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Jan 16 12:17:44 <darkdeveloper> I want to run fceux, compiled on ubuntu chroot in webos natively (Pre3 webOS 2.2.4). How can I do this? Just copy file to /bin doesn't work
Jan 16 12:18:08 <darkdeveloper> If I copy fceux binary to /usr/bin (also it give me some errors about libs, then I copy them from ubuntu), it gives me an error from native webOS libstdc++ and libc. How can I fix these errors?
Jan 16 12:22:09 * darkdev waiting for answer
Jan 16 13:21:13 <HaDAk> darkdeveloper: have you tried compiling it against the libs that webos provides?
Jan 16 13:21:27 <HaDAk> darkdeveloper: or given webos the libs that fceux wants?
Jan 16 13:21:51 <HaDAk> webos isn't so different from linux. in fact, it is the closest thing to linux you're going to get on a phone.
Jan 16 13:22:03 <HaDAk> in that regard, it's fairly "standard" in the way you'd troubleshoot things like that
Jan 16 14:11:01 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've given fceux all libs from Linux, except libstdc++ and libc. I can't substitute them.
Jan 16 14:12:31 <darkdeveloper> fceux gives me this error: /lib/libc.so.6: version "GLIBC_2.11" not found (required by fceux)
Jan 16 14:12:57 <HaDAk> well, that's pretty self explanatory XD
Jan 16 14:14:04 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: You are right, I know that))) But how can I fix that?
Jan 16 14:14:44 <HaDAk> what's the output of `du /lib/libc.so*`
Jan 16 14:15:28 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: 0  /libc.so.6
Jan 16 14:16:05 <HaDAk> is that /libc.so.6 or /lib/libc.so.6?
Jan 16 14:16:42 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: sorry, thats my error. /lib/libc.so.6
Jan 16 14:16:53 <HaDAk> so, it's 0 bytes.
Jan 16 14:17:10 <HaDAk> is that the only output from that command?
Jan 16 14:17:23 <darkdeveloper> locate libc.so.6 gives me 2 files: /boot/lib/libc.so.6 and this libc
Jan 16 14:17:39 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Yes
Jan 16 14:17:42 <HaDAk> du /boot/lib/libc.so.6
Jan 16 14:18:07 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: 0 too
Jan 16 14:18:27 <HaDAk> in /boot/lib...
Jan 16 14:18:31 <HaDAk> ls -la libc*
Jan 16 14:19:18 <darkdeveloper> ls: libc* no such file or directory
Jan 16 14:19:36 <HaDAk> hum. how about just la -la
Jan 16 14:19:46 <HaDAk> i wanna see if libc.so.6 is symlinked.
Jan 16 14:19:58 <HaDAk> if it is, it should have libc.so.6 -> /path/to/real/file
Jan 16 14:21:59 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: /lib/libc-2.8.so is this correct lib? Size is 1.47MB
Jan 16 14:22:28 <HaDAk> aha, so you have 2.8 and fceux wants 2.11
Jan 16 14:22:30 <HaDAk> your lib is out of date
Jan 16 14:23:28 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I'll try to copy libc from linux and symlink to /libc.so.2
Jan 16 14:23:46 <HaDAk> darkdeveloper: careful not to break anything.
Jan 16 14:31:14 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've deleted symlink libc.so.6 and now can't rename/list/remove and etc files
Jan 16 14:31:38 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: How can I make symlink to libc.so.6 now??
Jan 16 14:32:08 <HaDAk> ln -s <src> <dst>
Jan 16 14:32:19 <HaDAk> i told you to be careful not to break things :P
Jan 16 14:32:52 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: this commands doesn't work... ls/ln/cp/mv/rm.. gives me libc missing
Jan 16 14:33:17 <HaDAk> yeah, that's why i said be careful not to break it.
Jan 16 14:33:27 <HaDAk> you're going to need to recover it some other way
Jan 16 14:33:34 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Can I fix it now?)
Jan 16 14:34:15 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: my pre 3 is not booting now :D
Jan 16 14:34:46 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I'll try to fix it with novaterm
Jan 16 14:34:59 <HaDAk> ^^
Jan 16 14:44:48 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've booted into memboot (novacom). I'm in novaterm now... Any advice to fix without doctor?)
Jan 16 14:45:03 <HaDAk> recreate the old symlink
Jan 16 14:45:27 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: fs is not internal that in phone
Jan 16 14:45:38 <HaDAk> wat
Jan 16 14:45:50 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: May be I need to mount something from /dev?
Jan 16 14:46:34 <HaDAk> i don't spend much time in memboot. try asking in -ports?
Jan 16 14:46:34 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've boot this way: novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-mantaray.uImage
Jan 16 14:46:56 <HaDAk> they'd certainly know more than me about that.
Jan 16 14:47:02 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Thanq, no I'll try
Jan 16 14:55:23 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've fixed it. Can tell solution, if interested)
Jan 16 14:55:36 <HaDAk> please do
Jan 16 14:56:58 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: At first novacom boot mem:// < path_to_uImage
Jan 16 14:57:17 <darkdeveloper> then novaterm
Jan 16 14:57:45 <darkdeveloper> All internal fs is located as lvm2 in /dev/store
Jan 16 14:58:14 <darkdeveloper> mount /dev/store/root to any folder
Jan 16 14:58:38 <HaDAk> oh, nice.
