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Jul 07 03:21:19 <invalidopcode> so what's new in the last three weeks?
Jul 07 03:24:50 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: nothing at all
Jul 07 03:25:09 <EricBlade> HP said they couldn't do anything until you came back from vacation
Jul 07 03:25:25 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: how considerate of them
Jul 07 03:25:43 <invalidopcode> so this webOS CE thing was just some minor bug release then?
Jul 07 03:26:09 <EricBlade> no it's a major bug creation
Jul 07 03:27:05 <EricBlade> but the webos-ports people as well as some other people, myself included, have been working on some nice enhancements.  hopefully we'll be able to figure out the bugs
Jul 07 03:28:00 <invalidopcode> ah so I have seen
Jul 07 03:29:58 <EricBlade> CE is basically LunaSysMgr
Jul 07 03:30:08 <EricBlade> which is basically, the UI
Jul 07 03:30:08 <invalidopcode> ah okay
Jul 07 03:30:13 <invalidopcode> I see
Jul 07 03:30:47 <EricBlade> It has a few other functions as well, but we've all been playing with UI stuff, the other stuff doesn't seem terribly interesting to anyone yet
Jul 07 03:31:26 <invalidopcode> ah okay. sounds like fun
Jul 07 03:40:00 <EricBlade> it's pretty neat to be able to do, that's for sure.  i've never worked with a GUI system that was this easy to do things in
Jul 07 03:40:55 <EricBlade> it's got problems with PDK and Flash, though
Jul 07 06:00:01 <EricBlade> wth Google Play allows users who placed an order back in -April- to request a refund?  why do I deal with this crap?
Jul 07 08:15:43 <matthew-> RagingMind: well I was in east london last night, and west london now, but if I go to html5demos.com/geo, my laptop has me at home in westlondon, and my phone has me somewhere in east london - I currently have a longitude of about -0.1 but my phone says longitude of 0.1
Jul 07 08:16:35 <matthew-> but last night, when I was in east london, my phone was getting it right. Which suggests the html5 geolocation api does a Math.abs of the result, which is horrible
Jul 07 08:16:46 <matthew-> actual mapping apps get it right so this could just be a browser issue
Jul 07 08:17:24 <matthew-> but as this issue would mean anyone in USA would appear to be in russia or china, I can't believe it's not been reported before
Jul 07 11:33:13 <matthew-> has the source of the browser been made available yet?
Jul 07 11:34:20 <matthew-> ahh, that's isis-project.gh.com right?
Jul 07 12:56:44 <matthew-> yup, confirmed, that's definitely a bug - if I use phonegap's Geolocation object which wraps the webos Mojo service request for location, then I get back a longitude of -0.07... If I just use the html5 geolocation api, I get back a longitude of 0.07... True on both my pre3 and my touchpad
Jul 07 12:56:58 <matthew-> html5 geolocation api is badly broken
Jul 07 19:33:13 <invalidopcode> wow...there's actually a backlog of webos nations articles to read.. how did this happen?
Jul 07 19:45:01 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: yo around?
Jul 07 20:22:36 <EricBlade> no
Jul 07 20:27:16 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: no
Jul 07 20:37:21 <invalidopcode> oh ok
Jul 07 20:37:30 <invalidopcode> because I wanted to let you know that I got it to login
Jul 07 20:37:48 <invalidopcode> Lets just say its was a little "user error" :)
Jul 07 20:49:13 <EricBlade> oh.. i sent you a new one that updates the menu bar to mostly work
Jul 07 20:49:45 <invalidopcode> okay
Jul 08 00:38:46 <MetroAWD> Say good-bye to my launch day Pre- and Hello to brand-spankin'-new Pre2 soon to be FrankenPre2
Jul 08 01:10:59 <EricBlade1> lesson to self today: do not attempt to configure Boxcar to do notifications for two different google voice accounts on the same boxcar account.  this will only end in pain.
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