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Apr 15 16:50:19 <Preemptive> Starting in 10mins.
Apr 15 16:50:21 <Preemptive> https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-5.html#post3453060
Apr 15 17:01:41 <Preemptive> Good Morning everyone! Here's that agenda again: https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-5.html#post3453060
Apr 15 17:02:00 <nizovn> morning
Apr 15 17:02:56 <Preemptive> nizovn: Morning!
Apr 15 17:03:35 <Preemptive> I just got in, so I need a minute to set up.
Apr 15 17:05:15 <Preemptive> 1. Attendees & Introductions of new attendees.
Apr 15 17:05:49 <Preemptive> Say Hi, or if you are new give a brief webOS-related bio .
Apr 15 17:08:00 <Preemptive> Misj & bbito here?
Apr 15 17:08:13 <JVLebbink> hi
Apr 15 17:08:27 <Misj> here
Apr 15 17:09:15 <bbito> here
Apr 15 17:10:19 <Preemptive> Hi JVLebbink!
Apr 15 17:10:37 <Preemptive> I guess that's it for now, so on to....
Apr 15 17:10:46 <Preemptive> 2. Any proposed updates to the aims or rules of the group.
Apr 15 17:11:26 <Preemptive> I'm guessing there will be nothing. Also, Misj has been ill, so i'm going to skip the following items:
Apr 15 17:13:01 <Preemptive> 4.2, 4.4, 4.7.2. I think 4.7.3 is now done. I'm not aware of anything on 4.7.4, so I'll drop those too.
Apr 15 17:13:11 <Preemptive> 3. Possible selection of officers or area contacts.
Apr 15 17:13:45 <Preemptive> Nothing, right? Moving on...
Apr 15 17:13:55 <Preemptive> 4. Progress reports.
Apr 15 17:14:28 <Preemptive> 4.1. Qupzilla http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331764-tp-qupzilla.html
Apr 15 17:14:42 <nizovn> qupzilla is finally packaged; waiting reply from pivotCE for including it into pivotCE feed
Apr 15 17:14:47 <nizovn> if anyone wants to try new version for now, they can install it from my testing feed: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nizovn/preware_feed/master/ipkgs
Apr 15 17:15:03 <JVLebbink> :thumbsup:
Apr 15 17:15:49 <nizovn> hope it will work :P
Apr 15 17:16:14 <Misj> I'll take a look if I have time
Apr 15 17:16:23 <Preemptive> Good stuff! I'll be trying when the meeting is over. Do you want me to chase up Pattyland about the feed? I don't know if he will reply any faster to me!
Apr 15 17:16:23 <JVLebbink> a go-live is always tense
Apr 15 17:17:48 <nizovn> Preemtive: not sure, i contacted them yesterday, so i would like to wait a bit
Apr 15 17:18:07 <Preemptive> OK. Bug no.1: You link is 404! ;-)
Apr 15 17:18:19 <Preemptive> you > your
Apr 15 17:18:30 <nizovn> ah yes
Apr 15 17:18:46 <nizovn> that link should be inserted as feed url in preware
Apr 15 17:19:26 <nizovn> when adding new feed
Apr 15 17:19:27 <Preemptive> Ah. OK. Any release notes?
Apr 15 17:20:21 <nizovn> ok found it
Apr 15 17:20:24 <nizovn> Split into separate packages, first Preware release, added support for context menus on long tap, added close button to window frames
Apr 15 17:21:39 <Misj> long tap! been waiting for that
Apr 15 17:21:51 <Preemptive> Sounds great. We can all report to the webOS Nation thread when we try it (it's linked in the agenda)
Apr 15 17:22:04 <nizovn> ok
Apr 15 17:23:38 <Preemptive> Great news. Do want to add anything? Or is it just a matter of us getting on and trying the new version? (i know there might be SDK stuff later)
Apr 15 17:24:32 <nizovn> not really
Apr 15 17:24:49 <Preemptive> OK.
