**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 03 02:59:58 2013 Dec 03 12:35:42 so, i got myself a q10. the hardware is undeniably newer than the hardware in my veer. but my god, webos was a blast. Dec 03 13:16:13 was? :( Dec 03 13:19:09 HaDAk: my veer is acting up and the electronics really are from a few generations back. the keyboard and the curved glass were way ahead of their age. at least, that's my impression of it all. Dec 03 13:19:36 it would've been better if they'd have kept the 'everything is smooth' impression of the pre/pre+ though. Dec 03 13:19:46 the veer is too tiny for my giant hands. Dec 03 13:20:15 the idea behind the pre was a pebble that had been been washed over by waves for hundreds of years Dec 03 13:20:47 i don't have tiny hands, but i manage to operate the veer perfectly. the keys are tiny, but you somehow learn to press them. i often overlap 9 keys at once with a finger, yet the right one is pressed. Dec 03 13:21:25 that's some masterful hardware design, right there Dec 03 13:21:30 i still remember the first presentation i saw about webos. i had to wait for over a year to actually get y hands on something that ran it. Dec 03 13:22:25 HaDAk: the electronic hardware is outdated. the cpu is fairly slow, the screen resolution isn't really impressive. that sort of thing. Dec 03 13:22:55 the hardware was gorgeous and sleek, but flimsy and under powered. even then, it wasn't much compared to the hottest devices. Dec 03 13:23:07 this is why we're working on bringing it to "anything that can run android" Dec 03 13:23:48 'it' being webos right? Dec 03 13:24:52 also, that wouldn't give me a replacement for the Veer. the Veer had decent specs in a tiny package, now you only get decent specs in something that's larger than my pint of beer. Dec 03 13:25:38 yes, webos. Dec 03 13:25:46 well, we don't know what's coming out. Dec 03 13:26:01 webos-ports isn't ready for the primetime yet. when it is, who knows what devices will be out there. Dec 03 13:29:16 you never know, but i doubt we'll get something as impressive as the first pre anytime soon. Dec 03 13:30:02 i followed webos ports earlier, but i'm not convinced the community will get everything up and running. i certainly hope you guys do and i wish you all the best with it! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 04 02:59:58 2013