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Nov 20 03:10:40 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: why u-boot source code remove while compiling? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46703245/why-u-boot-source-code-remove-while-compiling>
Nov 20 05:10:59 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: Where is the linux sysroot placed? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47187893/where-is-the-linux-sysroot-placed>
Nov 20 06:41:12 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: Swig dependency error while building firmware with apparmor in openembedded <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46929536/swig-dependency-error-while-building-firmware-with-apparmor-in-openembedded>
Nov 20 09:07:18 <nayfe> Hi all, I'm having this issue "hostnamectl set-hostname XXX" Could not set property: Access denied // systemd-hostnamed[5140]: Failed to write static host name: Permission denied. Any idea? (hostname is correctly set)
Nov 20 09:12:56 <Tamis> nayfe: I guess that your recipe it is trying to set this at HOST machine. Which it shouldn't. That's hte access denied. But this is just a guess...
Nov 20 09:16:34 <nayfe> Tamis: sorry I dont get your message
Nov 20 09:30:06 <Tamis> nayfe: You are building a recipe right? I said that your recipe it might tries to execute the command (hostnamectl set-hostname) at the host machine. And thus you get a permission denied.
Nov 20 09:30:39 <Tamis> nayfe: If this is not the case. Then I cannot possibly know what is your problem.
Nov 20 09:31:41 <nayfe> With sysvinit, I overwritten hostname.sh to set machine hostname to something computed with macaddress. Now i'm migrating to systemd, so I'm trying to use this service (https://github.com/RedPitaya/RedPitaya/blob/master/OS/debian/overlay/etc/systemd/system/hostname-mac.service) to do same kind of thing, without success
Nov 20 09:54:37 <zzeroo> Are rustaceans here? Need help https://github.com/meta-rust/meta-rust/issues/173
Nov 20 09:56:29 <LetoThe2nd> just giving the eclipse stuff another try, and it goes bitching: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
Nov 20 09:57:04 <LetoThe2nd> any ideas on how do dig? plugin happily detected sdk and architecture, prfixes seem to be fine
Nov 20 10:16:53 <LetoThe2nd> nevermind, i b0rk3d my paths!
Nov 20 10:41:52 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: yocto pyro 2.3 depended package buil issue <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47389805/yocto-pyro-2-3-depended-package-buil-issue>
Nov 20 11:45:25 <Smit-Tay> I am experiencing a problem with building multiple images in one command.  When I do <bitbake image1 image2 image3> I get at least one package in image1.hddimg that shouldn't be there.  In fact if I build <bitbake image1> alone, it doesn't show up.  Where do I look to understand this issue ?
Nov 20 12:22:14 <kanavin> Smit-Tay: start with log.do_rootfs for both cases, and see how they differ
Nov 20 12:23:33 <kanavin> it's probable the two other images build something that the first image pulls in if it's available, and doesn't if it's absent
Nov 20 12:34:08 <Smit-Tay> log.do_rootfs ??    Sorry, where do I find this, in OE-Core, or in the build directory somewhere ?
Nov 20 12:36:17 <Smit-Tay> Why would the build of an image add something that it doesn't need ?   Doesn't it know what is required, and what isn't, or does it just sweep up anything it finds in intermediate directories ? (That's damned sloppy)
Nov 20 12:36:54 <JoiF> I've set up a M$-TFS build-agent on a Linux build-server. And now I'm configuring a Build Definition for automating our Yocto builds (our layers are in Git on TFS).
Nov 20 12:37:13 <JoiF> I feel like a need a shower.   ..and perhaps cry a little...
Nov 20 12:37:35 <JoiF> Or both.
Nov 20 12:38:06 <kanavin> Smit-Tay: tmp/work/.../<image>/temp/log.do_rootgs
Nov 20 12:38:43 <kanavin> Smit-Tay: packages may recommend other packages to be installed I think, rather than require them :)
Nov 20 12:39:39 <LetoThe2nd> kanavin: actually more often than not, it is some "clever" custom script in the end that does such "interesting" things
Nov 20 12:39:50 <LetoThe2nd> thats at least my impression
Nov 20 12:39:57 <Smit-Tay> Yeah, that's what I'm worried about
Nov 20 12:42:10 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: yocto pyro 2.3 depended package build issue <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47389805/yocto-pyro-2-3-depended-package-build-issue> || Yocto / Qt 5.6 - QSqlDatabase: QSQLITE driver not loaded <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43413700/yocto-qt-5-6-qsqldatabase-qsqlite-driver-not-loaded>
Nov 20 12:43:48 <Smit-Tay> Here's one of the offending packages mentioned in log.do_rootfs.    <Breaking circular dependency on python-io for libssl1.0.0>
Nov 20 12:48:09 <kanavin> why would openssl library need a python library?
Nov 20 12:49:53 <kanavin> as far as oe-core master is concerned, openssl 1.0 does not require or even mention python
Nov 20 12:50:01 <kanavin> probably some third party layer madness?
Nov 20 12:50:46 <T_UNIX> which task should be appended to add capabilities using libcap?
Nov 20 12:50:54 <T_UNIX> `pkg_postinst_${PN}` ?
Nov 20 13:00:20 <gunnarx> sourceforge - what the hell...
Nov 20 13:02:11 <gunnarx> http://downloads.sourceforge.net is redirecting to https://sourceforge.net/publish/ - could someone else confirm?