Apr 15 17:24:51 <Preemptive> 4.3. Updated meta-doctors. (Herrie, bbito) http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/331796-webos-internals-meta-doctor-2017-a.html#post3451411
Apr 15 17:25:40 <bbito410> No movement from my end
Apr 15 17:26:46 <Preemptive> bbito410: Should we try and push to get people who know meta-doctoring involved? I know you felt uncertain here.
Apr 15 17:27:31 <bbito410> Absolutely! I have no expertise with makefiles, etc. Any help welcomed
Apr 15 17:28:25 <Preemptive> We could comb the forums - maybe dig some one up. There was a guy who was doing this stuff all the time I think.
Apr 15 17:28:47 <Preemptive> It feels like this is what's blocking things.
Apr 15 17:29:32 <bbito410> I think Herrie has some idea of how to move forward, but I think Herrie is deep into ports
Apr 15 17:30:55 <Preemptive> Yes. He may be over stretching himself. Finding additional help is probably the best way forward if it's possible. If we can at least get advice on the basic process to set up, then moifications should be relatively easy.
Apr 15 17:31:09 <Preemptive> *modifications
Apr 15 17:31:55 <bbito410> Does anyone currently present have skills?
Apr 15 17:32:24 <nizovn> i never tried meta-doctoring
Apr 15 17:32:59 <JVLebbink> no knowledge available here
Apr 15 17:33:01 <nizovn> but have small experience with Makefiles
Apr 15 17:33:08 <bbito> I think its general makefile skills we need, not specific meta-doctor
Apr 15 17:33:57 <nizovn> what are the aims for now?
Apr 15 17:34:15 <nizovn> looks like linked https://github.com/bbito/meta-doctor/issues/1 is done
Apr 15 17:34:20 <Preemptive> The Makefile is the recipe of packages to build the doctor. Is that right?
Apr 15 17:34:22 <bbito> My idea of next steps is to set it up such that the makefile looks at folders of patches and apps and loops through, installing them into the os image
Apr 15 17:35:16 <bbito> The makefile takes two or more doctors and a bunch of option flags to build a new doctor
Apr 15 17:35:34 <nizovn> btw i have loop example for preware feed generation: https://github.com/nizovn/preware_feed/blob/master/package.sh
Apr 15 17:35:39 <nizovn> it sounds relalated
Apr 15 17:36:42 <nizovn> that script loops through packages folder end executes make
Apr 15 17:37:26 <Preemptive> bbito: I recently joined a couple of webOS discussion groups. I could ask there (& on twitter)
Apr 15 17:37:45 <bbito> My idea being that 'required' patches like SSL update, etc. can be thrown into a folder. Then the makefile bakes them into a new doctor that is pre-patched and has all your normal apps installed so that there is no longer the post-docttor pain of adding all that stuff
Apr 15 17:38:34 <nizovn> ok
Apr 15 17:39:34 <nizovn> i will have a look how to embed patches to doctors
Apr 15 17:40:46 <bbito> Awesome! I'm happy to help if I can!
Apr 15 17:41:04 <Preemptive> So getting help and perhaps even making some instructions on the process will hopefully kick start this project, which be really useful when reactivatiing devices.
Apr 15 17:41:16 <Preemptive> Shall we move on?
Apr 15 17:41:26 <bbito> Sounds great
Apr 15 17:41:40 <Preemptive> 4.5. Fix the webos internals patch feed or manage it manually. (novaldex, Herrie) http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-patches/326893-webosinternals-patch-portal-down.html#post3450982
Apr 15 17:42:02 <Preemptive> I don't know if either of them are here...
Apr 15 17:42:34 <Preemptive> I think the project is bogged down by the complexity of auto-checking code.
Apr 15 17:42:46 <Preemptive> ...so we'll move on...
