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Jun 30 07:57:27 <rburton> JaMa: excellent, thanks.
Jun 30 15:51:53 <eren> does anyone have friendlyarm's mini210s board working with openembedded?
Jun 30 16:31:40 <Crofton|work> eren, check with florian in #oe. He has had some of their stuff in the past
Jun 30 16:32:27 <eren> Crofton|work: okkie, thank you
Jun 30 16:34:00 <eren> Crofton|work: he is not there, I guess I will ask on the list and IRC
Jun 30 16:34:14 <Crofton|work> that would be best
Jun 30 16:34:35 <eren> I am disappointed by the disorganization of ARM SOC community
Jun 30 16:34:55 <eren> friendarm gave prebuilt images in CD, it shows how to burn the images to flash and boot it
Jun 30 16:35:01 <eren> it doesn't have where to get linux patches
Jun 30 16:35:15 <eren> linux is updated frequently, and it has linux 2.6.x in their CDs
Jun 30 16:35:27 <eren> s/friendarm/friendlyarm/g
Jun 30 16:35:47 <eren> I am wondering why they do not support OE as Gumstix does
Jun 30 16:36:06 <Crofton|work> They are not friendly enough :)
Jun 30 16:37:38 <eren> yup :)
Jun 30 16:40:42 <nerdboy> i think rpi has the latest and "available" kernel of anything i have...
Jun 30 16:41:20 <nerdboy> *most easily obtainable
Jun 30 16:44:15 <nerdboy> but it does seem like most vendors are quick to take advantage of opensource but slow to understand they actually need to give back, document, etc
Jun 30 16:58:28 <eren> nerdboy: yes
Jun 30 16:58:52 <eren> nerdboy: they don't give the source code back and it leads to code duplication in every place
Jun 30 16:59:28 <eren> I cannot find a central repository or patchset for recent kernels that works on my device
Jun 30 16:59:54 <eren> I cannot imagine how people developer embedded linux products before OE, or busybox :)
Jun 30 17:00:01 <eren> s/developer/developed
Jun 30 17:00:38 <nerdboy> eren: most older devices i've bought were based on monte vista dev kit with a 2.4.17 kernel
Jun 30 17:00:58 <nerdboy> not all, but quite a few...
Jun 30 17:01:00 <eren> oh
Jun 30 17:01:05 <eren> 2.4.17 o.O
Jun 30 17:01:26 <nerdboy> i did say *older*
Jun 30 17:01:38 <eren> okay
Jun 30 17:01:49 <nerdboy> my original kurobox hg would be an example
Jun 30 17:02:00 <eren> still, mini210s is produced these times and it comes with 2.6.x
Jun 30 17:02:17 <eren> I don't know the current situation of the support
Jun 30 17:02:24 <eren> I'm beginning to explore what is available
Jun 30 17:02:37 <eren> it's sure that OE does not have support for it
Jun 30 17:02:47 <nerdboy> i'm pretty sure most vendors stopped using the old stuff a while ago
Jun 30 17:03:23 <nerdboy> ask kergoth about the old zaurus stuff...
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