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Aug 23 06:21:48 <rwhitby> rrix: welcome.
Aug 23 06:21:48 <rrix> Suddenly everything makes more sense, lol
Aug 23 06:22:08 <rwhitby> it's much quieter in here. we don't allow end-users.
Aug 23 06:22:23 <rrix> Right. I always wondered how you guys got work done in there...
Aug 23 06:22:23 <rwhitby> this will be the best place to discuss ideas with dtzWill and myself
Aug 23 06:22:51 <rrix> Ok
Aug 23 06:22:57 * rrix dredges up his patches
Aug 23 06:23:48 <rrix> I have, so far, a oneliner for the xterm build makefile: http://fpaste.org/MzR4/
Aug 23 06:24:57 <rrix> along with xterm-launcher patch http://fpaste.org/MzR4/ which adds the tweaks json file and some nasty bashmagick to xecutah.sh
Aug 23 06:25:16 <rrix> woop, that patch has some extras, it looks liek
Aug 23 06:25:35 <rrix> http://fpaste.org/s8J3/ <==
Aug 23 06:25:56 <rrix> dtzWill suggested this earlier today and I rolled with it, so it's more about implementation details than anything else.
Aug 23 06:26:02 <rrix> Parsing luna-send in bash sucks
Aug 23 06:27:16 <rwhitby> luna-send has another switch for more machine-readable output
Aug 23 06:27:41 <rwhitby> try -f
Aug 23 06:27:55 <rwhitby> or maybe not. might be easier without it
Aug 23 06:28:10 <rwhitby> rrix: anyway, yeah, send me your ssh key
Aug 23 06:28:27 <rrix> Ok, incoming
Aug 23 06:30:33 * rrix fires up touchpad emu
Aug 23 06:33:08 <rrix> That's... a little better
Aug 23 06:33:16 <rwhitby> rrix: key added.  git@git.webos-internals.org:subdir/repo.git
Aug 23 06:33:18 <rrix> Still requires some bashmagick to parse though
Aug 23 06:33:24 <rrix> Yepperdo
Aug 23 06:33:59 <rrix> Should I push these or wait for dtzWill 's feedback?
Aug 23 06:35:39 <rrix> well, slightly nicer, let's try that bashmagick
Aug 23 06:35:53 <rrix> after I handle some gsoc stuff really quickly
Aug 23 06:36:50 <ka6sox> is that still happening now?
Aug 23 06:37:06 <rrix> Final evaluations are this week
Aug 23 06:37:15 * rrix has to go prod some mentors to evaluate their students :(
Aug 23 06:47:00 <rrix> well, that's nice -f output gets mangled in my shell script :\
Aug 23 06:49:33 <rrix> I just suck at bash actually.
Aug 23 06:49:37 * rrix shuts up and goes to make coffee
Aug 23 06:53:34 <ka6sox> rixx, where are you?
Aug 23 06:53:38 <ka6sox> east coast?
Aug 23 06:53:46 <rrix> ka6sox: Arizona
Aug 23 06:54:08 <rrix> rwhitby: while you're tweeting about the fakesites, probably want to retweet this, too, just in case. https://twitter.com/trsohmers/status/105876389697290240
Aug 23 06:54:41 <rrix> I have android followers in Phoenix, but not enough to keep a scumbag like that from making some money :\
Aug 23 06:54:46 <rwhitby> rrix: nah, anyone who trusts anything on craigslist deserves what they get
Aug 23 06:55:00 <rrix> lol, this is true
Aug 23 06:56:10 <rrix> yeah, coffeetime
Aug 23 07:36:22 <error454> Does the preware build machine have scratchbox installed?
Aug 23 07:41:04 <error454> I need to build a complicated project and I always use sb2, would it be enough to alias the compiler commands to the cross compiler equivalents and run make?  Headed to bed, will check livelogs tomorrow.
Aug 23 07:41:59 <rwhitby> unfortunately, this channel is not logged
Aug 23 07:59:43 <rrix> lol
Aug 23 08:30:18 <ka6sox-zzzz> do you want it logged?
Aug 23 08:31:48 <rrix> dtzWill: rwhitby: gonna push my changes tomorrow. Need to sleep and haven't trusted myself with git for a few hours now, lol
Aug 23 08:32:01 <rwhitby> rrix: no worries
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Aug 23 12:49:21 <PuffTheMagic> .
