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Jun 02 18:26:49 <bughi1980> Hello
Jun 02 18:27:16 <bughi1980> there's an emergency ongoing
Jun 02 18:28:04 <bughi1980> a pre3 user is in deep s@@t, and a consultation ( vs being just me trying to help her ) would be advisable
Jun 02 18:28:27 <bughi1980> if someone is online to read, ping
Jun 02 18:28:55 <pcworld> hi, what's the issue?
Jun 02 18:29:01 <bughi1980> hello
Jun 02 18:29:10 <bughi1980> well, seems the classical one... water
Jun 02 18:29:53 <bughi1980> "? I did let it sit with the back off and battery out, in a container with a silica gel pack (they say it works better than rice) but i probably should have waited longer. I don't know if it won't turn on now just because my battery is probably dead for sitting too long, or if i totally ruined it. Another tech guy said the noise was probably the speaker shorting out. Dp you know if you plug the phone into a
Jun 02 18:29:53 <bughi1980> charger without the battery, would it turn on? "
Jun 02 18:30:20 <bughi1980> this is what I got
Jun 02 18:30:51 <bughi1980> I think all the possible damage already happened, so maybe is worth trying to see if it can be booted
Jun 02 18:31:13 <bughi1980> my only idea ( to suggest ) is just to put the battery, plug the charger, cross fingers
Jun 02 18:31:34 <bughi1980> and try the 3R manouver to see if it starts the boot
Jun 02 18:32:08 <nizovn> i'm here too
Jun 02 18:32:14 <bughi1980> hello
Jun 02 18:32:22 <nizovn> hi
Jun 02 18:32:40 <nizovn> i dropped pre3 into water for 2 sec once
Jun 02 18:33:01 <nizovn> it then turned off itself
Jun 02 18:33:39 <nizovn> pulled battery out and put into rice for a day
Jun 02 18:33:45 <pcworld> to be honest I don't really have a clue about the hardware :/
Jun 02 18:33:58 <bughi1980> she tried to boot it when likely not totally dry yet, and it got stuck on logo ( dim ) then the light sensor got fixed, nd that's all
Jun 02 18:34:23 <bughi1980> but apparently when she tried after, didn't show any sign, even a sparkle of light
Jun 02 18:35:46 <bughi1980> I know from personal experience that if the crc of the code related to actually turning on the thing gets messed up, the 3R trick done a few times recovers it
Jun 02 18:35:54 <nizovn> i would try it turn it on yes, if battery was out or phone was off, it shouldn't discharge
Jun 02 18:35:56 <bughi1980> I had issues due to magnetic fields, 3 times
Jun 02 18:36:45 <bughi1980> battery was out , as far as she wrote. but it's the same battery that was failing quite badly already ( end of life )
Jun 02 18:36:46 <nizovn> ah you mean *without* battery, i don't know, but doubt
Jun 02 18:37:11 <bughi1980> no, I doubt it would start without a battery, too
Jun 02 18:37:33 <bughi1980> but her battery was dying already. the water may have even killed it for good
Jun 02 18:37:40 <bughi1980> ( the battery, I mean )
Jun 02 18:39:13 <pcworld> not sure if that's what you mean, but afaik Pre3 turns on with just USB without a battery
Jun 02 18:39:18 <pcworld> at least into recovery mode
Jun 02 18:41:19 <bughi1980> oh it does ?
Jun 02 18:41:29 <bughi1980> mmm
Jun 02 18:42:18 <nizovn> i got usb broken much faster then battery..
Jun 02 18:42:45 <bughi1980> I'm at 2 batteries... if sumi doesn't answer soon i'm going to cry
Jun 02 18:42:58 <bughi1980> the last battery lost, likely, the internal info
Jun 02 18:43:06 <bughi1980> so first was overcharging
Jun 02 18:43:27 <bughi1980> nd now it just lasts randomly
Jun 02 18:44:01 <pcworld> bughi1980: I don't have my Pre3 with me, just tried with my Pre2 though, turning it on with just USB attached shows a battery symbol with a question mark inside it
Jun 02 18:44:24 <bughi1980> ah makes sense. it would require a battery to boot
Jun 02 18:44:42 <bughi1980> but she should be able to get that, at least
Jun 02 18:45:43 <pcworld> I don't seem to get into recovery mode without battery though
Jun 02 18:47:27 <bughi1980> ..
Jun 02 18:47:30 <bughi1980> "i tried this that you said twice in a matter of a minute or two, kept it plugged in a few min more, and unplugged it
Jun 02 18:47:30 <bughi1980> i'm so torn from knowing it came back after falling in the washing machine before, and it should now, and wanting to try some things, and leaving it ALONE and sending it to the shop. I just wish so bad I had another battery to see if it would actually work with a charged one.
Jun 02 18:47:30 <bughi1980> "
Jun 02 18:47:33 <bughi1980> errrrr
Jun 02 18:48:01 <bughi1980> I'm a bit scared... do you think she means this is the 2nd time, and one time it got i nthe washing machine ???
Jun 02 18:48:07 <bughi1980> .......
Jun 02 18:48:12 <bughi1980> rip pre3, I think
Jun 02 18:49:19 <pcworld> well if it can survive a washing machine
Jun 02 18:49:47 <bughi1980> it can survive 2 times ?
Jun 02 18:50:14 <bughi1980> I've just asked ( a bit worried about the answer I'll get )
Jun 02 19:12:09 <bughi1980> ok
Jun 02 19:12:11 <bughi1980> "this is the second water accident, the first was probably 2 yrs ago and it came back ok after like 2 days or so, but the battery life was much better then and this battery was probably was low before it fell into the shower, so....
Jun 02 19:12:12 <bughi1980> I'm just wondering why the shop says DONT try to turn it on or anything
Jun 02 19:12:12 <bughi1980> "
Jun 02 19:12:34 <bughi1980>  how can a phone fall into a shower ?
Jun 02 19:15:36 <pcworld> maybe listening to music while showering or so :P (but there are other issues with that)
Jun 02 19:16:45 <bughi1980> yeh... like this is not a water resistant phone like the ones they sell since a few years...
Jun 02 19:16:53 <bughi1980> as main issue
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