**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 21 02:59:58 2012 Aug 21 03:55:11 nn Aug 21 11:35:03 * EricBlade yells loudly about the fiddly parts of the webOS packaging system Aug 21 12:23:07 I have one pdk application, which uses sdl to display content. I can run application using jailer command, but its not launching from icon. Aug 21 12:23:44 Can any one tell me how to get output or error when user click on icon on webos. Aug 21 12:24:47 harpal: does palm-log help you out? Aug 21 12:27:18 madnificent: no its not displaying any data. Aug 21 12:27:26 (that was my only guess) Aug 21 12:27:52 I did novaterm and checked /var/log/messages Aug 21 12:28:13 but its not displaying any error after it Enter in to jail Aug 21 12:32:56 the jail might have its own logging Aug 21 12:33:13 i don't think it's supposed to be able to access the outside resources unless explicitly told so Aug 21 12:38:03 I am not able to find to get jailer log. Aug 21 12:38:19 if I run jailer command on terminal then application launches. Aug 21 13:02:56 Ah, same old url :P Aug 21 13:48:55 * fxspec06 not pdk guy Aug 21 13:49:14 well i've done like two things with PDK. but nothing a full app or anything Aug 21 13:50:19 i got 100 euro and i am linux fan, do you advice me to buy a palm pre 2 ? (sory for my bad english) Aug 21 13:50:58 zobi8225: depends on how long you want to be able to use it. it's one of the most free devices out there. it's really easy to connect to, if that's what you're looking for. Aug 21 13:51:33 if it's what you need, i definitely would not advise against it Aug 21 13:52:07 then again, you're in #webos. #meego would probably tell you something different... but they are WRONG! WRONG I TELL YOU! :P Aug 21 13:52:14 madnificent: i wbnat use it 1 year, i need sync my google-contact , and try to install linux stuf inside Aug 21 13:52:27 if you're a snob and can't appreciate things for what they are and are never happy then i'd advise against it Aug 21 13:52:45 zobi8225: yeah, that should do it :) Aug 21 13:52:46 =P i think you'd be super happy, tho Aug 21 13:53:58 and i am a node.js developper i belive in web-mobile .. so i want try.. Aug 21 13:54:13 and last question, do you belive in openWebOs ? Aug 21 13:54:22 fxspec06: ok :-) Aug 21 13:55:31 i don't believe in it because i find it hard to believe in an operating system. i believe in the people who are passionate about it, though Aug 21 13:55:40 and i think that says a lot Aug 21 13:56:26 zobi8225: chances are quite high that it will not run on your pre2. chances are that openwebos will not run on any current device Aug 21 13:56:44 ok ok :-/ Aug 21 13:56:55 Do you think it works on palm pre 3 ? Aug 21 13:58:54 thanks for all Aug 21 13:59:09 zobi8225: i think it will not work on any current device. perhaps the community gets going with it and then it may work. after all, we got android on the TP too Aug 21 13:59:17 and i think we got webos running on a slab device... Aug 21 13:59:31 so who knows, it may actually happen. i'm hoping, but chances are that it will not happen Aug 21 14:00:08 ok ok Aug 21 14:00:30 thank you for every think, i will install a second hand palm pre 2 Aug 21 14:00:51 wohoow \o/ an active user Aug 21 14:01:07 you convaince me :-) Aug 21 14:01:30 zobi8225: fwiw, i'm affraid of the moment my veer will die on me. i don't want a non-webos device anymore. even though we have less apps than many others, the patches make it a very very efficient toy Aug 21 14:01:36 *convince Aug 21 14:10:52 i think the fact it's late 2012 and iphones and androids are everywhere that all i have are webos devices speaks volumes Aug 21 14:11:55 i mean yeah, i'm only one person... but one person can't be wrong, right? ;) Aug 21 14:13:22 :-) Aug 21 14:14:16 I've been hanging onto a Pre3 since early this year and