Apr 15 17:43:20 <Preemptive> 4.6. webOS Nation App gallery submission and access. (Preemptive) https://forums.webosnation.com/webosnation-com-site-news-feedback-help/332000-app-gallery-issue-reporting-thread.html#post3452882
Apr 15 17:44:32 <Preemptive> I don't think I 've seen any response on this. Not even any replies to the thread to confirm or deny the current state.
Apr 15 17:45:59 <Preemptive> I suppose I could try to ask the mod if I can have a developer account...?
Apr 15 17:46:46 <Preemptive> But I'm not sure if it's even possible to login. Another option might be to find out who originally coded the app gallery and ask for a favour...
Apr 15 17:47:15 <Preemptive> I'll look into it. Moving on...
Apr 15 17:47:33 <Misj> just ask. and maybe it will be useful
Apr 15 17:47:58 <Preemptive> Yes.
Apr 15 17:48:24 <Preemptive> 4.7. Preservation / Restoration of sources of documentation* (including original Palm documents, Open WebOS, git.webos-internals.org & 3rd party sources such as webOS101). http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/331800-documentation-management-thread-webos-user-group.html
Apr 15 17:48:38 <JVLebbink> got to go
Apr 15 17:48:42 <JVLebbink> Bye!
Apr 15 17:48:55 <Misj> bye
Apr 15 17:49:09 <Preemptive> JVLebbink: Thanks for dropping in!
Apr 15 17:50:08 <Preemptive> Er, actually the only thing left under here is 4.7.1. Documentation Policy. I doubt there's anything here, but of anyone has any thoughts...?
Apr 15 17:51:35 <Preemptive> One thing that has come up, (I was going to mention later) is the webOS OSE release from LG. They want developer's to get on board, so there is a forum.
Apr 15 17:52:27 <Preemptive> It's not Legacy webOS obviously, but there are similarities, so questions about webOS caould be answered by LG's team over there.
Apr 15 17:52:38 <bbito> Seems like webos-ports is getting some outreach from LG - very cool!!!
Apr 15 17:52:58 <Preemptive> http://forum.webosose.org/
Apr 15 17:53:24 <Preemptive> Yes... Could be significant! Or not.
Apr 15 17:53:40 <Preemptive> So let's get on.
Apr 15 17:53:43 <Misj> I hope OSE and LuneOS will embrace eachother
Apr 15 17:54:15 <bbito410> http://forum.webosose.org/t/lg-watch-urbane-lte/287/9
Apr 15 17:54:31 <Misj> would be good to have some LG backing (in LuneOS). and I think OSE is the only way that will happen.
Apr 15 17:55:08 <Misj> But I don't know how much LuneOS n
Apr 15 17:55:24 <Misj> advances by OSE
Apr 15 17:56:01 <Preemptive> Well, as long as the benefit is mutual. The webOS Ports people have put in a lot of work. If the project gets fresh code and technical support, that's good, but if they just end up as unpaid workers on an LG project, maybe not so good. I don't wish to sound cynical...
Apr 15 17:56:27 <Misj> (still a bit 'off' due to my illness....hence my beautiful grasp to language :) )
Apr 15 17:57:20 <Preemptive> Misj: The core code has seen updates by LG and is now being incorporated into LuneOS. But it is not a large number of packages inrelation to LuneOS as a whole.
Apr 15 17:58:33 <Preemptive> I think webOS OSE is very 'barebones'. I don't think it does anything much. The idea is for it to be built out to new applications - much like AOSP I guess.
Apr 15 17:58:49 <Preemptive> 4.8.  Lobbying TCL for an open Palm device. (Preemptive) http://forums.webosnation.com/other-os-s-devices/331778-tcl-launching-new-palm-branded-devices-2018-a.html#post345119
Apr 15 18:00:47 <Preemptive> Again, i must apologise - no real progress. I think this needs a bit of focus. I was looking into it last week and I think the projects we could contact are: Halium, Plasma, UB Ports and maybe Sailfish, depending on theur attitude to hardware (they sort of build there own, but it hasn't gone great for them.
