**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 11 02:59:59 2014 Mar 11 05:42:06 anyone around to help with a few questions Mar 11 07:48:58 Should I be able to build on OS X? Mar 11 07:52:02 tasslehoff: don't think so Mar 11 07:53:16 LetoThe2nd: I remembered somone having a dream of that working 3 years ago. Working from home on a Mac today, so I just thought I'd check :) Mar 11 07:54:21 tasslehoff: welll maybe just give it a short try. i know of another buildsystem that actually could be used that way, so its maybe not much beating that is needed. Mar 11 07:54:59 tasslehoff: you can run Linux on a Mac ;-) Mar 11 07:55:41 ndec: thats the other option Mar 11 07:56:52 ndec: yep. the latest osx broke my dual boot, and I haven't gotten around to reinstalling yet :) Mar 11 07:57:14 sounds like the 'project of the day' ! Mar 11 07:58:18 maybe it is Mar 11 07:58:21 nah, project of the day involved something with central heating control algorithms here. Mar 11 08:00:17 my project of the day is meant to be finding out which processor to base a future product on, now that omap is a no-go. Mar 11 08:00:46 ask seymour cray to suggest something ox-style! Mar 11 08:02:52 hehe. never heard of him or that before now Mar 11 08:05:31 tasslehoff: first/second line of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cray#SRC_Computers Mar 11 08:08:10 LetoThe2nd: yeah, I wikipediaed it after your comment Mar 11 08:23:14 good morning Mar 11 08:29:36 Our company is hosting a student UAV project; designing and constructing a custom UAV for purely educational purposes, a single vehicle without commercialisation or sale. The project has been running for every summer the past few years, and currently runs a Yocto compiled Linux distribution. However I was notified by a colleage of this notice: https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/export-compliance Mar 11 08:30:01 Is there anyone here who has advice on interpreting the export compliance notice? Or who has been in a similar situation? Mar 11 08:32:54 skfax: well if you are in US then there are certain export laws Mar 11 08:32:59 you need to be aware of Mar 11 08:33:14 especially for crypto and stuff Mar 11 08:33:25 khem: We are located in Norway, Europe Mar 11 08:34:36 then check what norways laws are Mar 11 08:34:44 w.r.t software export Mar 11 08:35:00 and if you export Mar 11 08:35:35 Ah, so the issue would be if we for example were in the US, built a UAV using Yocto, then exported it? Mar 11 09:05:38 Hi, please Im stuck resolving a boot issue, Im getting "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" Mar 11 09:06:30 I can't figure out where it come from, kernel missconfiguration or yocto layer ? Mar 11 09:44:46 morning all Mar 11 14:16:08 hi, shall I worry about this one when trying to install the kernel-image package? "/tmp/opkg-8k5jsU/opkg-intercept-sclyBA/depmod: line 1: depmod: not found" Mar 11 14:16:15 I am planning to do a reboot, either way. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 11 14:47:08 2014 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 11 14:48:16 2014 Mar 11 14:58:47 YPTM: Participant passcode: 42001078 Dial-in number: 1.972.995.7777 US Toll Free number: 1.877.561.6828 Mar 11 14:59:49 YPTM: Scott Rifenbark is on the call Mar 11 15:00:08 YPTM: Vali Cobelea is on the call Mar 11 15:00:08 YPTM: Matthew is on the call Mar 11 15:00:29 YPTM: Polk is on Mar 11 15:00:56 YPTM: IonutC is on Mar 11 15:00:56 YPTM: belen is on the call Mar 11 15:01:32 YPTM: Paul Eggleton is on the call Mar 11 15:01:32 YPTM: Nitin is on the call Mar 11 15:02:03 YPTM: joined Mar 11 15:02:59 YPTM: Saul Joined Mar 11 15:04:50 sjolley has joined YTPM Mar 11 15:05:04 YPTM: joined Mar 11 15:05:07 YPTM: Tom Z on the call Mar 11 15:05:12 * nitink has joined the call