will finally be switching to it next week Aug 21 15:03:19 RagingMind: to the veer? ^_^ Aug 21 15:03:54 from a pre+ to a Pre3 Aug 21 15:04:11 oh, i misread Aug 21 15:04:16 \o/ Aug 21 15:05:00 the original pre still had the best feel to it imo. yes, it was the most flakey of them all, but the completely rounded curves made it feel more like an ancient relic, than like a smartphone Aug 21 15:05:16 it really surpassed all other devices i've held in my hands since that Aug 21 15:08:52 I quite like the Pre3 Aug 21 15:11:00 i must say that i was truely amazed by the quality of its screen and by the feel of it for being so large. however, i see no reason to have a large smartphone. the veer does everything i could possibly want it to do, and it does so in a tiny sweet sexy package. i don't think it has any real competition Aug 21 15:11:25 without webos, it would be teh suck though Aug 21 15:11:27 I have been really tempted to get a veer as a backup phone... and to play with Aug 21 15:14:14 RagingMind, the veer is really nice, yet extremely small Aug 21 15:26:02 i got a question, if i want start developping app on webos, where should i start ? i have read the oficial SDK was depreciated ... Aug 21 15:26:59 i want developp simple app in javascript Aug 21 15:27:06 zobi8225: you want to start at enyojs.com Aug 21 15:27:20 i already develop on in javascript Aug 21 15:27:26 technically, the official SDK isn't "dead" Aug 21 15:27:29 it still works Aug 21 15:27:34 just uses Enyo 1.00 Aug 21 15:27:37 1.0* Aug 21 15:27:37 ok ok Aug 21 15:27:38 zobi8225: even though it's far from webos-specific, it's a framework to work on everything, but it's what happened to the original SDK... Aug 21 15:27:45 thanks Aug 21 15:27:51 i'd expect all further development to be put in enyo2 Aug 21 15:28:39 madnificent: ok Aug 21 15:35:42 zobi, you can still use Mojo, as well. :P Aug 21 15:36:33 GodGinrai: i find it ill-advised Aug 21 15:37:22 IMHO, they both have their strengths Aug 21 15:37:32 name one strength for Mojo? Aug 21 15:38:00 PatrickC: Menus that integrate w/ the OS Aug 21 15:38:30 Enyo does that Aug 21 15:38:36 if you mean drop down in the top Aug 21 15:39:01 PatrickC: does enyo2 do that too? or do we need an addon for that? Aug 21 15:39:12 No, I mean dropdowns that actually slide in and look like the standard system menu Aug 21 15:39:42 madnificent, i think we need an add-on for that Aug 21 15:39:47 GodGinrai, example? Aug 21 15:39:49 All the Enyo apps I've used just has some crappy popup that doesn't look like a system menu Aug 21 15:39:54 bing maps Aug 21 15:40:17 Even the phone app for the Pre3 only mimics the visual style of the menu Aug 21 15:40:20 * fxspec06 dislike fedex very much right now Aug 21 15:40:34 it's not properly positioned, and does not slide in Aug 21 15:40:48 fxspec06: Your Pre3 didn't come in? Aug 21 15:40:49 GodGinrai: the whole style of webos changed with enyo... so the old menus should be updated too Aug 21 15:41:00 GodGinrai, ah gotcha. i see whatcha mean now Aug 21 15:41:27 when this driver gets back here i'm putting on my ninja costume and smacking this guy Aug 21 15:41:40 madnificent: I prefer menus that don't get overlapped by the black corners, tyvm Aug 21 15:41:51 GodGinrai: it's "delivered" .. to the "front porch" .. but it's not here. Aug 21 15:42:06 ah, that sucks Aug 21 15:42:20 sucks is not really the word i am feeling right now Aug 21 15:42:53 like i missed the guy by 25 mins, i must've been in the shower Aug 21 15:43:23 the customer service told me to look in the BUSHES. i'm like, we have a porch with a bench .... why would it be in the bushes. -__- Aug 21 15:43:50 lol Aug 21 15:44:26 fxspec06, that really sucks Aug 21 15:44:30 have you used one before? Aug 21 15:46:14 no? Aug 21 15:46:41 ah.. Aug 21 15:46:49 you'll enjoy it :) Aug 21 