Jan 16 14:58:40 <HaDAk> piece of cake
Jan 16 14:58:45 <darkdeveloper> That's all) You can operate with all files and folders in your phone even if OS is cracked
Jan 16 14:59:56 <HaDAk> chroot ftw.
Jan 16 15:09:40 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: fail... Device is not starting even when I created missed link. What is the problem?
Jan 16 15:10:11 <HaDAk> probably that it requires that specific version of libc
Jan 16 15:10:27 <HaDAk> or that the version you threw in there wasn't compiled properly for the device
Jan 16 15:10:32 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I created symlink to old version of libc
Jan 16 15:12:38 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: maybe I must copy libc from membooted fs, not to make symlink?
Jan 16 15:17:13 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've copied all content from /lib and /usr/lib to my device... waitind) Finger cross)
Jan 16 15:18:03 <HaDAk> darkdeveloper: you shouldn't have deleted/overwritten the file. always copy it out of the way. :P
Jan 16 15:18:51 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I deleted only symlink to it ;) Also, device is started!!!))
Jan 16 15:19:10 <HaDAk> good.
Jan 16 15:19:14 <HaDAk> now, be more careful this time
Jan 16 15:19:29 <HaDAk> perhaps compile fceux to look at a different path, so you can package the proper lib with it
Jan 16 15:20:04 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: May be older versions will work with this lib?
Jan 16 15:20:37 <HaDAk> why would you want to regress? ;)
Jan 16 15:20:51 <HaDAk> it's an embedded system, so you know what to expect.
Jan 16 15:20:57 <HaDAk> package your own lib, and link it locally
Jan 16 15:21:00 <HaDAk> problem solved
Jan 16 15:26:05 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Thanq very much) I'll try next time)
Jan 16 15:26:21 <HaDAk> i'm curious to see if you get it working well.
Jan 16 15:26:35 <HaDAk> if you ARE planning on doing an nes emulator, can i make a request?
Jan 16 15:34:39 <darkdeveloper> I just love webOS and want to get a free NES emulator. There are two NES emu, but I can't buy it because I'm from Russia) Also it's interesting to do something harder, than easy installation =) I'll try to get fully working FCEUX or may be FakeNES port, but I have a few time. I'm also working on other project... If you want toknow any news from porting, just add me in skype or webosnation
Jan 16 15:35:23 <HaDAk> well, if you decide to go full-blown with it, i hope you add in bluetooth controller support :D
Jan 16 15:39:25 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Just add me here and we will see) http://forums.webosnation.com/members/541756.html
Jan 16 15:40:29 <HaDAk> :)
Jan 16 15:41:31 <HaDAk> uh. i don't know how to add you >>
Jan 16 15:42:08 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: Give me link to your profile)
Jan 16 15:43:55 <HaDAk> internet is being slow. gimmie a min.
Jan 16 15:44:08 <HaDAk> http://forums.webosnation.com/members/182548.html
Jan 16 15:45:18 <darkdeveloper> HaDAk: I've added you) Must go working now) Bye!
Jan 16 15:45:30 <HaDAk> cya!
Jan 16 16:35:38 <NuttyBunny> hey everyone!
Jan 16 16:35:50 <NuttyBunny> development questions for enyo 1, where do I go? :)
Jan 16 16:37:40 <HaDAk> uh
Jan 16 16:37:53 <HaDAk> you found it
Jan 16 16:38:31 <NuttyBunny> I think it should be #enyojs instead... I'm just awaiting confirmation ;)
Jan 16 16:40:03 <HaDAk> yep
Jan 16 16:40:05 <HaDAk> that's where you want to be.
Jan 16 16:40:16 <HaDAk> ask your question. somebody will eventually answer it
Jan 16 16:41:16 <NuttyBunny> hehehe.. I know :)     The question goes as follows, what event is fired whenever a popup is displayed in enyo?  I know rendered is fired whenever it's created and rendered, but if I close it and open it later rendered doesn't fire again
Jan 16 16:41:30 <NuttyBunny> I need to know if there's an event that fires everytime the popup opens
Jan 16 16:42:50 <HaDAk> yeah. probably best asked in #enyojs
Jan 16 16:42:51 <HaDAk> ^^
Jan 16 16:42:55 <HaDAk> cause i have no clue
Jan 16 16:43:08 <HaDAk> i'd also recommend not using enyo1. switch to enyo2.
Jan 16 16:43:21 <HaDAk> open webos doesn't really support enyo1 so well. enyo2 is the future, and backwards compatible
Jan 16 16:45:42 <NuttyBunny> yep, but I started developing this beast on enyo1, and I intend to sell it on the 3 TouchPads that are still using webOS ;)
Jan 16 16:48:40 <NuttyBunny> (in other words, right now I need present, not future)
Jan 16 16:48:58 <HaDAk> the touchpad has no problem running enyo2
Jan 16 17:20:26 <NuttyBunny> Ah! The enyo API reference, that's what I was looking for ;)
Jan 16 18:10:28 <dwc-> yikes, changing libc.so
Jan 16 18:11:00 <dwc-> seems like if it was originally linked against 2.9 instead of 2.11 you should run fine
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