Mar 11 15:05:12 Alex is here Mar 11 15:05:12 YPTM: Matthew joined Mar 11 15:05:14 YPTM: Vali Cobelea is on the call Mar 11 15:05:19 YPTM: Paul Eggleton is on Mar 11 15:05:19 YPTM: Polk is here Mar 11 15:05:20 YPTM: Scott Rifenbark is on the call Mar 11 15:05:21 YPTM: belen is on the call Mar 11 15:05:28 YPTM: Saul here Mar 11 15:05:36 YPTM: Cristiana on the call Mar 11 15:06:09 YPTM: IonutC is on Mar 11 15:06:16 YPTM: open - 1.4.3 status Mar 11 15:42:50 hello is there a variable or something to make a module be auto loadable with systemd ? Mar 11 15:43:05 using modules-load.d Mar 11 15:54:56 hello, is editing http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta-skeleton/recipes-skeleton/useradd/useradd-example.bb the only way to add an user to yocto ? Mar 11 15:55:31 that's an example recipe. it shows you what t do in your own recipes Mar 11 15:55:34 editing it will do nothing Mar 11 15:57:19 kergoth: ok, so users can be added in usual linux way (useradd etc)? Mar 11 15:58:35 on the device, yes, its a linux distro like any other. if you want to add it at build time, there are variables to add global stuff from local.conf, and the useradd-example.bb shows how to do it from a recipe, e.g. for a user that's needed to run a service Mar 11 15:58:51 see the official yocto project documentation for details Mar 11 16:00:26 kergoth: ok, thanks and sorry for the silly question.. not finding the usual tools seemed a little bit odd to me too :) Mar 11 17:04:02 valic: u around ? Mar 11 17:04:54 RP: the new improvements for handling the children are quite nice, particualrly the bit for handling unexpected exit. i have a VM whose resources aren't always stable, and sometimes a child dies or communication times out, its much nicer to shut down cleanly when that happens than to traceback and get into a weird state. nicely done Mar 11 17:05:05 heh Mar 11 17:11:53 Hmm, not perfect though, can still hit Broken pipe when sending to a worker that's died Mar 11 17:20:03 kergoth: do you have a sample error ? Mar 11 17:22:01 I see *a lot* of "ERROR: Unknown process (13210) exited unexpectedly (0), shutting down..." errors when using latest master of poky/bitbake. bitbake starts up, outputs ~1200 of these, and then exits. Mar 11 17:22:31 can you please mail a copy/paste of the output to alexandru.damian@intel.com ? are you using toaster ? Mar 11 17:23:10 me? Mar 11 17:23:31 i don't use toaster at least Mar 11 17:23:36 yay, they saved the big fire my last week... Mar 11 17:23:42 *for Mar 11 17:24:40 zibri: i just hit a couple of those, but its admittedly on the aofrementioned unstable VM :) Mar 11 17:25:13 shouldn't be the case on my desktop :/ Mar 11 17:25:54 zibri: kergoth: please email me copy/paste of the errors, at least partially. I'm trying to debug the probloem Mar 11 17:26:02 ok, will do! thanks Mar 11 17:43:39 damn, there's another one Mar 11 17:43:40 ERROR: Worker process (3334) exited unexpectedly (9), shutting down... Mar 11 17:43:52 does seem a little less stable than it used to be, somehow Mar 11 19:59:22 hi all, brand new user of the yocto project Mar 11 19:59:59 i'm trying to get a java runtime built into an image and having issues Mar 11 20:07:14 i either get: exec: (snip)build/arago-tmp-eglibc/work/i686-linux/icedtea6-native/1.8.11-r5.3/icedtea6-1.8.11/bootstrap/jdk1.6.0/bin/cacao: not found Mar 11 20:07:42 or configure: error: cannot find jni_md.h, when its trying to compile cacao Mar 11 20:07:46 any ideas? Mar 11 20:12:42 ripperD: Are you using one of the java layers? Mar 11 20:15:31 yes, I added meta-java Mar 11 20:18:19 https://gist.github.com/kergoth/9494107 heh Mar 11 20:18:26 methinks this behavior isn't ideal Mar 11 20:19:36 ripperD: what version of meta data are you using, are you using Poky as a base distro or something