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Apr 28 18:41:28 <Eearslya> I'm..really surprised there still seems to be an active community behind this. I just had nostalgia hit me and I went and got myself a Pre+ and hopefully a Pre2 soon; I expected everything to be buried under years of internet rubble...
Apr 28 19:22:28 <bughi1980> hi
Apr 28 19:22:51 <bughi1980> we're still alive (even if maybe not really kicking :P )
Apr 28 19:46:15 <Eearslya> I do have one question, though; I've managed to get ahold of a 3.0.5 SDK, but the 2.1.0 SDK link is broken (even with the HOSTS update). Will the 3.0.5 SDK work to make apps for 2.2.4 and such?
Apr 28 20:41:04 <Eearslya> Also, is it at all possible to get an unlocked EU Pre2 onto a US carrier?
Apr 28 20:57:21 <bughi1980> no, these are 2 separate things, the sdks
Apr 28 20:57:28 <bughi1980> at least if I'm not mistaken
Apr 28 20:59:44 <bughi1980> I should have all the sdks, need to remember where
Apr 28 21:01:12 <bughi1980> found
Apr 28 21:01:55 <bughi1980> where do you want it ?
Apr 28 21:02:10 <bughi1980> I can transfer it using irc, too
Apr 28 21:05:51 <Eearslya> Not sure if irssi supports DCC but we can give it a go; I was looking for the 2.1 SDK in .deb if you've got it, otherwise the windows is fine too
Apr 28 21:07:19 <bughi1980> it's the vmdk file. i think the installer is just the 3.0.5
Apr 28 21:07:25 <bughi1980> then you add the various vm
Apr 28 21:08:06 <Eearslya> Oh no, I've got the VMDKs, I mean the actual SDK installers
Apr 28 21:08:08 <Eearslya> https://webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_SDK_Versions#Linux_8
Apr 28 21:08:13 <Eearslya> That's the one failing for me
Apr 28 21:09:01 <bughi1980> ah
Apr 28 21:09:04 <bughi1980> mmm
Apr 28 21:09:43 <bughi1980> so this ? palm-sdk_3.0.5-svn528736-pho676_i386.deb
Apr 28 21:10:04 <Eearslya> I have the 3.0.5 deb, will that work to package apps for 2.2.4?
Apr 28 21:10:37 <bughi1980> as I said, i think you then add the vmdks
Apr 28 21:11:06 <bughi1980> the virtual machines contain the required things for each version
Apr 28 21:11:39 <Eearslya> Oh good
Apr 28 21:12:34 <bughi1980> at least i think. others here can confirm or deny
Apr 28 22:35:00 <Eearslya> How are Pre2s doing these days, anyway? From what I've read it seems like the biggest issue is losing sites to TLS1.2
Apr 29 00:54:49 <pcworld> Eearslya: there's a userspace proxy for that
Apr 29 00:55:09 <pcworld> Eearslya: https://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps-games/332506-squid-ssl-bump.html
Apr 29 01:00:43 <pcworld> Eearslya: I suppose the 3.0.5 .deb SDK should be sufficient. Packaging apps can still be done with palm-package. Not sure whether for the PDK (compiling native binaries) you need an earlier SDK to link libs. If you need the PDK I might have the 2.2.4 SDK lying around somewhere.
Apr 29 01:02:09 <Eearslya> That'd be great! I'm still waiting on the Pre+ which should be here Thursday, and not sure when I'll get the Pre2. Haven't managed to set up the emulator yet either.
Apr 29 01:03:02 <Eearslya> Do you know if an EU Pre2 will work with US carriers, by chance?
Apr 29 01:24:23 <pcworld> I don't know whether they use the same frequencies and stuff
Apr 29 01:29:43 <Slothman21> https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3007
Apr 29 01:30:05 <Slothman21> there's a little bit of info if you click the "more details" in "modes"
Apr 29 01:31:18 <Slothman21> it's possible they have all those modes, and it lists which mode is for which continent, but the inverse is possible as well.
Apr 29 01:32:41 <Eearslya> Hmm, Google Fi seems to list the requirements as "bands 2 AND 4" so I'm skeptical
Apr 29 01:32:52 <Eearslya> But having it as a wifi only device wouldn't be the end of the world for me
Apr 29 02:50:56 <Eearslya> https://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-2/271429-how-do-i-check-what-frequencies-my-pre-2-runs.html this also seems to indicate that it won't support any US bands, either; rip
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