15:46:59 go kill the FexEx driver Aug 21 15:47:29 he has to actually come first. i'm gonna rig the driveway with booby traps Aug 21 15:47:46 lol Aug 21 15:48:14 just don't put a boulder. Don't want your precious device damaged Aug 21 15:48:19 i'll put a big red X that says "place package here" and then when he places it, a huge cage will fall from the sky trapping him Aug 21 15:48:30 haha Aug 21 15:48:43 lol Aug 21 15:53:23 unfortunately, he came and absolutley none of the cool things i imagined happened. Aug 21 15:53:48 aw Aug 21 15:54:05 so it's there now? Aug 21 15:54:58 His empty box has arrived Aug 21 15:55:31 no, it's heavy lol Aug 21 15:55:47 Almanacs Aug 21 15:56:02 it's here, and it's verizon! yippeeee Aug 21 15:56:31 congrats :) Aug 21 15:56:31 gratz :) Aug 21 15:58:38 http://t.co/8jCuyJqR Aug 21 15:59:58 is it LTE? Aug 21 16:00:03 or just 3G Aug 21 16:00:09 just 3G Aug 21 16:00:13 congrats fxspec06! Aug 21 16:00:32 open box->pocket almanac Aug 21 16:00:34 :P Aug 21 16:01:15 btw fxspec06, if you have any trouble activating it Aug 21 16:01:22 it's already upgraded Aug 21 16:01:27 he did the upgrade, lol Aug 21 16:01:33 just add the MEID through MyVerizon Aug 21 16:01:36 to 2.4.4? Aug 21 16:01:41 ah, tyvm Aug 21 16:02:05 and tell the tech support to give you instructions for manual setup on the Pre2 Aug 21 16:02:15 * fxspec06 doing backup of pre2 first Aug 21 16:02:21 it's almost exactly the same process Aug 21 16:02:43 also, make sure your other phone is off until you get it working Aug 21 16:02:59 it's going into aeroplane mode Aug 21 16:03:03 after the backup Aug 21 16:03:23 k Aug 21 16:03:32 i'm more concerned with the webos profiles than the activation Aug 21 16:03:49 download impostah Aug 21 16:03:51 also, my pre 2 slip case is no longer relevant =( Aug 21 16:03:57 PatrickC: why on earth would i do that? Aug 21 16:04:01 go to the profile scene, log out, and click don't reboot Aug 21 16:04:07 it'll remove the profile without erasing anything Aug 21 16:04:08 there's no need. Aug 21 16:04:13 i don't need to do that Aug 21 16:04:37 kk Aug 21 16:05:22 why are you concerned about webOS profiles? Aug 21 16:05:23 what i do need to do is back up carbon Aug 21 16:05:39 because it kicks you out when you sign in on another device Aug 21 16:05:54 so i just need to make sure i've got everything i need before i transfer. Aug 21 16:06:01 i.e. backup sync etc Aug 21 16:06:08 ah, ok Aug 21 16:06:34 and backing up of certain apps that are no longer available in the catalog Aug 21 16:06:37 the Pre3 was my first webOS device, so I was not aware of that Aug 21 16:06:39 i.e. carbon Aug 21 16:06:52 carbon is available in the catalog Aug 21 16:07:01 is it? still? Aug 21 16:07:06 i know graphite was pulled.. Aug 21 16:07:14 are you 110% sure? Aug 21 16:07:22 I saw it when I checked earlier Aug 21 16:07:26 let me check again Aug 21 16:07:48 fxspec06, the impostah thing will sign out of a profile without erasing anything Aug 21 16:07:52 they you don't have to worry about anything Aug 21 16:08:00 PatrickC: i know. i DON'T need it. Aug 21 16:08:14 ok Aug 21 16:08:15 i need it to kick me off and i need to reset the pre 2 Aug 21 16:08:20 thank you Aug 21 16:08:23 carbon for twitter, $1.99 by dots and lines Aug 21 16:08:29 on the app store Aug 21 16:08:32 i thought they pulled it too...? Aug 21 16:08:33 k ty Aug 21 16:09:06 which is better, btw, Carbon or Spaz? Aug 21 16:09:31 Project Macaw Aug 21 16:09:32 :) Aug 21 16:10:22 what's that? Aug 21 16:10:32 only the best twitter client on webOS ;) Aug 21 16:10:47 Preware only, but i'm trying to fix that Aug 21 16:11:09 ah Aug 21 16:11:33 anyways, I'll bbl you guys; heading out for lunch Aug 21 16:11:38 cya Aug 21 16:11:47 but of those 2, Carbon is better then Spaz Aug 21 16:11:53 k Aug 21 17:37:26 back Aug 21 17:37:54 