**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 19 03:00:02 2018 Jul 19 13:26:18 hi all Jul 19 14:17:31 oh helo Jul 19 14:17:49 normally here is totally silent :P Jul 19 14:18:06 oh haha, I'll be quiet then ;) Jul 19 14:18:18 :P:P Jul 19 14:18:30 that's ok, just saying :P Jul 19 14:30:02 I'll just keep talking Jul 19 14:30:13 bughi1980: are you a wedOS user or old time fan? Jul 19 14:33:23 mmmm depends what old time is for you. if 2011 qualifies, I guess both Jul 19 14:33:49 otherwise just user :P Jul 19 14:34:50 hahah Jul 19 14:34:52 oops Jul 19 14:34:55 I had a typo Jul 19 14:34:59 webOS* Jul 19 14:35:22 I guess webOS really isn't /that/ old Jul 19 14:35:42 don't think so Jul 19 14:35:47 2009 I guess Jul 19 14:35:55 I meant it more like: are you currently using or did you use to use it Jul 19 14:36:39 currently using Jul 19 14:36:58 phone, since 2011, and tablet Jul 19 14:38:28 what about you ? Jul 19 14:40:25 I'm a user :) Jul 19 14:40:31 Currently using a Pre 3 Jul 19 14:40:58 ah, same phone :p Jul 19 14:43:19 nice! Jul 19 14:43:41 I've only been using it since about January Jul 19 14:43:47 and I love it Jul 19 14:45:31 I'm thinking about getting a TP to Jul 19 14:45:33 too* Jul 19 14:46:41 that's going to be a bit more usable than the phone, overall Jul 19 14:47:11 in part for the option to install more os, and in part for the availability of a modern browser Jul 19 14:48:21 QupZilla!!!! Jul 19 14:48:29 yup Jul 19 14:49:08 the phone starts to suffer from the old webkit. at least personally i cannot login anymore to captive portals of public wifi Jul 19 14:49:08 I think I'll get one Jul 19 14:49:21 neither can I! Jul 19 14:49:22 haha Jul 19 14:49:28 I just get a white screen Jul 19 14:49:44 yep Jul 19 14:50:41 Yeah, having qupzilla on the pre would be awesome Jul 19 14:51:03 but supposedly is too heavy as memory requirements Jul 19 14:51:41 :( Jul 19 14:51:50 I know there was talk about patching the standard browser Jul 19 14:51:56 I wonder how doable that is Jul 19 14:52:59 I think it could be doable, since the installed webkit is under a directory with the version number. it's in theory possible to put a different one alongside Jul 19 14:53:11 but has always been unclear how to invoke the alternate Jul 19 14:53:34 it should be possible , but is not documented Jul 19 14:54:05 Hmm, I see. Jul 19 14:55:32 That would be awesome Jul 19 14:55:47 I really do love the webOS and Pre experience Jul 19 14:56:28 as I think we all do, even if to be honest the whole pre line, hardware wise, was a bit... on the cheap side Jul 19 14:56:58 Yes, it was Jul 19 14:57:07 just take the camera of the pre3... i had a 10000 times better camera in the phone I used during 2006 Jul 19 14:57:43 hahahaha Jul 19 14:57:47 the camera sucks Jul 19 14:57:55 luckily I don't usually need one Jul 19 14:58:13 I just really like the format factor Jul 19 14:58:22 small, keyboard Jul 19 14:58:29 fits in the hand nicely Jul 19 14:58:37 tells me I'm beauiful Jul 19 14:58:41 beautiful* Jul 19 14:59:21 the form factor is sort of perfect :P Jul 19 14:59:29 it's hard to slip it, too Jul 19 15:01:33 it really is! Jul 19 15:01:53 I've only dropped it once and that was because I was trying to hold it with my cheek & shoulder Jul 19 15:02:58 I'm really hoping that TCL does something decent Jul 19 15:03:11 I would take something Pixi-like Jul 19 15:03:38 Small with keyboard and open hardware <3 Jul 19 15:03:46 That would be a dream come true! Jul 19 15:07:48 I would not held my breath about tcl Jul 19 15:08:13 I'm not. but it would be cool! Jul 19 15:09:54 mazzinia: Do you know if the Pixi Plus is still usable daily? Jul 19 15:10:07 like can you sync contacts and calendar with it still? Jul 19 15:10:40 I don't think that grabber's sync fix works with that version of webOS Jul 19 15:11:30 no idea, I've never seen/used one Jul 19 15:11:54 in italy all these things were never sold Jul 19 15:12:54 :o Jul 19 15:13:41 It's a candy-bar style phone Jul 19 15:13:46 Like a little blackberry Jul 19 15:26:27 I know Jul 19 16:42:22 mazzinia: I think I'm buying a TP Jul 19 16:42:57 should not be too hard to find one