Apr 15 18:00:59 <Preemptive> *their own
Apr 15 18:01:26 <Preemptive> Oh, and PostmarketOS
Apr 15 18:01:44 <Preemptive> Can anyone else think of other active mobile OS projects?
Apr 15 18:02:25 <Preemptive> I think we are looking for non-Android projects
Apr 15 18:02:33 <bbito> errr, I don't follow these projects...
Apr 15 18:02:59 <Preemptive> You want links?
Apr 15 18:03:18 <Herrie> Sorry seems i'm again late to party
Apr 15 18:03:28 <bbito> no, just answering your question about other options
Apr 15 18:03:28 <nizovn> i also heard about tizen and kaios, but not sure it would help
Apr 15 18:03:46 <nizovn> i mean ^ these oses
Apr 15 18:04:47 <Preemptive> Hmmm... I hadn't considered Tizen I guess as I assumed they had big backers in the form of Samsung. (Tizen is to Samsung as webOS is to LG)
Apr 15 18:05:19 <Preemptive> am I right in thinking that KaiOS is basically FirefoxOS / boot to Gecko?
Apr 15 18:05:30 <nizovn> yes, seems so
Apr 15 18:05:38 <Preemptive> Herrie: Hi!
Apr 15 18:06:04 <Preemptive> Yes, I suppose there's no reason not to rope them in.
Apr 15 18:07:46 <Preemptive> https://www.plasma-mobile.org/ , https://ubports.com/ , https://halium.org/ Halium is basically build a common base for other OSes to build on, so i thought they could help.
Apr 15 18:07:49 <Herrie> We're in the process of trying to integrate OSE parts into LuneOS, however since they did a big code drop without any change history it's a bit challenging
Apr 15 18:07:59 <Herrie> But we'll get thre
Apr 15 18:08:20 <Herrie> From the 85 components, we use 30 already so those are "good to be upgraded". From other 55 we need to see what to do with them
Apr 15 18:08:22 <Misj> how useful is OSE to luneos
Apr 15 18:08:24 <Herrie> Some might be of use
Apr 15 18:09:43 <Preemptive> I may as well raise an element in the room as we discuss a TCL Palm phone. Should we also lobby LG to make a device available for development? Perhaps that is better coming form LuneOS as webOS OSE already seem eager to work with them.
Apr 15 18:10:54 <Preemptive> Some ho i manged to type element instead of elephant. This is a phrase about not mentioning something very big and obvious 9like an elephant in the room)
Apr 15 18:11:02 <Herrie|Pre3> misj: Well the 30 components are  good to upgrade, basically means 4 years of internal LG upgrades to core OS
Apr 15 18:11:47 <Herrie|Pre3> From the other 55 there are some useful and some less useful things. We had some own work in some of the 30 components that need redoing.
Apr 15 18:12:06 <Herrie|Pre3> OSE is more useful for LuneOS then for anything else :P
Apr 15 18:12:26 <Misj> I assume LuneOS has had a slightly different upgrade focus. What kind of components should I think about here...
Apr 15 18:12:50 <Herrie|Pre3> OSE released by LG is not very useful in it's current state for anyone due to it being very barebone.
Apr 15 18:13:10 <Herrie|Pre3> Most importantly all luna bits, so luna-service etc
Apr 15 18:13:16 <Preemptive> Although this is a bit off-topic, I was planning to raise this for discussion later, so please continue and we'll leave item 4.8 for now.
Apr 15 18:13:21 <Herrie|Pre3> With improved security mode
Apr 15 18:15:26 <Misj> does sound interesting
Apr 15 18:15:43 <Preemptive> Ok. If that's covered, I'm going to skip 4.9 as JVLebbink has left.
Apr 15 18:15:58 <Preemptive> 4.10 webOS Qt5 SDK.