quick, everyone stop talking about GodGinrai Aug 21 17:38:01 lol Aug 21 17:38:19 You got your phone activated yet? Aug 21 17:38:29 yessir, no problemo Aug 21 17:38:50 i like that wifi doesn't allow you to cook eggs on the back Aug 21 17:38:58 i might actually use it more Aug 21 17:39:17 for now i'm just letting it charge up a bit, got to go out soon Aug 21 17:39:43 lol Aug 21 17:39:49 just so you know Aug 21 17:40:04 I figured out a little bit about my heat problem Aug 21 17:40:17 oh yeah? Aug 21 17:40:29 It turns out that being online on IM makes it skyrocket Aug 21 17:40:38 oh jeez, yeah that's a big no no Aug 21 17:40:46 that would definitely do it. i'm never on line Aug 21 17:40:57 I gotta figure out how to fix that. Aug 21 17:41:13 it'd be diff if you could select accounts to be on / off.. but it's either all of them or none of them Aug 21 17:41:39 so i just stay off. whenever i go on the battery drops like 25% / hr Aug 21 17:42:23 Yea, I don't like that it is all or nothing on that, either Aug 21 17:43:15 so what's the best extended battery Aug 21 17:44:27 i see two options: the 2800 $90 one, and the 1400 $43 one. neither look appealing Aug 21 17:44:31 only one I know about is the Mugen one Aug 21 17:46:36 i'm thinking definitely get it Aug 21 17:47:34 I didn't even realize there was a 2800 one Aug 21 17:47:38 http://www.webosnation.com/review-mugen-2800-mah-extended-xl-battery-pre3 Aug 21 17:48:30 doesn't that huge one require a new (non-touchstone) back? Aug 21 17:48:50 ouch, yeah non touchstone. good point Aug 21 17:48:55 i have two of those now Aug 21 17:48:57 but you can make it one Aug 21 17:49:07 oh, that would suck Aug 21 17:49:23 I already have a Zaggskin on my back Aug 21 17:50:54 this xmas I'll probably get the 1400 one Aug 21 17:50:57 i'm so torn because i have the 2600 for my pre2 Aug 21 17:51:29 i have the stock battery in my pre2 and it almost lasts me all day Aug 21 17:51:42 my pre3 is even better on batter Aug 21 17:51:44 battery Aug 21 17:51:46 fxspec06, buy the 1400 one and use the money you haves on a crap ton of touchstones that you can put all over the place Aug 21 17:51:54 *you save Aug 21 17:51:55 lol Aug 21 17:52:15 yeah, that looks like the best idea Aug 21 17:55:51 now, to find the best deal on the 1400.. Aug 21 17:59:07 btw, is anyone else having trouble logging into their yahoo account in synergy? Aug 21 17:59:38 GodGinrai: yahoo logs you out of synergy if you log in from literally anywhere else Aug 21 17:59:48 in webos 2.x Aug 21 18:02:43 Tibfib: site looks loverly :) Aug 21 18:05:16 no Aug 21 18:05:40 I have it pulling my Y! mail and I can still sign into mail, etc on the web Aug 21 18:06:08 hrm, maybe it's just an issue w/ my account. idk Aug 21 18:06:18 oh, but messenger doesn't support multi I don't think Aug 21 18:06:31 fxspec06: I don't log in anywhere else Aug 21 18:06:32 ah, yeah that's it Aug 21 18:06:39 at least I vaguely recall being kicked off from work Aug 21 18:06:44 It gives me an unknown error when I try to sign in Aug 21 18:09:54 bigbluehat: thanks man! Aug 21 18:10:02 I'm just finishing it up now Aug 21 18:10:37 oh? Aug 21 18:11:01 Tibfib: it'd be fab to get Koto updated for Touchpad, btw :) Aug 21 18:11:13 something to do once your site is done ;) Aug 21 18:11:15 he tried Aug 21 18:11:27 oilsworkn: tibfib.com Aug 21 18:11:46 bigbluehat: Heh, I'd love to, but sadly bigger priorities at the moment Aug 21 18:13:01 yeah? world domination? Aug 21 18:13:15 pretty much Aug 21 18:13:20 GodGinrai, this yahoo messenger or mail that you need? Aug 21 18:14:00 the best extended battery is a palm-battery powered mintyboost IMO Aug 21 18:14:49 Yahoo Messenger Aug 21 18:14:50 dwc-, I was looking at minty boost. which version do you have? Aug 21 18:15:08 I have one that is still "assembly required" Aug 21 18:15:22 