**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 08 02:59:58 2013 May 08 10:18:19 hii al May 08 11:05:04 Sj_: hi, how are you? May 08 11:12:48 hi feniksa i'm fone May 08 11:12:50 fine* May 08 11:12:58 what about you May 08 11:13:13 I am fine too, just coding some stuff May 08 11:13:21 ohh great May 08 11:13:30 so do u work for Hp webos? May 08 11:13:50 for now webos doesn't belong to hp :-) May 08 11:13:51 yes May 08 11:14:01 yeah so SVL right? May 08 11:14:11 it isnow belongs to LG May 08 11:14:28 Sj_: yep, to LG May 08 11:14:44 wher are you from? which country May 08 11:15:11 Sj_: Ukraine May 08 11:15:22 ok ok May 08 11:15:30 Sj_: and what about you? May 08 11:15:38 so how webos is related to you? May 08 11:15:41 i'm from India May 08 11:17:01 Sj_: i one of core developer :-) May 08 11:17:18 ohhh great.. nice to meet you May 08 11:17:35 webos not dead, it just smell bad (rofl) May 08 11:17:40 :-D May 08 11:17:46 hahah .. May 08 11:18:01 so you know in and out of Webos right? May 08 11:18:38 yep May 08 11:18:49 ok nice May 08 11:19:05 by the way feniksa is miss or mister :P May 08 11:19:41 Sj_: mr May 08 11:19:59 webos is too brutall for girls May 08 11:20:07 ok .. normally women names end up with owels that is why.... May 08 11:20:15 ohhh brutal for girls?? how..? May 08 11:20:41 Sj_: I mean too complicated May 08 11:21:00 hahahha... easy things in the world are made complex by women... :P May 08 11:21:20 i have a doubt in webos May 08 11:21:43 do u know about imageeditor application May 08 11:22:44 Sj_: hm, no. I am responisble for core services inside webos and i don't familiar with user side applications (like facebook / image editor or something else) May 08 11:23:10 Sj_: but - what wrong with it? May 08 11:23:32 my doubt is not about application.. but in that applicatin they need to acces filesystem through javascript wchich is impossible.. so they have two binaries and registration files which are been copied into usr/bin and ls2 rols and services May 08 11:23:55 i mean in the build time May 08 11:24:53 my doubt is... can outsider write c code to register some services and include in webos??? May 08 11:25:08 short answer: yes May 08 11:25:13 if it is so then won;t it be a security issue? May 08 11:26:18 if somebody is crazy and written code to delete files from filesystem then?? May 08 11:26:39 i don't know too much about webos but have some idea about architechture.. May 08 11:27:15 and i tried to write some middleware service (simple one) and application to interact with it... i succesfully build and ran.. May 08 11:27:20 Sj_: i don't know how it works on latest webos versions, but in old version for native applications (like games) their are started inside "sandbox" May 08 11:28:09 :D did i sound stupid??? don't mind though.. because i already mentions i don't know much abt webos stuff May 08 11:28:35 It worked in such way: ipk installs service files, luna desc files and application. When user want start app, it starts inside sandbox May 08 11:28:55 and application can't "rm -rf /" :-) May 08 11:29:18 yeah but a middleware component can rm -rf :P May 08 11:29:20 but how it works latest version - i don't know May 08 11:29:48 Sj_: middleware component... May 08 11:30:10 that is waht i confuse.. in image editor they have binaries which perform fileoperations and they are copying them into /usr/bin and registering services to luna bus !!! May 08 11:30:40 yeah like downloadmanager or activitymanager these are middle ware right? May 08 11:31:05 ok ok.. so u left webos now... it seeeemms May 08 11:31:07 :D May 08 11:31:51 Sj_: yes, and this is correct way. For now "native WEBOS applications / services" like downloadmanager or activity manager runs as root and have full access to system May 08 11:33:09 hmm so u r the one who is there when webos is started... May 08 11:33:59 Sj_: ??? May 08 11:34:33 Sj_: some "core" services is a part of webos and webos will not work without them. It is like udev or acpid May 08 11:34:38 can u name any services u have developed.. if it is non-confidential only ofcourse :P May 08 11:34:58 ohh ok ok i got yoou May 08 11:35:55 so what's ur over al openion on webos .. if mobile is released with it then??what might be the situation.. in ur imagination May 08 11:39:07 Sj_: webos have great idea. Some components are good, some are very bad and need to be absolutly redevelop. Some part of system need to be thrown away as "stupidy". May 08 11:39:18 Inside webos it is a lot of work May 08 11:39:22 to be done May 08 11:40:02 but i can't predict future :-) May 08 11:40:50 ohhh ok May 08 11:42:43 i'm new to this IRC and it is nice idea to solve problems of individuals..:-) May 08 11:43:09 so how many years industry experience you have? May 08 11:43:51 Sj_: sometimes you need to be very patient to get an answer May 08 11:44:19 hahaha . .. so r u caliculating nowww :D May 08 11:44:53 Sj_: :-) for 8 y. May 08 11:45:01 yeah.. people here might be loged in when they are in office.. so naturally this not only the work to answer strangers :P May 08 11:45:07 ok May 08 11:45:49 getting core work is now adays very difficult... every where building testing integrating,,, those stuff only May 09 00:33:09 Things must be slow, no one said anything since last Friday **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 09 02:59:58 2013