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Jun 16 07:50:56 <bughi1980> @herrie , if you happen to hear sumi by chance, please remind him about emailing
Jun 16 07:56:54 <Herrie> bughi1980: I know he's busy moving to a new place or will be shortly, but can remind him
Jun 16 07:57:08 <bughi1980> thanksssss
Jun 16 07:58:02 <bughi1980> I've moved back to the original battery, but that was getting unreliable too when I changed it ( still is better than the newer i guess)
Jun 16 07:58:45 <bughi1980> and there's a strange behaviour happening with it, too... he is the expert and may know how to fix that
Jun 16 07:58:48 <Herrie> He's actually replying now on Skype ;)
Jun 16 07:59:13 <bughi1980> aka, once is charged, goes directly to discharge at -2xx
Jun 16 07:59:26 <bughi1980> ( with the charger/stone )
Jun 16 07:59:36 <bughi1980> ( I mean plugged )
Jun 16 07:59:38 <bughi1980> oh
Jun 16 08:02:26 <Herrie> "i have tested another 10 of batteries and plan to reply by weekend"
Jun 16 08:02:41 <bughi1980> thanksssss
Jun 16 08:02:57 <bughi1980> does he have any idea about that weird charging behaviour ?
Jun 16 08:03:28 <bughi1980> the phone should stop once reaching 100% , not start a deep discharge cycle ( while on stone or charger plugged )
Jun 16 08:04:16 <bughi1980> I thought it was due to the battery getting bad, but it's doing it even with the older battery
Jun 16 08:04:52 <bughi1980> ( mind me, maybe it did it normally the same on the old battery once getting troublesome, 4y ago. just i don't remember )
Jun 16 08:08:54 <Herrie> It could be aligning on the Touchstone somehow
Jun 16 08:08:58 <Herrie> It's not great for the Pre3
Jun 16 08:09:36 <Herrie> I have my battery charging indicator switching on/off when at 100% with my Veer when not properly aligned
Jun 16 08:12:31 <bughi1980> mmmm
Jun 16 08:12:56 <bughi1980> but it's not like that. it's properly charging until reaching 100%
Jun 16 08:13:09 <bughi1980> then it straight goes to drain to 0
Jun 16 08:14:01 <bughi1980> it started doing this with the faulty battery ( it was also going past capacity ), but I ignored it since I assumed it was caused by the faulty battery itself
Jun 16 08:14:31 <bughi1980> but I see it happening ( the drain once reaching 100 ) also with the original battery that I kept
Jun 16 08:15:22 <bughi1980> ( but in this case I do not remember, after 4 years, if that battery itself developed "that" behaviour at that time , so I cannot say if it may be normal in a weird way )
Jun 16 08:15:50 <Herrie> I noticed that batteries are acting funny after a while
Jun 16 08:15:56 <Herrie> Mine also would quickly discharge etc
Jun 16 08:16:00 <Herrie> After years of use
Jun 16 08:16:21 <bughi1980> so it could be a normal thing due to the 2 batteries having issues
Jun 16 08:16:23 <Herrie> Seems after x number of cycles they simply lose capacity (as shown by Dr. Battery) and get quite unreliable
Jun 16 08:16:39 <Herrie> I had it with multiple Veer batteries and some Pre 3 batteries
Jun 16 08:16:39 <bughi1980> well, losing capacity is normal
Jun 16 08:16:47 <Herrie> TP batteries seem to hold up pretty OK for me
Jun 16 08:16:59 <bughi1980> the Go's battery is reliable, too
Jun 16 08:17:11 <bughi1980> even if it shows losing a bit of capacity
Jun 16 08:17:31 <bughi1980> ( I wonder if "spares" can be found.. is a thing I wanted to ask sumi )
Jun 16 08:18:35 <Herrie> I have some spares in case you need
Jun 16 08:19:02 <bughi1980> oh well, maybe the charging circuit is less affected by heath (prolonged) in a tp form factor than in the smaller format of the phones
Jun 16 08:19:10 <bughi1980> oh really ?
Jun 16 08:22:14 <bughi1980> at the moment the installed one is at 3160 calculated left vs 3853 of manufacturing rating
Jun 16 08:22:39 <Herrie> Also you're likely to put more charging cycles into the phone due to Touchstone
Jun 16 08:22:42 <bughi1980> considered it has never been turned off since 2011.. I would say it outperform...
Jun 16 08:22:52 <bughi1980> same goes for the Go
Jun 16 08:22:55 <Herrie> Yeah I should have quite some Go batteries laying around
Jun 16 08:23:03 <Herrie> Need to find my box with it just
Jun 16 08:23:07 <bughi1980> has been charged 90% of the times on stone
Jun 16 08:23:13 <bughi1980> or 98%
Jun 16 08:23:27 <bughi1980> I can count the times in 8/9 years, when I used the cable
Jun 16 08:23:40 <Herrie> I got a ton of TP Go's from TaoBao back in the days and made working ones from broken ones
Jun 16 08:23:46 <Herrie> So have a few spare batteries I guess
Jun 16 08:23:53 <bughi1980> ahahah
Jun 16 08:24:19 <bughi1980> back then Iwanted to take a batch of backs, there were 6 or 7 for 5 euo in total
Jun 16 08:24:30 <bughi1980> then something went off track, don't remember what
Jun 16 08:24:53 <bughi1980> brb
Jun 16 09:05:30 <bughi1980> back
Jun 16 09:05:54 <bughi1980> did you ever try to swap out the 3g card for a microsd adapter ?
Jun 16 09:07:13 <Herrie> No ;)
Jun 16 09:07:21 <Herrie> I only put the Sierra 7710 in there ;)
Jun 16 09:07:28 <bughi1980> ah :P
Jun 16 09:07:35 <Herrie> Speed way better vs Ericsson card ;)
Jun 16 09:07:51 <bughi1980> well, I can bet :P
Jun 16 09:08:19 <Herrie> Old article, speeds might be better now even: https://pivotce.com/2014/01/27/the-search-for-real-4g-on-the-touchpad/
Jun 16 09:09:26 <Herrie> I did the test when 4G just got "mainstream" in NL
Jun 16 09:20:30 <bughi1980> "might be better" would still mean that you didn't feel differences ( in an obvious way )
Jun 16 09:36:46 <Herrie> To be honest I haven't been out and about to test like that anymore with the Go
Jun 16 11:32:18 <bughi1980> ah well, was just curiosity. i've never really used the cellular side of it
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