Aug 23 15:27:05 <dtzWill> rrix: yay you tweaks-ified it! :D
Aug 23 15:28:49 <ka6sox-zzzz> dtzWill, that looks like what we talked about 3-4months ago :D
Aug 23 15:29:12 <dtzWill> ka6sox-zzzz: haha, yep! only he actually did it \o/
Aug 23 15:29:53 <ka6sox> yes, unlike me...a lazy bastard who never does anything.
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Aug 23 18:44:26 <error454> Aug 23 07:41:59 <rwhitby> unfortunately, this channel is not logged
Aug 23 18:44:32 <error454> http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/wosi-dev.txt
Aug 23 18:44:49 <ka6sox> error454, that was fixed last night :D
Aug 23 18:45:01 <error454> haha
Aug 23 19:29:28 <rrix> rwhitby: dtzWill: I just pushed to preware/build and x11/xterm-launcher
Aug 23 23:21:22 <rwhitby> rrix: thanks for the patch. how do we prevent root command injection ?
Aug 23 23:24:10 <rrix> Oh, dag nabit
Aug 23 23:24:42 <rrix> rwhitby: I will look at that in five minutes after I get this Handspring Visor I found to boot
Aug 23 23:25:00 <PuffTheMagic> lol visor
Aug 23 23:25:07 <rrix> i know
Aug 23 23:26:09 <rwhitby> dtzWill: so should we do keyboard enable using a tweaks variable too?
Aug 23 23:27:13 <linuxjacques> mmmm, tweaks
Aug 23 23:28:27 <dtzWill> rwhitby: zomg that's so easy it's delicious
Aug 23 23:28:29 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 23 23:28:32 <dtzWill> suuure
Aug 23 23:28:37 <dtzWill> and while we're at it
Aug 23 23:28:40 <dtzWill> preferred keyboard size
Aug 23 23:28:41 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 23 23:28:47 <dtzWill> (including none)
Aug 23 23:40:50 <ka6sox> right...so that means FS for us BT Keyboarders...
Aug 23 23:43:35 <dtzWill> ka6sox: indeed, the build i made you is just changing a boolean flag
Aug 23 23:43:51 <dtzWill> the code was written with these features in minds, just never figured out a useful way to control the knob
Aug 23 23:44:00 <dtzWill> tweaks is nice b/c that means it's configurable, but not dynamically so
Aug 23 23:44:03 <dtzWill> which is probably fine
Aug 23 23:44:09 <dtzWill> (for now)
Aug 23 23:44:51 <rrix> I thought that showing the keyboard was compiled in
Aug 23 23:44:56 <rrix> That'd be awesome
Aug 23 23:45:56 <dtzWill> rrix: it is, i'm saying there's no reason it has to be
Aug 23 23:46:03 <dtzWill> and for those that asked i've been providing builds with it compiled out
Aug 23 23:46:41 <rrix> Ahh, nice
Aug 23 23:46:49 <rrix> Having it in tweaks would be a lot nicer :)
Aug 23 23:47:03 <dtzWill> and yeah, that's a good idea :)
Aug 23 23:52:39 <dtzWill> if someone can help me tweaks-ify it i can make the xserver interpret these as command line options
Aug 23 23:53:15 <rrix> I can do the tweaks end of it
Aug 23 23:53:37 <dtzWill> deson't tweaks need to understand the nature of the option?
Aug 23 23:53:38 <ka6sox> dtzWill, as it is now...when you create the xserver in xecutah it assigns the display=:0 right?
Aug 23 23:53:45 <dtzWill> ka6sox: yeppers
Aug 23 23:54:19 <ka6sox> good...then its a short put from there to multiple xservers in separate cards with apps.
Aug 23 23:54:46 <dtzWill> \o/
Aug 23 23:55:16 * ka6sox checks to see if xecutah is node or c service based.
Aug 23 23:55:36 <dtzWill> ka6sox: c, i believe?
