**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 08 02:59:58 2013 Nov 08 07:32:10 good morning Nov 08 07:38:06 mood groaning. Nov 08 10:51:45 What is external-sourcery-toolchain in meta? Nov 08 10:51:46 hi all, how can I find a recipe location? acpid_1.0.10.bb for example? Nov 08 10:52:19 TuTizz: if you're just curious, i use find or git ls-files Nov 08 10:52:29 is this toolchain necessary for g++? Nov 08 10:52:58 Zaif: that's if you want to use a different toolchain, such as the one codesourcery will sell you. Nov 08 10:52:59 rburton, ok thanks you. Nov 08 10:53:17 Zaif: by default you don't need it, and bitbake will build its own compilers Nov 08 10:53:37 rburton ok. Got it. Nov 08 10:54:14 rburton: heh, git ls-files... never knew about that, thanks Nov 08 10:55:16 bluelightning: i've a wrapper git-find-file, which is just git ls-files | grep "$*" Nov 08 10:55:38 very useful for finding recipes Nov 08 10:58:26 bluelightning: While opening recipes in layers.openembedded.org, I am getting 502 Bad Gateway error. Nov 08 10:59:11 Zaif: right, I saw that earlier - I've informed the admins Nov 08 10:59:16 thanks for the report though Nov 08 10:59:52 bluelightning: No problem. Nov 08 11:55:14 Is this error because of outdated recipe? virtual:native:/home/zaif/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-gnome/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf_2.24.1.bb, do_install Nov 08 11:55:51 Zaif: what error? Nov 08 11:56:38 rburton: http://pastebin.com/UHN2jRAq Nov 08 11:59:20 When I replace this recipe with gdk-pixbuf 2.28.2, it gives me ParseError Could not inherit file classes/pixbuf cache.bbclass Nov 08 11:59:56 There is no "pixbuf cache.bbclass" in /meta/classes Nov 08 12:02:41 Zaif: looks like damned .la files hanging around and getting you. this is why poky uses separatebuilddirs.inc now. Nov 08 12:02:56 Zaif: -cclean gdk-pixbuf-native and try again Nov 08 12:06:52 rburton: is this correct command bitbake -cclean gdk-pixbuf-native ? Nov 08 12:07:15 yes Nov 08 12:13:25 rburton: Now the build is running smoothly. If you don't mind, can you please explain why this .la file was causing errors? or any doc to read about? Nov 08 12:14:30 .la files are used by libtool to know what libraries to link to. they don't get re-generated correctly because libtool is an arse, so you end up with paths to files that don't exist Nov 08 12:15:05 if you're using a recent release and a distro that isn't poky, enable separatebuilddirs to massively reduce this happening Nov 08 12:16:47 rburton: ok. got it. Thank you. found a related problem here https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2013-September/018131.html Nov 08 12:22:44 Any idea why this WARNING: QA Issue: gst-plugins-base: Files/directories were installed but not shipped? does it mean these lib's will not be included in my Image? http://pastebin.com/q6yWXz8z Nov 08 12:38:21 yes Nov 08 12:39:06 Zaif: is that our gst-plugins-base recipe or your own modified one? that works fine for me. Nov 08 12:40:06 rburton I did not modify it. It's from master repo Nov 08 12:40:28 just appended gst-plugins-base to my image Nov 08 12:41:01 * rburton tries Nov 08 12:53:15 Zaif: that package works for me Nov 08 12:56:41 http://pastebin.com/s3h48huG (ignore the ansi codes, my tools need to detect not-at-console) Nov 08 13:20:07 hi all i would like to write a new bb file for obexftp in poky,my bb file is http://pastebin.com/mA9UmpXi,i need obexftp and obexftpd files.is my bb right? Nov 08 14:19:21 Is gstreamer opengl (gst-plugins-gl) important recipe to include along with gstreamer? Nov 08 16:10:01 Hi All, have a basic question. I've got my own layer and am building on another