Jul 19 16:43:31 look if you find a deal with the wireless charger Jul 19 16:43:54 I found a few on ebay Jul 19 16:44:12 some are expensive (like retail price) and others are fairly cheap Jul 19 18:12:19 eheh Jul 19 18:59:12 I wish I could help more with legacy webOS stuff or even luneoS Jul 19 20:49:20 I switched back to a Veer today after my Pre3 decided to stop working with anything DB related Jul 19 20:49:29 Missed the little Veer :) Jul 19 20:49:39 Got most things working except for Macaw/Phnx Jul 19 20:49:47 Gives me white page while trying to add account :s Jul 19 20:49:59 hi Herrie Jul 19 20:50:06 I think we talked on twitter before Jul 19 20:50:09 :) Jul 19 20:50:20 Yes could very well be ;) Jul 19 20:50:30 I've been around in webOS land since late 2011 :P Jul 19 20:50:39 And doing quite some bits on LuneOS side too ;) Jul 19 20:51:43 Hmm, I see. Jul 19 20:51:57 Yeah, we've had brief conversation on twitter! Jul 19 20:52:05 I'm not really on twitter anymore Jul 19 20:52:17 So ye switched to the Veer? Jul 19 20:52:28 Is that still a fairly usable device? Jul 19 20:55:22 Just like the PRe3 Jul 19 20:55:40 Oh nice1 Jul 19 20:55:41 ! Jul 19 20:55:45 I don't use it for much more then email, phone, sms, alarm, music, Twitter Jul 19 20:55:49 And that all works Jul 19 20:55:59 Work email not anymore due to some specific requirements Jul 19 20:56:16 So have a work Android with WhatsApp and other fancy new things that can be useful :P Jul 19 20:56:19 I probably shouldn't use my Pre 3 with my work email, but I do anyways! Jul 19 20:56:40 LOL ;) Jul 19 20:56:54 Mine wokred till last year when we switched to new infrastructure Jul 19 20:56:57 But well Jul 19 20:57:39 I was trying to get my contacts and calendar syncing from my Posteo account, but alas. Jul 19 20:57:55 I was using the C+Dav syncer and it doesn't seem to work Jul 19 20:58:20 I think that's the only thing that's missing on mine Jul 19 21:00:13 oh, hello herrie Jul 19 21:03:44 Well, i'm off for now Jul 19 21:03:49 good chatting mazzinia Herrie Jul 19 21:04:11 nuclearkev: Like wise Jul 19 21:08:21 mazzinia: Hi! Jul 19 21:08:49 night Jul 19 21:08:53 and hi Jul 19 21:09:06 I'm off soon too Jul 19 21:09:09 Been a long day ;) Jul 19 21:09:12 the way you wrote about the pre3... doctoring doesn't work ? Jul 19 21:09:55 and, tomorrow luckily is friday :P Jul 19 21:12:41 mazzinia: Didn't bother yet Jul 19 21:12:44 Need to backup stuff etc Jul 19 21:12:53 And anyway wanted to setup a Veer for a long time already :P Jul 19 21:13:01 ahhh eheh Jul 19 21:13:08 I've never tried a veer Jul 19 21:13:11 Just Mrs and little ones left yesterday and at same time phone starting to misbehave Jul 19 21:13:15 So ideal time to switch :P Jul 19 21:13:19 Veer is really small :D Jul 19 21:13:21 :P:P:P Jul 19 21:13:31 And has slower CPU vs Pre 3 Jul 19 21:13:33 But well Jul 19 21:13:39 For the rest it's really nice :) Jul 19 21:13:52 Need to get used to smaller keys again but that'll be in a few days I'm sure Jul 19 21:13:57 Used to have a Veer for years Jul 19 21:14:04 Switched to Pre 3 about 2 years ago Jul 19 21:14:27 After Veer died (display cable will break after some time due to the slider) Jul 19 21:14:29 Same on Pre 3 Jul 19 21:14:33 Usually 2 or so years :P Jul 19 21:14:37 With my usage at least Jul 19 21:15:08 ah, I assumed that flaw was pre3 only, but I guess I assumed wrong Jul 19 21:16:09 No Veer too Jul 19 21:16:19 I had 2 or 3 Veers dying because of it Jul 19 21:16:34 Well they didn't die, but display backlight broke because of cable being broken Jul 19 21:16:40 isn't it avoidable with some tape ? Jul 19 21:19:16 Not sure Jul 19 21:19:23 Anyway got a few spare Veers still :P Jul 19 21:29:39 uh... you got that many ?? Jul 19 21:32:54 Well got a few for a very good price ;) Jul 19 21:33:01 I think I paid $25 each for new ones ;) Jul 19 21:33:06 So well ;) Jul 19 21:37:23 whaaaaaaaa Jul 19 21:37:32 ( envyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ) Jul 19 21:53:35 Anyway time for bed ;) Jul 19 21:53:39 Till another time ;) Jul 19 21:56:07 nighty **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 03:00:00 2018