Aug 23 23:55:58 <dtzWill> yep
Aug 23 23:56:51 <dtzWill> rrix: oh cool you define a tweaks file
Aug 23 23:56:53 <dtzWill> and it supports enums
Aug 23 23:56:54 <dtzWill> hooray
Aug 23 23:57:04 <dtzWill> errr "ListSelector", w/e
Aug 24 00:02:22 <dtzWill> -vkb {"off","xs","s","m","l"}?
Aug 24 00:06:14 <rrix> Yup
Aug 24 00:07:09 <dtzWill> (working on this while my 'real' work compiles ;))
Aug 24 00:08:03 <rrix> insert xkcd joke
Aug 24 00:08:07 * rrix goes to engrave his new knife
Aug 24 00:08:16 <dtzWill> rrix: exactly
Aug 24 00:08:25 <dtzWill> errr the xkcd part anyway ^.^
Aug 24 00:09:43 <dtzWill> anyone have that table of keyboard sizes somewhere?
Aug 24 00:16:13 * rrix sighs
Aug 24 00:16:19 <rrix> This place is so disorganized right now
Aug 24 00:16:28 * rrix decides to hack on stuff
Aug 24 00:16:43 <ka6sox> your space or us?
Aug 24 00:16:51 <rrix> My space
Aug 24 00:17:20 <rrix> Oh I gues I"m getting food
Aug 24 00:20:19 <dtzWill> L - 393, M - 340, S - 291, XS - 243
Aug 24 00:20:21 <dtzWill> for future reference
Aug 24 00:20:33 <dtzWill> via https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=16560
Aug 24 00:20:39 <dtzWill> idk if same across portrait/landscape, here's hoping
Aug 24 01:03:24 <dtzWill> YAY keyboard tweakification here we come
Aug 24 01:03:30 <dtzWill> (prelim testing of the -vkb option is a win)
Aug 24 01:09:37 <rwhitby> sweet
Aug 24 01:10:06 <rwhitby> dtzWill: I think we outline the keyboard mapping limitations (limited by the Palm keyboard) in the documentation and then do a public release.
Aug 24 01:10:57 <dtzWill> iirc there's something about bluetooth keyboards that doesn't work
Aug 24 01:11:06 <dtzWill> various keys, or something?
Aug 24 01:11:38 <ka6sox> arrow keys for sure.
Aug 24 01:12:00 <ka6sox> ctrl+() modifier doesnt' work either.
Aug 24 01:12:01 <dtzWill> ka6sox: do any of the arrow keys work?
Aug 24 01:12:09 <ka6sox> lemme check
Aug 24 01:12:24 <dtzWill> ka6sox: can you run Xsdl+xev and tell me if any of the bt keys that don't work generate events?
Aug 24 01:12:40 <dtzWill> my understanding is the up arrow crashes Xsdl, but i think the rest just don't do anything?
Aug 24 01:13:07 <ka6sox> okay...let me find out how to do that.
Aug 24 01:13:18 <dtzWill> although i'm not sure if the control modifier on bt should block public release or not--either way that'd be useful
Aug 24 01:17:54 <error454> Any preware environment Makefile ninjas in here?
Aug 24 01:18:26 <rwhitby> error454: HP hasn't assigned me a belt yet.
Aug 24 01:18:36 <error454> lol
Aug 24 01:19:24 <error454> rwhitby: I'm trying to determine the best way to build FFmpeg via this Makefile.  Typically I run sb2 and just run make, not sure how that translates to a cross-compile environment
Aug 24 01:21:35 <error454> If I could invoke scratchbox in the build it would be a lot easier
Aug 24 01:24:57 <rwhitby> error454: use the WIDK to build it, then drop the binary in a repo for inclusion in the build.git build
Aug 24 01:25:03 <rwhitby> see VBA for an example
Aug 24 01:25:48 <rwhitby> error454: note that we need the build process in the preware/cross-compile.git repo, validated by a third party, before we accept the built binary
Aug 24 01:26:09 <rwhitby> best we can do at the moment, unfortunately.
Aug 24 01:26:47 <error454> rwhitby: what's the difference between having the build in the cross-compile.git repo vs building it in the preware/apps/ffmpeg makefile?