GodGinrai, I haven't tried that in a while. I had to setup my yahoo mail as a regular imap account cause of login issues Aug 21 18:15:25 * oilsworkn just pops off the back and swaps batteries if he needs to Aug 21 18:15:33 but let me check which version I picked up Aug 21 18:15:56 i learned from rwhitby in nyc that the "thumb" pocket is perfect for holding a spare batt Aug 21 18:15:57 1 x MintyBoost Kit (v3.0) = $19.50 Aug 21 18:16:27 thumb pocket? what are you, women's clothing with purely decorative pockets? Aug 21 18:16:44 idk its actual name Aug 21 18:16:47 sooo many jokes to be made.... Aug 21 18:17:19 the change/key/lighter/battery/wine_opener pocket? Aug 21 18:17:21 I assume you mean the coin pocket in the front pocket of your pants? Aug 21 18:17:45 http://muted.org/brady/uploads/euro_pocket.jpg Aug 21 18:17:55 i never put coins in it Aug 21 18:18:11 in any case, it fits batteries perfectly Aug 21 18:18:26 someone on ebay selling stock pre3 batteries for $53 Aug 21 18:18:40 most are too small and irritating to put coins in, but in some of my khakis it works for change Aug 21 18:18:45 I think historically, it was for pocket watches anyways Aug 21 18:18:57 RagingMind: How the hell do you fit a wine opener in that poclet? Aug 21 18:19:11 (the wine bottle goes in his cargo pants) Aug 21 18:19:17 GodGinrai, it depends on the pants and the wine opener Aug 21 18:19:48 Even a bartender's key would be big for one of those pockets, man Aug 21 18:21:06 Also, RagingMind, you are saying that you had the same yahoo problems as me, and circumvented it by not using the built-in yahoo support? T_T Aug 21 18:21:21 GodGinrai, sounds like it Aug 21 18:21:59 that is the built-in yahoo support Aug 21 18:22:06 if I want yahoo messenger on my phone, which is very rare, I just go to their mobile messenger web page. it works fairly well Aug 21 18:22:15 if you add an account through synergy you just mark y/n for all the different services Aug 21 18:22:23 IMAP is not the built-in support, dwc- Aug 21 18:22:25 for me, I marked n for everything but mail Aug 21 18:22:46 it's not? what is Aug 21 18:22:58 Yahoo is Aug 21 18:23:04 dwc-, but it stopped working as a yahoo account on my pre+ with 2.1 so I had to use imap for mail Aug 21 18:23:18 I don't understand what you mean Aug 21 18:23:24 I think it works as a yahoo account on my Pre3 with 2.2.(whatever) Aug 21 18:23:46 what other way is there to get mail Aug 21 18:23:57 He added his yahoo account as a generic email account rather than as a yahoo account Aug 21 18:24:20 you can add it as a "yahoo account" Aug 21 18:24:32 and it won't work Aug 21 18:24:33 manually entering the imap and smpt servers in a generic "mail/imap/pop" (whatever it's called in the accounts gui) Aug 21 18:24:39 and it is the same thing as adding an imap mail Aug 21 18:24:43 that is what happened to us, dwc Aug 21 18:24:47 no it's not Aug 21 18:24:49 dwc-, no it's not the same Aug 21 18:24:57 dwc-, what version of webos are you on? Aug 21 18:25:13 and GodGinrai... version? Aug 21 18:25:14 2.1 Aug 21 18:25:26 2.2.4 Aug 21 18:25:33 tcp 285 0 10.2.100.23:43544 98.138.24.48:993 ESTABLISHED Aug 21 18:25:41 98.138.24.48 vcs-u2-star-i-myc.mail.vip.ne1.yahoo.com Aug 21 18:25:48 (993 is imaps) Aug 21 18:27:00 well, I know it *uses* imap if you set it up as a yahoo account, but something about the setup fails and it can't login for me. so I only use contacts and calendar from my yahoo account Aug 21 18:27:21 and for my email I have to use a generic imap setup and it logs in just fine Aug 21 18:27:42 well, I just added a second Y! account Aug 21 18:27:42 yea, for me, it won't log into my yahoo account Aug 21 18:28:22 THERE. I may be done with tibfib.com Aug 21 18:28:46 lies Aug 21 18:28:50 damn lies and statistics Aug 21 18:29:00 people still have yahoo accounts? Aug 