Apr 15 18:16:25 <Herrie> Upgrade paths diverged but not too much tbh
Apr 15 18:16:39 <Herrie> We didn't do a whole lot of code changes to core bits released in Open webOS
Apr 15 18:16:47 <Preemptive> nivozn: Did anything happen here as part of your Qupzilla development?
Apr 15 18:16:49 <Herrie> Our changes were merely fixes to it and new bits
Apr 15 18:17:22 <nizovn> i plan to upgrade Qt5 to 5.9.5 so that it would make SDK simpler
Apr 15 18:17:33 <nizovn> want to hardcode webos specific paths etc
Apr 15 18:17:56 <nizovn> Preemptive: not for now
Apr 15 18:18:42 <nizovn> but other developers can already use my qt5 package from feed
Apr 15 18:19:07 <Preemptive> OK. We have something to look forward to. Are you looking for collaboration on this project?
Apr 15 18:19:24 <nizovn> any help is welcomed
Apr 15 18:19:48 <Preemptive> Great, I'll try to raise awareness. We'll move on.
Apr 15 18:20:18 <Preemptive> 4.11. webOS time service issue http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331734-network-time-not-keeping-clocks-accurate.html
Apr 15 18:20:49 <Preemptive> I think this has basically been solved. Has anyone tried it?
Apr 15 18:21:49 <Preemptive> Also, I assume it would be easy to add a patch to the Service pack meta-doctor?
Apr 15 18:21:59 <bbito> I've only tried the HOSTS version of the fix, not the script
Apr 15 18:22:58 <Preemptive> bitto: Yes, me too - it turns out the phone is fine with the network operator time service, but it worked well for me on the TP (non-4G)
Apr 15 18:23:07 <bbito> For addition to meta-doctor, I think it would be run as a post-install script
Apr 15 18:23:47 <bbito> ...not sure if if can be made into a 'normal' patch...
Apr 15 18:23:48 <Preemptive> bitto: I think I added it to the list on the thread - I try to keep on top of these little things! ;-)
Apr 15 18:24:32 <bbito> Herrie: any ideas on that?
Apr 15 18:26:59 <bbito> Herrie: looks like you already addressed: https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331734-network-time-not-keeping-clocks-accurate-2.html#post3453002
Apr 15 18:27:41 <Herrie> I can put a binary patch even in the doctor
Apr 15 18:27:43 <Herrie> Just need to find time
Apr 15 18:27:48 <Herrie> That's the issue mainly
Apr 15 18:28:23 <Preemptive> Herrie: So are you saying it HAS to be a pot-install script?
Apr 15 18:28:36 <Preemptive> *post-install
Apr 15 18:28:38 <Herrie> No, it can just be a binary patch that needs to be run before repackaging
Apr 15 18:28:54 <Preemptive> OK. Thanks.
Apr 15 18:29:16 <bbito> Herrie: ideally it should be configurable for your local pool address
Apr 15 18:29:53 <Preemptive> bbito: Good point. So user-input is likely necessary.
Apr 15 18:30:24 <Preemptive> But won;t a binary patch require compilation?
Apr 15 18:30:26 <bbito> e.g.: hu.pool.ntp.org, us.pool.ntp.org, etc.
Apr 15 18:30:37 <Preemptive> JayCanuck: Hi!
Apr 15 18:30:42 <JayCanuck> Hi!
Apr 15 18:30:47 <Herrie> Not really
Apr 15 18:30:54 <Herrie> You can just patch a binary file
Apr 15 18:31:02 <Herrie> I.e. change the address in binary
Apr 15 18:31:08 <Herrie> It's there in plain text
Apr 15 18:31:48 <Preemptive> Herrie: That's true. I suppose it's such a minor change, that it's not difficult to do in binary,
Apr 15 18:33:11 <Preemptive> JayCanuck: We're getting near the end. The agenda is here: https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-events/331758-webos-user-s-online-meet-up-5.html#post3453060
Apr 15 18:33:37 <Preemptive> JayCanuck: Here is the log http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos.txt
Apr 15 18:33:57 <Preemptive> OK. Let's move on.