Aug 24 01:27:16 * halfhalo wonders how hard it would be to get node being built and an ipk of it made.  WIDK built node is faster than palm-built node
Aug 24 01:27:39 <rwhitby> error454: autobuilder doesn't have sb2 set up
Aug 24 01:32:13 * rrix tr -cd '[:alnum:] [:space:]' 's the input to xecutah.sh
Aug 24 01:32:34 <rrix> rwhitby: stripping out all not-alnum and not-space characters should suffice, yah?
Aug 24 01:32:45 <rrix> I don't see why Tweaks values would need them.
Aug 24 01:33:18 <PuffTheMagic> .
Aug 24 01:33:21 <dtzWill> rrix: what now?
Aug 24 01:33:38 <rwhitby> rrix: if something needs more, we can incrementally add
Aug 24 01:33:58 <rrix> dtzWill: rwhitby reminded me that it's possible to inject in to xecutah.sh using Tweaks
Aug 24 01:34:18 <dtzWill> rwhitby: right, isn't that what you already did in xterm-launcher?
Aug 24 01:34:42 <dtzWill> errr
Aug 24 01:34:53 <dtzWill> s/rwhitby/rrix/
Aug 24 01:34:57 <dtzWill> :3
Aug 24 01:35:05 <rrix> No, I just stripped out all the json
Aug 24 01:35:34 <rrix> it'd still be possible to inject in to it by setting the value in the tweaks db to, like "; rm -rf /"
Aug 24 01:37:33 <dtzWill> ohhh i see. you're saying that it's a vulnerability b/c tweaks/something posing as tweaks could inject bad things?
Aug 24 01:37:40 <dtzWill> hrm.
Aug 24 01:37:51 <rrix> Right
Aug 24 01:37:55 <rrix> I just pushed a fix for that.
Aug 24 01:38:10 * rrix bbl
Aug 24 01:38:44 <rwhitby> dtzWill: I'm not sure if the tweaks service only responds to the app, so we may be overcautious
Aug 24 01:45:33 <rrix> can't hurt
Aug 24 01:46:11 <dtzWill> mmhmm
Aug 24 01:46:14 <error454> rwhitby: Does /srv/preware/cross-compile/ exist on the build machine?
Aug 24 01:48:29 <rwhitby> no
Aug 24 01:50:02 <error454> What should I point sys-root and prefix to then?
Aug 24 01:55:48 <rwhitby> error454: you do the cross-compile.git build yourself
Aug 24 01:56:29 <ka6sox> up,down,left,right keys on the TP keyboard do NOT crash X
Aug 24 01:57:00 <ka6sox> its ignoring the ctrl+{} and returning the base key code
Aug 24 01:57:16 <ka6sox> so a ctrl+a is 61 and so is a
Aug 24 01:57:16 <dtzWill> rrix: http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/commit/?id=3c7c4087409599a9e3a87a6f834b4c77e738b371
Aug 24 01:57:29 <dtzWill> i think that second path should be ...tweaks.prefs/preferences
Aug 24 01:57:34 <dtzWill> ka6sox: oh damn
Aug 24 01:57:44 <dtzWill> okay then idk if they send 'control' modifier, i'll have to inspect it myself later
Aug 24 01:57:56 <dtzWill> (or figure something out)
Aug 24 01:58:02 <dtzWill> if it worked then i could've hooked up bindings
Aug 24 01:58:07 <dtzWill> ka6sox: tyvm, useful information.
Aug 24 01:58:22 <ka6sox> still mapping...gimme a few more minutes
Aug 24 01:58:25 <dtzWill> rrix: i'm following your tweaks changes as a guide ;)
Aug 24 01:58:27 <dtzWill> ka6sox: kk :)
Aug 24 01:58:35 <ka6sox> I have a tail on the capture file.
Aug 24 02:01:51 <dtzWill> rrix: only mentioning it instead of fixing, b/c i've never done tweaks stuff myself
Aug 24 02:02:39 <rrix> Did i bork my commit?
Aug 24 02:03:17 <dtzWill> rrix: nbd, i just wasn't sure
Aug 24 02:03:29 <rrix> By jove you're right
Aug 24 02:03:35 * rrix was using http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Tweaks#Sample_JSON_File as a guide
Aug 24 02:03:56 <dtzWill> oh, also annoyingly enough it's in testing/xterm
Aug 24 02:03:56 <ka6sox> okay dtzWill it appears as if Luna sucks up ctrl/symbol/the *entire* top row
Aug 24 02:03:57 <rrix> How do I test build Makefiles?