21 18:29:09 s/have/use/ Aug 21 18:29:12 oilsworkn, a LOT of people do Aug 21 18:29:15 wow Aug 21 18:29:19 * halfhalo chuckles Aug 21 18:29:56 not everyone saw the need to ditch their yahoo mail for google just cause google was the hip new thing Aug 21 18:30:02 I use it only for YIM, oilsworkn Aug 21 18:30:17 * oilsworkn ditched yahoo way before gmail came around Aug 21 18:30:18 I still have my Y! from 1996 Aug 21 18:30:29 I got mine in 1998 Aug 21 18:30:36 I gave up on my my hotmail account from then though Aug 21 18:30:38 so much spsam Aug 21 18:31:01 [pre-msft hotmail] Aug 21 18:31:13 lol yea, My Hotmail account turned into just an address for signing into MSNM :P Aug 21 18:31:23 * oilsworkn signed up for outlook.com but hasnt even tried it yet Aug 21 18:31:24 I get some spam in my Y!, but it does a really good job of dumping it all in the spam folder where I can ignore it Aug 21 18:31:31 boy I'm really having trouble typing today Aug 21 18:33:32 dwc-, know the feeling... Aug 21 18:33:34 too hot. Aug 21 18:33:52 wawawaaa Aug 21 18:33:59 air conditioning Aug 21 18:34:47 * oilsworkn sets tibfib.com as his homepage Aug 21 18:35:25 needs more blink tags Aug 21 18:36:20 like that preware theme someone made where the controlls all rotated in circles and the background was rainbow gradient animated stuff? Aug 21 18:36:27 YES Aug 21 18:36:30 lol Aug 21 18:36:30 DO IT Aug 21 18:36:32 NOW Aug 21 18:36:43 * oilsworkn doesnt have access to tibfib.com source Aug 21 18:37:41 WELL I NEVER! Aug 21 18:37:48 i do need something to replace igoogle as my homepage when it goes away in november Aug 21 18:38:12 I don't have a homepage... Aug 21 18:38:47 well, here at work we have an internal homepage, but at home i use igoog Aug 21 18:40:17 Theoretically I may have one. But I haven't seen it in years. That would involve closing chrome all the way, and thats like never happened. Aug 21 18:40:57 lol Aug 21 18:41:02 yeah Aug 21 18:41:15 at least when you update you can reopen all the windows+tabs pretty easily Aug 21 18:41:35 woahwoahwoah Aug 21 18:41:41 who said anything about updating Aug 21 18:42:02 it gets the little arrow on the wrench Aug 21 18:42:09 if you want too long it turns into an exclimation point Aug 21 18:42:24 and thats the way it will stay Aug 21 18:42:30 gotta update or you wont get any new awesomeness Aug 21 18:42:33 its worth it Aug 21 18:42:37 BAH Aug 21 18:42:52 i actually really like the chrome sync across all my pcs Aug 21 18:42:59 at first i was skeptical but it really is better Aug 21 18:43:15 used it once Aug 21 18:43:30 screwed with my tab management strategy Aug 21 18:43:43 lol Aug 21 18:43:46 AKA keep opening tabs in a window until favicon goes away Aug 21 18:43:57 because thats how I tell what is what Aug 21 18:43:59 it doesnt load tabs from other machines Aug 21 18:44:05 EXCUSES Aug 21 18:44:10 it just gives you the option to next to the recently closed thing Aug 21 18:45:49 but it sadly never syncs to one of my touchpads with android+chrome on it Aug 21 18:46:06 wawaaa Aug 21 18:46:14 * oilsworkn crys river Aug 21 18:48:27 halfhalo, you're a laptop guy, are any of these a good deal? http://tech.woot.com/plus/laptopalooza Aug 21 18:49:08 11:41 < oilsworkn> at least when you update you can reopen all the windows+tabs pretty easily Aug 21 18:49:12 WHEN IT WORKS Aug 21 18:49:15 yeah Aug 21 18:49:25 i find if you restart it twice it fails Aug 21 18:49:34 you need to close it then reopen all the windows Aug 21 18:49:39 then close it Aug 21 18:49:43 or they'll be gone the second time Aug 21 18:49:53 sometimes it's not even me though Aug 21 18:49:58 it's like chrome has an update Aug 21 18:50:01 oilsworkn eh, the remaining samsung is kinda, but meh. Aug 21 18:50:03 so I exit Aug 21 18:50:04 What use case? Aug 21 18:50:07 restart, and bam, all gone