Apr 15 18:34:07 <Preemptive> 5. Discussion of other items.
Apr 15 18:34:40 <Preemptive> I'm going to skip 5.1. unless anyone objects.
Apr 15 18:35:17 <Preemptive> Also 5.2 I'm not aware of any recent fixes and there is a reporting thread to list these.
Apr 15 18:35:42 <Preemptive> 5.3. App stores discussion. https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/329621-making-another-app-store.html#post3452863
Apr 15 18:36:48 <bbito> Preemptive: I have no thoughts on 5.3
Apr 15 18:37:34 <Preemptive> Now we have the webOS Museum project. I have previously posted a suggestion about linking up with the RebbleOS people on a combined app store. There is another possibility now of course: Will there be a webOS OSE app store? In other words could LG offer a facility that would be usable by us?
Apr 15 18:38:11 <Preemptive> I dount there's an answer yet, I'm just raising the question!
Apr 15 18:38:26 <Preemptive> *doubt
Apr 15 18:39:56 <Herrie> I doubt that LG will release a store
Apr 15 18:39:56 <Preemptive> I also saw this, but don't know how relevant it might be:
Apr 15 18:39:59 <Preemptive>  https://project.hubzilla.org/page/hubzilla/hubzilla-project#discover
Apr 15 18:41:11 <Preemptive> Herrie: Why do you think they won't? I would think it useful for the developers the want to attract, though that doesn't mean it will be useful to us.
Apr 15 18:42:28 <Preemptive> Hubzilla connects to social networks like discord and Mastodon but also has cloud storage abilities, so a distributed app stor might be possible. https://project.hubzilla.org/page/hubzilla/hubzilla-project#discover
Apr 15 18:44:16 <Preemptive> Herrie: I assume there is a TV app store. They could maybe add a developer channel. I'm not saying this is a good solution, just wondering about the possibility.
Apr 15 18:46:22 <Preemptive> I can move on if no one has any more thoughts on this...?
Apr 15 18:47:45 <Preemptive> 5.4. Prioritisation of group projects.
Apr 15 18:48:45 <bbito> Meta-doctor is highest priority for me, but unfortunately that doesn't mean I make progress
Apr 15 18:49:48 <Preemptive> This was about maintaining focus and not getting spread too thin, but I think we sort of arrived at a consensus that everyone got on with what they wanted to do in the time they had available and it wasn't really possible to 'manage' things, so it's largely a matter of prioritising the agenda for these meetings depending on what has beed accomplished.
Apr 15 18:50:02 <Preemptive> *been
Apr 15 18:50:24 <Preemptive> Any comments? Or shal I move on?
Apr 15 18:51:19 <Preemptive> 5.5. LG's webOS Open Source Edition
Apr 15 18:51:22 <Preemptive> http://webosose.org/
Apr 15 18:52:32 <Preemptive> We may have already covered most of this under other headings now, but if anyone has any general comments or observations in relation to the maintenance of Legacy webOS or the developmetn of LuneOS, now is your chance.
Apr 15 18:53:13 <bbito> As I mentioned earlier, I'm excited that LG has reached out to webos-ports and I hope they reward the valuable work done by that group with some technical assistance, etc.
Apr 15 18:53:58 <Preemptive> bbito: Agreed.
Apr 15 18:54:07 <Misj> I also hope this is not just a 'jump' but an actuall effort on LG's part
Apr 15 18:54:29 <Misj> jump = dump
Apr 15 18:54:39 <Misj> (nog that I expect them to stop developing webOS for their TV's)
Apr 15 18:55:14 <Misj> nog = not (wow, my language skills are really great today)
Apr 15 18:56:38 <Preemptive> Misj: I need to read what I typed before hitting enter also!
Apr 15 18:56:48 <Preemptive> OK, so item 6..
