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Jan 07 03:00:28 <dtzWill> but so instead of telling TTF to render the text to a new surface with alpha antialiasing data
Jan 07 03:00:28 <PuffTheMagic_> Brybry: whats your last name?
Jan 07 03:00:38 <dtzWill> then doing GL stuff to blit background
Jan 07 03:00:57 <Brybry> Kearney
Jan 07 03:01:03 <PuffTheMagic_> thanks
Jan 07 03:01:08 <dtzWill> then blitting the surface on top of that (after incorrectly setting glColor)
Jan 07 03:01:11 <PuffTheMagic_> updating a contributors list on the readme
Jan 07 03:01:18 <Brybry> no problem
Jan 07 03:01:22 <dtzWill> instead just tell TTF to render the font with the specified foreground/background >_>
Jan 07 03:01:42 <dtzWill> saves in a number of ways, try a performance test and see for yourself
Jan 07 03:01:52 <PuffTheMagic_> i get the idea
Jan 07 03:02:04 <dtzWill> kk
Jan 07 03:02:50 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: wterm is fast :D
Jan 07 03:02:52 <PuffTheMagic_> i love it
Jan 07 03:03:04 <dtzWill> :D
Jan 07 03:03:06 <PuffTheMagic_> old wterm was slow as balls
Jan 07 03:04:27 <PuffTheMagic_> hmm wait a sec
Jan 07 03:04:42 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: i dont think i should have merged 1 of your commits
Jan 07 03:04:48 <dtzWill> eeek
Jan 07 03:04:56 <dtzWill> sorry, i might've messed that up i'm sorry
Jan 07 03:05:01 <PuffTheMagic_> https://github.com/PuffTheMagic/wTerm/commit/b35d3928f989492dfd6e4431a6e043a9c5b2f9b3
Jan 07 03:05:03 <dtzWill> i tried to rebase it for you but maybe that was a bad idea
Jan 07 03:05:09 <PuffTheMagic_> this totally breaks themes
Jan 07 03:05:13 <dtzWill> oh
Jan 07 03:05:15 <dtzWill> errr
Jan 07 03:05:15 <dtzWill> what
Jan 07 03:05:24 <dtzWill> no it doesn't?
Jan 07 03:05:28 <dtzWill> try it, and tell me it does?
Jan 07 03:05:45 <PuffTheMagic_> u harded coded a color didnt you?
Jan 07 03:05:49 <dtzWill> no
Jan 07 03:05:57 <dtzWill> and that thought
Jan 07 03:06:03 <dtzWill> is exactly why that commit exists
Jan 07 03:06:10 <dtzWill> b/c the existing code makes you think it has anything to do with any color
Jan 07 03:06:20 <dtzWill> the text of the commit further explains
Jan 07 03:06:55 <dtzWill> and that glColor only applies to the surfaces below it
Jan 07 03:07:04 <dtzWill> which are images, with their own well-defined RGB values
Jan 07 03:07:17 <dtzWill> that are entirely separate from any terminal color or terminal color lookup table
Jan 07 03:07:25 <dtzWill> certainly not with a multiplicabtive relation
Jan 07 03:08:27 <PuffTheMagic_> i guess you are right
Jan 07 03:08:30 <PuffTheMagic_> sorry to doubt u
Jan 07 03:09:02 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: Brybry you guys are listed now on https://github.com/PuffTheMagic/wTerm as contributors
Jan 07 03:11:48 <dtzWill> \o/ ty
Jan 07 03:13:20 <PuffTheMagic_> so sdlterminal uses bright backgrounds for bright text
Jan 07 03:13:23 <PuffTheMagic_> it drives me nuts
Jan 07 03:13:37 <PuffTheMagic_> i need to add an option to always use dark backgrounds
Jan 07 03:13:46 <PuffTheMagic_> i started the prefs for it
Jan 07 03:13:56 <PuffTheMagic_> just need to add a plugin call to set this behavior
Jan 07 03:14:04 <PuffTheMagic_> and then adjust the graphics mode code
Jan 07 03:15:07 <dtzWill> err what's the problem?
Jan 07 03:15:21 <PuffTheMagic_> look at the color test
Jan 07 03:15:28 <PuffTheMagic_> some terminals do this, some dont
Jan 07 03:15:38 <PuffTheMagic_> but when the foreground text is set to "bright"
Jan 07 03:15:45 <PuffTheMagic_> the background is also a brighter color
Jan 07 03:15:49 <dtzWill> oh
Jan 07 03:15:50 <PuffTheMagic_> i would say most dont do this
Jan 07 03:15:50 <dtzWill> >.<
Jan 07 03:15:58 <PuffTheMagic_> but sdlterminal does
Jan 07 03:16:02 <PuffTheMagic_> and thus wterm does
Jan 07 03:16:14 <PuffTheMagic_> but i am adding an option to set this behavior
Jan 07 03:16:31 <PuffTheMagic_> background is either "Always bright", "Always dark", "Both"
Jan 07 03:16:57 <PuffTheMagic_> just run mc
Jan 07 03:17:02 <PuffTheMagic_> using the default theme
Jan 07 03:17:03 <dtzWill> no you're totally right
Jan 07 03:17:06 <dtzWill> and it's obnoxious
Jan 07 03:17:08 <PuffTheMagic_> and u will see how fugly it is
Jan 07 03:17:13 <dtzWill> and i'm glad you're giving it attention
Jan 07 03:17:56 <PuffTheMagic_> i really have to wonder how people used the orig sdlterminal
Jan 07 03:18:05 <PuffTheMagic_> i guess people were just glad  it "worked"
Jan 07 03:18:48 <dtzWill> well considering one guy went and did all that (i think?) that's pretty cool
Jan 07 03:19:05 <PuffTheMagic_> well ya, he did do a lot
Jan 07 03:19:27 <PuffTheMagic_> but what he did was the easy part (sorta)
Jan 07 03:19:54 <PuffTheMagic_> idk GL to save my life so i am very happy he use that as a backend
Jan 07 03:20:08 <PuffTheMagic_> cause sdlterm (a non GL sdl terminal) was fucking slow
Jan 07 03:20:15 <PuffTheMagic_> and so was wterm when it used html5 canvas
Jan 07 03:20:35 <PuffTheMagic_> and terminus was prob slow ( inever really uzed it cause it sucked)
Jan 07 03:20:52 <PuffTheMagic_> and i never really used terminal (w/ termplugin)
Jan 07 03:26:39 <Brybry> I bet it could be done decently fast in non-GL/software sdl with dirty rects
Jan 07 03:26:51 <PuffTheMagic_> highly doubt it
Jan 07 03:27:02 <PuffTheMagic_> the overhead computing those
Jan 07 03:29:09 <dtzWill> dirty lines might help
Jan 07 03:29:42 <dtzWill> (or i guess any other pre-defined rect dirty tracking)
Jan 07 03:29:53 <dtzWill> but lines are neatly robust to scrolling
Jan 07 03:30:09 <dtzWill> redrawing when changing 2 chars is indeed unfortunate
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