Aug 21 18:50:16 halfhalo, no specific one, just wondering Aug 21 18:50:24 dwc-, sucks :/ Aug 21 18:50:27 and then I go through the chrome dir, look at the Last/Current Session/Tabs, see how small they are and then go restore them from a backup Aug 21 18:50:31 :/ Aug 21 18:50:31 * RagingMind hugs his lenovo Aug 21 18:50:54 but it does a pretty good job whenever its not screwing up Aug 21 18:50:57 lol Aug 21 18:51:15 so large Aug 21 18:51:18 the smallest is a 14" Aug 21 18:51:57 lol woot Aug 21 18:52:02 that samsungs description Aug 21 18:52:07 "Holy crap, hold on. THIS computer makes all those others look like dung fires. THIS is definitely the one you want! Sorry about the miscommunication. I didn't realize we were selling these." Aug 21 18:52:23 <3 woot Aug 21 18:52:27 yeah Aug 21 18:52:37 they sell much much more then one thing a day now though Aug 21 18:52:41 they're like a regular store Aug 21 18:52:47 just think, you can get a job writing stuff like that for them Aug 21 18:52:51 eh, I guess Aug 21 18:53:03 im not that creative of a writer Aug 21 18:53:12 but 700-800 gets you a much nicer computer Aug 21 18:53:15 that does more things Aug 21 18:53:16 faster Aug 21 18:53:19 with style Aug 21 18:53:23 and flames Aug 21 18:53:31 stylish flames, no less Aug 21 18:53:40 * oilsworkn wants to see the flames Aug 21 18:54:18 get in line Aug 21 18:54:30 * oilsworkn takes a number Aug 21 18:54:43 your number is 37 Aug 21 18:55:10 lower then i expected Aug 21 18:55:20 * oilsworkn sees #12 sitting on the ground and scoops it up Aug 21 18:55:26 oilsworkn: iGoogle is going away? Aug 21 18:55:32 yeah Aug 21 18:55:33 * halfhalo calls #38 Aug 21 18:55:37 the flames make it go faster Aug 21 18:56:00 dwc-, like the "made for windows xp" and "intel inside" stickers? Aug 21 18:56:07 damn straight Aug 21 18:56:17 although Aug 21 18:56:25 none of my computers have those at the moment Aug 21 18:56:28 interesting... Aug 21 18:56:48 GodGinrai, november 1st 2013 Aug 21 18:56:56 so you got time to find a replacement Aug 21 18:56:58 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/spring-cleaning-in-summer.html Aug 21 18:57:06 TO FOOD! Aug 21 18:58:00 yeah thats a good idea Aug 21 19:22:13 hey guys, im having some really bad issues with my pixi. It did the typical crash and burn, but upon reboot, preware and all utils i can use to reinstall preware are gone Aug 21 19:22:32 vanished. So now im sitting on a laptop with limited time attempting to install preware via freetether (EDGE) Aug 21 19:23:01 apparantly i can login to my phone via putty but it gives me an auth error due to no root password Aug 21 19:23:13 any ideas anyone? Aug 21 19:24:08 quickinstaller also throws an error about a main class not being found and all other methods are infeasable over a 2.75g connection Aug 21 19:33:25 nobody? Aug 21 19:37:38 csc`, from what you said so far, there may not be a quick answer Aug 21 19:38:22 also you should explain what you mean by "typical crash and burn" because everybody has a different definition of "typical" Aug 21 19:48:30 RagingMind: freezes then reboots Aug 21 19:48:48 (which if i had to guess it would be something to do with a buffer overflow or swap) Aug 21 19:49:32 RagingMind: besides, ive tried everything but wiping my phone on the 6ts page, and regardless of the definition of crash and burn, it slightly has nothing to do with my time constraint issues or lack of preware :( Aug 21 19:50:52 followed this exactly but still cant login with a blank password http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Putty Aug 21 19:58:12 putty only works if you have dropbear on your phone set up beforehand. it's part of the developer tools (unless you installed an alternative ssh server from preware) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 22 03:00:00 2012