Aug 24 02:04:01 <dtzWill> not testing/x11-xterm-launcher
Aug 24 02:04:27 <rrix> wait what?
Aug 24 02:04:37 <dtzWill> rrix: in preware/build.git
Aug 24 02:04:52 <dtzWill> rrix: and yes, the we /were/ all on drugs when we architected that.
Aug 24 02:05:00 <rrix> I'm so confuzzled
Aug 24 02:05:05 <dtzWill> jokes aside, that's an artifact of switching a few times
Aug 24 02:05:08 <dtzWill> rrix: sorry :(
Aug 24 02:05:24 <dtzWill> the preware/build.git change you made
Aug 24 02:05:24 <rrix> why would you do that ;)
Aug 24 02:05:33 <dtzWill> was to testing/x11-xterm-launcher/Makefile
Aug 24 02:05:44 <dtzWill> and i'm saying that's outdated for ..lameness reasons
Aug 24 02:05:45 <rrix> I guess it's my fault I didn' read the logs first
Aug 24 02:05:50 <dtzWill> and should be in testing/xterm/Makefile
Aug 24 02:05:54 <rrix> Ok
Aug 24 02:06:09 <dtzWill> rrix: i'm okay with you making the 'mistake' of thinking we had that structured reasonably
Aug 24 02:06:17 <dtzWill> tbh i'm not sure why it's still there at this point, think for legacy devices
Aug 24 02:06:27 <rrix> Should it be in build target or postinst target while I'm in here?
Aug 24 02:06:38 <rrix> brb, quick work scrum
Aug 24 02:06:59 <rrix> eh, nevermind, I don't have anything to report
Aug 24 02:07:21 <dtzWill> haha
Aug 24 02:07:45 <rwhitby> dtzWill: please move the legacy packages to the obsolete dir
Aug 24 02:07:54 <rwhitby> dtzWill: since we know this works on all devices now
Aug 24 02:08:33 <dtzWill> errr
Aug 24 02:08:34 <dtzWill> does it?
Aug 24 02:08:34 <dtzWill> kk
Aug 24 02:08:51 <dtzWill> rrix: if you're making changes, lmk--and lmk when you're done.
Aug 24 02:08:58 <rrix> just pushed, I'm done
Aug 24 02:09:12 <dtzWill> (imagine what you're doing is quick and i wanna avoid odd merge changes with you editing files ijust moved away)
Aug 24 02:09:12 <rrix> in preware/build
Aug 24 02:09:12 <dtzWill> hehe
Aug 24 02:09:12 <dtzWill> kk
Aug 24 02:09:17 <dtzWill> perfect,ty
Aug 24 02:09:21 <ka6sox> dtzWill, I am done with this...
Aug 24 02:09:25 <ka6sox> I can send you the file if you want.
Aug 24 02:09:39 <dtzWill> ka6sox: great, that'd be wonderful. webos@wdtz.org
Aug 24 02:09:44 <ka6sox> got it.
Aug 24 02:12:19 <dtzWill> guess i should tag xterm then
Aug 24 02:13:38 <dtzWill> rrix: you want to be credited, and is 'rrix' preferred?
Aug 24 02:15:15 <dtzWill> go go gadget package building
Aug 24 02:15:18 <dtzWill> sigh i broke the usb on my desktop
Aug 24 02:15:19 <dtzWill> >_>
Aug 24 02:15:58 <dtzWill> well to be clear, and defend my honor, i had a usb cord plugged into front and a friend stepped on it while intoxicated
Aug 24 02:16:04 <dtzWill> but result is i can't reliably novaterm anymore
Aug 24 02:16:07 * dtzWill wants novassh
Aug 24 02:16:12 <dtzWill> palm-install-via-ssh
Aug 24 02:19:46 <rrix> dtzWill: That's fine yup
Aug 24 02:20:04 <rrix> I take it it works? (I don't know how to test preware/build
Aug 24 02:20:05 <dtzWill> rrix: kk
Aug 24 02:20:11 <dtzWill> rrix: not exactly, but close enough. testing atm.