Apr 15 18:56:57 <Preemptive> 6. Any other business.
Apr 15 18:57:32 <mazzinia> uh... I guess I'm a bit late
Apr 15 18:57:36 <Preemptive> I'd just like to raise the point that there are new places for discussion and information.
Apr 15 18:57:48 <Preemptive> mazzinia: Zarquon? Is that you?
Apr 15 18:58:07 <mazzinia> who's zarquon ? :P
Apr 15 18:58:43 <Preemptive> mazzinia: http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Zarquon
Apr 15 18:59:19 <mazzinia> ahah, ages since I read that book
Apr 15 18:59:52 <Preemptive> I've joined (as pivotCE) a couple of things - JayCanuck might like to mention his discord portal for webOS dev and there is a mastodon started by Andolamin.
Apr 15 19:00:19 <Preemptive> https://webos.direct
Apr 15 19:01:11 <bbito> Preemptive: link for discord?
Apr 15 19:01:14 <Preemptive> Unfortunately (or fortunately if you like that sort of thing) it's mainly pictures of birds due to the presence of a Project Macaw developer
Apr 15 19:01:29 <JayCanuck> Ah yes, an unofficial webOS OSE dev discord https://discord.gg/HrqXb
Apr 15 19:02:19 <JayCanuck> All welcome. Casual dev atmosphere
Apr 15 19:02:40 <Preemptive> JayCanuck: Thanks
Apr 15 19:04:38 <Preemptive> Yes, so both quiet at the moment but might be useful for discussion - especially if more people join in. Also we should not forget the webOS OSE forum.
Apr 15 19:05:01 <Preemptive> Shall we wrap up with a date for next month?
Apr 15 19:05:08 <Preemptive> 7. Date of next meeting.
Apr 15 19:05:52 <Preemptive> (also, if you want to alter the time - I know many of us have now had a daylight saving adjustment)
Apr 15 19:07:16 <Preemptive> the 13th seems OK for me
Apr 15 19:07:43 <Preemptive> Maybe not the 20th - apparently there's a wedding (not the royal one!)
Apr 15 19:07:59 <bbito> I'll be travelling ~10th - 15th
Apr 15 19:08:06 <Preemptive> 27th?
Apr 15 19:08:15 <Preemptive> Looks free  to me.
Apr 15 19:08:27 <Misj> I'm free (as far as I can tell right now)
Apr 15 19:08:29 <bbito> Ya, 27th looks good
Apr 15 19:08:44 <Preemptive> is the 27th good for everybody?
Apr 15 19:09:07 <nizovn> ok for me
Apr 15 19:09:42 <Preemptive> Same time?
Apr 15 19:10:40 <bbito> Same time or earlier for me
Apr 15 19:10:41 <Misj> 7 o'clock Dutch time worked for me today... :)
Apr 15 19:11:22 <Preemptive> OK. So the next meeting will be on the 27th of May at 1700GMT (check https://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ for your local time)
Apr 15 19:12:18 <bbito> Preemptive: thanks for all your prep work and hosting
Apr 15 19:12:21 <Preemptive> So there seems to be a lot of buzz around webOS in general at the moment and we can hope that will be a net positive for the projects we support.
Apr 15 19:12:34 <bbito> buzz?
Apr 15 19:13:12 <Preemptive> bbito: BUZZ Positive BUZZ! Say it with me! ;-0
Apr 15 19:14:10 <Preemptive> Thanks for coming everybody. I'm off to test the new QupZilla browser. see you on the forumes and everywhere else!
Apr 15 19:14:22 <bbito> bye
Apr 15 19:14:41 <Preemptive> bbito: Bye!
Apr 15 19:14:43 <nizovn> bye!
Apr 15 19:14:50 <Preemptive> nizovn: Bye!
Apr 15 19:14:52 <Misj> bye
Apr 15 19:14:59 <Preemptive> Misj; Bye!
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