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Aug 16 08:24:28 <bluelightning> morning all
Aug 16 14:52:58 <dvhart> morning all
Aug 16 15:02:05 <bluelightning> hi dvhart
Aug 16 15:05:04 <bluelightning> technical meeting not happening today as well?
Aug 16 15:05:18 <dvhart> bluelightning, it has dropped off my calendar
Aug 16 16:52:02 <Arial700> I dont know why... GUI is not starting and I 'm getting dropped into shell. Used poky-image-sato ! Help !!
Aug 16 17:09:15 <Arial700> anybody know that.. Plz help me
Aug 16 17:37:25 <zeddii> Arial700,  which machine, which branch ?
Aug 16 18:13:34 <Arial700> zeddii, Arm
Aug 16 18:13:51 <Arial700> zeddii, I was away.. sorry for late reply
Aug 16 18:49:28 <Arial700> zeddii, ??
Aug 16 18:57:38 <zeddii> sorry. didn't notice the message.
Aug 16 18:57:47 <zeddii> so this is qemuarm, out of a recent master ?
Aug 16 19:06:39 <Arial700> zeddii,  i didnt get this "out of a recent master ?"
Aug 16 19:07:49 <Arial700> zeddii, Though I used poky-image-sato , i didnot get that gui of sato. Only got splash screen while booting and I pressed alt+f1 which dropped me into terminal
Aug 16 19:10:15 <zeddii> Arial700. I'm just trying to determine if you are building out of  a particular release vs the dev branches (master).
Aug 16 19:11:04 <Arial700> zeddii, ya stable release only.. I did not include any dev branches
Aug 16 19:12:04 <zeddii> hmm. so there are no changes happening there.
Aug 16 19:12:23 <zeddii> and I know this worked before.
Aug 16 19:12:39 <zeddii> anything showing in dmesg ? have you tried manually starting X ?
Aug 16 19:13:33 <Arial700> zeddii, It didnt work at all ! :( till now!
Aug 16 19:13:58 <Arial700> I 'll post the dmesg and can u tel me how to start x manually
Aug 16 19:15:18 <zeddii> I need to do a build and try a boot to say for sure.
Aug 16 19:16:11 <Arial700> zeddii, in Alt+f2 screen it said failed to create Avahi client
Aug 16 19:16:27 <Arial700> zeddii, is that anything related to that??
Aug 16 19:17:50 <Arial700> zeddii, Ohk.. I 'll try again to recompile and generate another image ! And try
Aug 16 19:18:08 <Arial700> Will be back tomorow :-)
Aug 16 21:27:41 <khem> for core-image-minimal its building 2622 tasjs
Aug 16 21:27:49 <khem> it used to be less
Aug 16 21:28:00 <khem> I see it building x11 and gnome bits
Aug 16 21:28:22 <khem> did someone observe this bloat
Aug 16 21:29:34 <ant__> here 1775, pull of yesterday
Aug 16 21:30:07 <ant__> only oe-core + meta-zaurus fwiw
Aug 16 21:30:23 <khem> is that for core-image-minimal ?
Aug 16 21:31:03 <ant__> yes
Aug 16 21:32:11 <khem> hmmm that was with uclibc let me see what it reports with eglibc
Aug 16 21:34:30 <ant__> NOTE: Running task 1775 of 1775 (ID: 12, /oe/oe-core/meta/recipes-core/images/core-image-minimal.bb, do_rm_work_all)
Aug 16 21:35:04 <ant__> I'm testing a multimachine build, until now all fine
Aug 16 21:36:11 <khem> can you update to latest oe-core and see ?
Aug 16 21:36:40 <khem> 2719 for eglibc here
Aug 16 21:43:30 <ant__> sure, just a few mins
Aug 16 21:47:25 <sgw> khem: I had noticed an increase recently also, I wonder if it has to do with the x11 changes.  RP and I are at LinuxCon this week so responses will be a little slow.
Aug 16 21:47:30 <sgw> I am going to check this also
Aug 16 21:49:28 <ant__> khem: and I have extra stuffs to build (klibc, kexecboot, linux-kexecboot)
Aug 16 21:49:41 <ant__> so th etasks could even be less
Aug 16 21:50:00 <khem> I do not have any layers its just oe-core
Aug 16 22:05:15 <ant__> khem: still 1775
Aug 16 22:06:40 <ant__> only eglibc-initial-2.13-r13+svnr14157 was updated apparently
Aug 16 22:07:28 <incandescant> khem: do you have an old local.conf? there may have been changes affecting EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES and there used to be a few of those turned on by default
Aug 16 22:13:57 <sgw> incandescant: I saw a bump in the number of tasks recently, I am also reviewing some old  builds I have
Aug 16 22:15:05 <incandescant> sgw: and you have a clean/new local.conf?
Aug 16 22:17:48 <sgw> incandescant: yes
Aug 16 22:18:02 <incandescant> that rules that theory out
Aug 16 22:18:13 <sgw> I have know about that issue for a while
Aug 16 22:28:55 <khem> incandescant: possible
Aug 16 22:29:11 <khem> incandescant: it was same local.conf which generated less tasks
Aug 16 22:29:15 <khem> I can regenerate it
Aug 16 22:29:55 <incandescant> khem: sgw indicates it's not the issue, but you could just check if there are any EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES entries
Aug 16 22:34:49 <khem> incandescant: I dont add any
Aug 16 22:35:01 <khem> incandescant: I only change -j flags thats all
Aug 16 22:35:29 <incandescant> khem: right, but there used to be some enabled by default - and if you have those their content may or may not have changed
Aug 16 22:35:31 <sgw> khem: what is in your EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES line?
Aug 16 22:42:38 <khem> EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES="tools-debug tools-profile tools-testapps debug-tweaks"
Aug 16 22:44:26 <incandescant> debug-tweaks is the only one enabled by default now, each of the tools- entries adds packages to the image
Aug 16 22:45:41 <khem> ok
Aug 16 22:45:52 <sgw> khem: right you just need debug-tweaks, also I just double checked an arm build from 6 days ago and today, they are both 1372 tasks.
Aug 16 22:46:18 <khem> sgw: since I want to build those I will keep them in
Aug 16 22:47:28 <incandescant> if you're building for x86 it may be pulling in X and what not for some of the debug tools like lttng-gui
Aug 16 22:47:41 <khem> I am building for arm and mips
Aug 16 22:47:54 <khem> number is almost same
Aug 16 23:06:07 <incandescant> for qemuarm w/oe-core I see 1371 tasks
Aug 16 23:09:50 <khem> incandescant: yes seems I have more stuff being built
Aug 16 23:10:03 <khem> which is fine since I am needing that atleast
Aug 16 23:32:23 <ant__> btw
Aug 16 23:32:33 <ant__> ./meta/recipes-core/dropbear/dropbear.inc:DISTRO_TYPE ?= "${@base_contains("IMAGE_FEATURES", "debug-tweaks", "debug", "",d)}"
Aug 16 23:32:54 <ant__> is DISTRO_TYPE 'old-style' deprecated ?
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