:44 <EricBlade> ok.. -now- i understand whatsapp
Jun 17 10:58:01 <EricBlade> whatAfreakinMess
Jun 17 10:59:29 <EricBlade> other people have already come to this conclusion i'm sure, but it's not just xmpp with a weird auth method
Jun 17 10:59:38 <EricBlade> it's binary-coded xmpp
Jun 17 10:59:44 <EricBlade> with a weird auth method
Jun 17 11:03:06 <EricBlade> holy crap it's 7am
Jun 17 20:59:23 <haeffb> help!  how would I do a search of the #webos logs for a certain text string... ?
Jun 17 21:01:23 <invalidopcode> haeffb: google search "site:http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/ <search term>"
Jun 17 21:01:36 <haeffb> sweet. thanks
Jun 17 21:01:40 <invalidopcode> np
Jun 18 01:28:34 <EricBlade> anyone know what is used to provide the Prototype Class-like structure in webOS services?
Jun 18 01:28:57 <EricBlade> i'm trying to implement something to test in Node, without having to build it as a webOS service just yet
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