Aug 24 02:20:22 <dtzWill> not exactly==build-wise, i'll let you konw about the actual tweaksness shortly
Aug 24 02:20:37 <rrix> meep
Aug 24 02:20:51 <dtzWill> rr==roadrunner?
Aug 24 02:21:01 <rrix> haha
Aug 24 02:22:09 <dtzWill> does xterm usually take a second to show up?
Aug 24 02:22:18 <dtzWill> i guess since we force the user to hop around, doesn't really hurt
Aug 24 02:22:19 <dtzWill> :P
Aug 24 02:22:20 <rrix> Thereabout. luna-send has a delay, though.
Aug 24 02:22:34 <rrix> about .5 - .75 second by my count
Aug 24 02:22:34 <dtzWill> yeah, taht's waht i was concerned with.
Aug 24 02:22:47 <dtzWill> kk, and that seems to be what i'd guess it to be from informal/quick testing
Aug 24 02:22:47 <rrix> It did do two calls to luna-send in my first version, that sucked
Aug 24 02:22:48 <dtzWill> mmmkay
Aug 24 02:22:51 <dtzWill> ah
Aug 24 02:22:52 <dtzWill> haha
Aug 24 02:23:23 <rrix> I'm not sure there's much we could do about that .5-.75 though..
Aug 24 02:23:35 <ka6sox> dtzWill, will email that when I get home...class time now
Aug 24 02:23:43 <dtzWill> rwhitby: does preware's install package option (the manual install) run the postinst?
Aug 24 02:23:48 <dtzWill> ka6sox: glhf :)
Aug 24 02:24:08 <rwhitby> dtzWill: yep
Aug 24 02:24:39 <dtzWill> mkay
Aug 24 02:24:52 <dtzWill> ended up with a file having 000644 appeneed to it, weird.
Aug 24 02:25:26 <dtzWill> hmm, again.
Aug 24 02:25:31 <rrix> bwah
Aug 24 02:25:40 <dtzWill> rrix: almost certainly not your fault, gimme a sec
Aug 24 02:25:47 <dtzWill> i'm debuggin more out-loud than i should ^.^
Aug 24 02:26:33 <rrix> hehe, no worries
Aug 24 02:26:41 <dtzWill> ...the hell??
Aug 24 02:26:41 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 24 02:26:44 <dtzWill> >.<
Aug 24 02:26:56 <rrix> If it was my fault there's something more confusing with y'all's build process than I thought... :)
Aug 24 02:27:05 <rwhitby> dtzWill: that happens if you build on osx and the pathnames are too long
Aug 24 02:27:22 <dtzWill> well i don't have osx :(
Aug 24 02:27:33 <dtzWill> hrm
Aug 24 02:27:42 <dtzWill> so you're saying if i push this than the autogbuilder won't have that problem? :3
Aug 24 02:27:42 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 24 02:28:01 <dtzWill> but the pathnames is a good candidate for being too long
Aug 24 02:29:44 <rrix> I should probably set up a dualboot or get WIDK working in Fedora instead of hating on VMs all day long
Aug 24 02:32:06 <dtzWill> rrix: i'm getting xterm launched with things lke -fg lue and -bg lac
Aug 24 02:32:52 <rrix> o.O
Aug 24 02:33:01 * rrix reinstalls from git
Aug 24 02:33:13 <dtzWill> well i cna give you luna-send results
Aug 24 02:33:18 <dtzWill> and we can fix the tr/cut stuff?
Aug 24 02:34:29 * rrix has luna-send stuff, looking at things right now
Aug 24 02:35:28 <rrix> http://privatepaste.com/95e9cee5c2
Aug 24 02:35:39 <dtzWill> here i get 'lue'
Aug 24 02:35:39 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 24 02:35:41 <rrix> http://privatepaste.com/7f5a31f508
Aug 24 02:35:42 <dtzWill> by 'here'
Aug 24 02:35:42 <dtzWill> i mean
Aug 24 02:35:43 <dtzWill> on the tp
Aug 24 02:35:44 <rrix> :\
Aug 24 02:35:51 <rrix> let me fire up ssh
Aug 24 02:37:05 <dtzWill> rrix: http://privatepaste.com/e9e2a7951c
Aug 24 02:37:26 <dtzWill> lol wtf
Aug 24 02:38:29 <dtzWill> oh, the device dosen't support those [:alnum:][:space:] things
Aug 24 02:39:03 <dtzWill> does seem to support a-zA-Z0-9
Aug 24 02:39:21 <dtzWill> (do we want spaces, anyway?)