image recipe. I built it fine and it works but I then added "emacs" of course to the IMAGE_FEATURES. I tried to bitbake -c clean image-recipe then bitbake image-recipe but it tells me it has nothing to do. Is there a way short of removing tmp directory of getting bitbake to rebuild an image? Nov 08 16:11:15 images are always rebuilt when their deps change Nov 08 16:11:19 'emac's isn't a valid image feature Nov 08 16:11:38 image features are either groups of packages (e.g. dev-pkgs) or particular features of the image (e.g. read-only-rootfs) Nov 08 16:12:03 individual packages go into IMAGE_INSTALL (or CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL in local.conf), not IMAGE_FEATURES Nov 08 16:12:16 oops thanks Nov 08 16:12:22 np Nov 08 16:12:44 generally you never need to -c clean an image, it'll automatically start from scratch each time, if and when it needs to run Nov 08 16:19:48 zeddii: as in one old msg, do_package task of the kernel takes extremely long Nov 08 16:20:24 no parallelism Nov 08 16:24:15 yah. we bashed around some ideas on it at elc-e. I'm poking at it to see what I can come up with. Nov 08 16:27:41 ant_work: patches on the list should help a bit Nov 08 16:29:05 I'm rebuilding frequently linux-yocto with lot of modules those days and I've noticed the packaging takes very long on my old quad . It's a single thread apparently Nov 08 16:29:51 I'll verify do_populate_sysroot Nov 08 16:30:32 ant_work: there is a do_package speedup there too ;-) Nov 08 16:30:50 oh..missed the bonus ;) Nov 08 16:31:11 ant_work: The lib/oe/path one Nov 08 16:31:22 * RP is hoping this speeds up builds generally Nov 08 16:31:33 * RP is waiting on benchmarks to see exactly how much Nov 08 16:31:57 I can extimate old build time looking at the file date Nov 08 16:32:04 and check with the patches Nov 08 16:35:07 ant_work: you could also look at buildstats/ Nov 08 16:35:59 do you want the results posted on that thread on the ML? Nov 08 16:36:38 ant_work: if you have some its interesting to share... Nov 08 16:36:39 is an old buildmachine, the improvement should be significative Nov 08 16:37:41 zeddii: btw, In the build graphs I've looked at, the kernel was actually blocking the rest of the build Nov 08 16:38:18 zeddii: we can build eglibc, the rest of userspace including X and sato in the time it takes to finish packaging the kernel :/ Nov 08 16:38:24 zeddii: or we could anyway... Nov 08 16:38:48 :( Nov 08 16:39:00 RP: iirc is always the last package before image do_rootfs on my builds of -base or -minimal Nov 08 16:39:16 I see the CPU load dropping... Nov 08 16:39:19 * zeddii suffers greatly during iterative development. Nov 08 16:40:28 zeddii: I was rather surprised/alarmed to see it. Hopefully these changes start to move us towards fixing that Nov 08 16:40:54 ant_work: that backs up what I've seen Nov 08 17:19:30 has anyone looked at nativesdk for Qt5 yet? Nov 08 17:19:59 is JaMa around? Nov 08 17:29:45 denix: I think a few people have, there does appear to be a blocking issue atm though Nov 08 17:32:09 RP -- we found an issue with the OE -> Smart/RPM package name translation.. if you put a dependency in your IMAGE_INSTALL (i.e. something that isn't a package name, but is provided by a package) it works in deb/opkg.. but doesn't in RPM.. Nov 08 17:32:20 I have a local fix for that behavior problem.. Nov 08 17:34:11 RP: thanks. I think I hit the same... Nov 08 17:35:49 fray: that does sound like a bug in the rpm translation code Nov 08 18:09:55 I am confused what "(integrated BT only)" means in the manual Nov 08 18:10:09 integrated as in integrated BT support in other recipes? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 09 02:59:58 2013