else? Mar 11 20:22:02 sgw_: I used ti's arago for the initial layer setup, and had originally picked their arago-dylan-config. But that was missing dependencies, so I used the distroless config to use the latest master branches Mar 11 20:23:00 ripperD: there's also dora config, if you want something stable Mar 11 20:23:26 sgw_: as I understand it. This is all very new territory to me. Mar 11 20:23:55 ripperD: I have not built with the java layer recently, so not sure about that failure, but denix would be the right person to talk with about arago Mar 11 20:25:51 ripperD: depending on how you swapped things around, there might be some lingering paths, if you are distro-less then the arago-tmp-eglibc should just be tmp-eglibc maybe Mar 11 20:25:52 denix: hmm good call. I didn't even see that arago-dora-config exists. I was strictly going off http://arago-project.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_Up_Build_Environment Mar 11 20:25:55 sgw_: heh, I haven't used meta-java recently as well. looks like his arago setup is fine though Mar 11 20:26:57 denix: clearly we need to increase our text matrices (if we had more time/resources) ;-)! Mar 11 20:27:04 ripperD: right, that needs updating. distroless-master should also be fine, you just won't get distro policies. not sure if that can affect meta-java... Mar 11 20:27:25 sgw_: you mean test - I agree! Mar 11 20:28:59 ripperD: and which toolchain are you using? judging by your path, you enabled internal gcc from oe-core, which should be the preference for meta-java Mar 11 20:31:17 denix: I haven't changed toolchains, so whatever is set up by oe-layertool-setup.sh. Mar 11 20:31:29 only thing i've really done is added the meta-java and meta-oe layers Mar 11 20:32:06 denix: maybe you mean this I guess: gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.7-2013.03-20130313_linux Mar 11 20:40:35 ripperD: no, since you switched to distroless-master config, you are building the toolchain from oe-core, which is the preferred way for the community and the most tested one. Mar 11 20:41:51 ripperD: arago distro does use prebuilt linaro toolchain by default, but arago distro requires stable environment - i.e. dora or dylan before that Mar 11 20:42:18 ripperD: that's what arago-dora-config and arago-dylan-config are for Mar 11 20:43:52 ripperD: and distroless-master just configures all the layers for latest master - bitbake, oe-core, meta-oe, meta-ti, etc. there's no distro layer, so it uses oe-core defaults Mar 11 20:44:35 denix: ok, I think i'm getting it. So I'm probably better off trying this all with the dora config? Mar 11 20:47:37 ripperD: it's up to you. if you switch to arago-dora-config, you can also switch toolchain to gcc-internal one. make sure you use the correct branch from meta-java (master or dora) Mar 11 20:48:18 ripperD: also, make sure you follow instructions for meta-java - https://github.com/woglinde/meta-java/blob/master/README Mar 11 20:54:27 denix: Ok. I'll try that route and see what happens. Thanks! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 11 21:08:05 2014 Mar 11 21:28:07 i'm not sure i've ever regretted extending someone else's hack more than i do right now... Mar 12 02:31:02 kergoth: i made an rpiuser-account recipe based on the xuser-account recipe Mar 12 02:31:21 is there a better/standard way of adding a default user to an image? Mar 12 02:31:52 oh, and i appended the sudo recipe to set a scrambled root passwd Mar 12 02:32:10 and add the rpi user to the sudoers file Mar 12 02:34:40 https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/blob/master/recipes-support/user-creation/rpiuser-account_0.1.bb <= so i'd kinda like to know if this is considered a "hack" or what... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 12 02:59:58 2014