Aug 24 02:39:22 <rrix> fraaaah
Aug 24 02:39:25 <rrix> busybox :(
Aug 24 02:39:42 <dtzWill> hehe yep
Aug 24 02:39:48 <dtzWill> (i'll fix)
Aug 24 02:40:29 <rrix> Ok
Aug 24 02:41:15 <rrix> o.O i can't ssh to my touchpad on this wifi anyways
Aug 24 02:41:53 <dtzWill> actually, brackets don't work either
Aug 24 02:42:09 <dtzWill> so tr -cd 'a-zA-Z0-9'
Aug 24 02:42:09 <rrix> sed isn't a part of busybox is it?
Aug 24 02:43:31 <dtzWill> maybe, but this works for now.
Aug 24 02:43:41 <dtzWill> rwhitby: any thoughts on wth is going on with this 0000644 thing?
Aug 24 02:44:21 <rrix> sed is a part of busybox, but it'd probably work
Aug 24 02:44:28 <rrix> just sed out anything evil
Aug 24 02:46:41 <dtzWill> sigh, stupid 0000644 being appended to the filename
Aug 24 02:48:41 <jacques> looks like permissions mask
Aug 24 02:48:54 <rrix> yah
Aug 24 02:49:08 <dtzWill> i hear y'all, but why is that appended :(
Aug 24 02:49:33 <dtzWill> it's definitely not in the .tar
Aug 24 02:49:36 <dtzWill> ustar format?
Aug 24 02:49:43 <rrix> woot, derped my ubuntu chroot
Aug 24 02:51:11 <rwhitby> dtzWill: I believe it's something in the OSX tar
Aug 24 02:51:30 <dtzWill> rrix: okay looks like this works
Aug 24 02:51:40 <dtzWill> only issue is this packaging thing :/
Aug 24 02:51:53 <rwhitby> dtzWill: I know that building on linux always fixes that problem
Aug 24 02:51:54 <dtzWill> rwhitby: hmm, okay. i'm not running osx, i'll look into it.
Aug 24 02:52:03 <rwhitby> dtzWill: what are you building on?
Aug 24 02:52:03 <dtzWill> i'm on linux. maybe it's my tar ^.^
Aug 24 02:52:10 <dtzWill> rwhitby: linux, but not the ubuntu we expect.
Aug 24 02:52:13 <dtzWill> strange, very.
Aug 24 02:52:35 <dtzWill> rrix, rwhitby: should the ubuntu xterm deal be updated as well?
Aug 24 02:52:37 <dtzWill> tweaks-ified?
Aug 24 02:52:45 <dtzWill> or do we expect people to use that and launch their own things, or.....?
Aug 24 02:52:53 <rrix> hmmm
Aug 24 02:52:57 <rrix> I don't see how adding it could hurt
Aug 24 02:53:14 <rwhitby> yeah, please add it, using the same tweaks values
Aug 24 02:53:30 <rrix> The exact same ones, or different keys?
Aug 24 02:53:37 <rrix> er, you know what I mean
Aug 24 02:53:40 <dtzWill> rrix: same, i think.
Aug 24 02:53:42 <rwhitby> same
Aug 24 02:53:43 * rrix nods
Aug 24 02:54:04 <dtzWill> well here goes nothing
Aug 24 02:54:04 <dtzWill> lol
Aug 24 02:54:44 * rrix injects values in to dtzWill 's tweaks db
Aug 24 02:55:06 <dtzWill> rrix: lol
Aug 24 02:55:12 <dtzWill> rrix: how's that?
Aug 24 02:55:27 <rrix> magick or something.
Aug 24 02:55:36 <dtzWill> anyway, maybe solutoin is for the chroot wrapper deal to invoke same xterm deal
Aug 24 02:55:48 <dtzWill> meh guess i could just copy the tweaks code lol
Aug 24 02:57:49 <rrix> ... my touchpad is redownloading the ubuntu chroot image at 580b/s ~_~
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