Nov 20 13:08:15 <kanavin> gunnarx: yes, why is that a problem?
Nov 20 13:08:46 <kanavin> (sourceforge on the whole is annoying, and we should get rid of any downloads from it at least in oe-core though)
Nov 20 13:09:00 <gunnarx> from what I can tell, poky, meta-oe and others have downloads.sourceforge.net as the default URL for SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR, hence no tarball downloads work unless you have other mirrors.
Nov 20 13:10:17 <gunnarx> but maybe I'm missing something?   I anyway tried to fetch a missing package from the only URL I knew which was downloads.sourceforge -- doesn't work
Nov 20 13:12:12 <kanavin> gunnarx: I just tried to fetch rng-tools, and it's working fine
Nov 20 13:12:22 <gunnarx> odd
Nov 20 13:12:27 <gunnarx> URL?
Nov 20 13:13:35 <kanavin> DEBUG: Fetching http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gkernel/rng-tools-5.tar.gz using command '/usr/bin/env wget -t 2 -T 30 -nv --passive-ftp --no-check-certificate -P /media/disk2/downloads-poky 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gkernel/rng-tools-5.tar.gz''
Nov 20 13:13:35 <kanavin> DEBUG: Fetcher accessed the network with the command /usr/bin/env wget -t 2 -T 30 -nv --passive-ftp --no-check-certificate -P /media/disk2/downloads-poky 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gkernel/rng-tools-5.tar.gz'
Nov 20 13:13:57 <kanavin> just picked a random recipe in oe-core
Nov 20 13:14:36 <kanavin> it does a single redirect to a mirror, and then downloads fine
Nov 20 13:15:08 <gunnarx> Let me try again
Nov 20 13:15:43 <gunnarx> You're right, it works now.
Nov 20 13:16:49 <ramcq> Debian runs a redirector specifically to hand out stable sf download URLs
Nov 20 13:17:01 <ramcq> https://wiki.debian.org/debian/watch#SourceForge
Nov 20 13:17:09 <nayfe> Anyone using myhostname from systemd ? i addend  PACKAGECONFIG_append = " myhostname" , my nsswitch.conf contains myhostname module, but when i ping $(hostname) it does not resolve it
Nov 20 13:17:13 <gunnarx> ramcq, that's useful, and not surprising
Nov 20 13:17:35 <gunnarx> Not too long ago *all* the mirrors seemed to be taken down at the same time
Nov 20 13:18:07 <ramcq> sourceforge is kwalitee
Nov 20 13:19:04 <gunnarx> thanks anyway kanavin - back to what I was working on (improving local mirrors, coincidentally ;)
Nov 20 13:19:37 <kanavin> gunnarx: cheers
Nov 20 13:19:57 <gunnarx> Maybe yocto/oe should consider the Debian URL...
Nov 20 13:51:35 <kanavin> gunnarx: we already do in many cases
Nov 20 13:58:57 <Son_Goku> ramcq: the redirector is unnecessary
Nov 20 13:59:05 <Son_Goku> sf.net already provides one in their system
Nov 20 14:00:00 <Son_Goku> ramcq: c.f.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL#Sourceforge.net
Nov 20 14:01:22 <Son_Goku> ah, I see you tried that and it didn't work periodically...
Nov 20 14:06:55 <nayfe> argh, PACKAGES_DYNAMIC stuff ... need to add libnss-myhostname splitted package ...
Nov 20 14:12:25 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: how build the squidguard recipe in open embedded core <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47393618/how-build-the-squidguard-recipe-in-open-embedded-core>
Nov 20 14:23:47 <ranran> When install debian I have apt-get/yum from internet , but in yocto, this capabilities do not function (only from server). Any idea why ?
Nov 20 14:25:05 <kanavin> ranran: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-runtime-package-management
Nov 20 14:28:14 <rburton> ranran: you can't install packages from debian on a  yocto system that is using dpkg
Nov 20 14:34:54 <ranran> rburton, I mean that even if I configure yocto with apt-get or yum, I don't have internet server for the runtime packages (imx6) , only if I create my own server
Nov 20 14:35:04 <rburton> of course
Nov 20 14:35:21 <rburton> as we discussed last week, bitbake doesn't start a web server
Nov 20 14:35:22 <ranran> but in debian I do have internet package manager server
Nov 20 14:35:38 <rburton> erm, no
Nov 20 14:35:53 <rburton> if you build packages on debian you don't magically get a web service sharing them
Nov 20 14:36:06 <rburton> there *is* a public feed of packages as that's basically what the point of debian is
Nov 20 14:36:17 <rburton> if you want a server sharing the packages then start one
Nov 20 14:36:27 <rburton> installing and configurating say lighttpd takes about a minute
Nov 20 14:37:11 <ranran> yes, I mean, if I install debian on imx6 I have public feed. But in yocto image, there is non.
Nov 20 14:38:02 <kanavin> ranran: yocto is not a distribution, but a toolkit to create one. you create your own distribution when you build an image, and so you are responsible for making a package feed as well.
Nov 20 14:38:32 <ranran> OK, I understand. I hoped I missed something.... Thanks
Nov 20 14:38:32 <kanavin> ranran: you simply can't have 'public feed' in yocto, as everyone has different settings which produce different packages
Nov 20 14:38:48 <ranran> OK, I got it,,,
Nov 20 14:39:02 <ranran> kanavin, Thanks
Nov 20 14:40:42 <nayfe> ranran: btw it is not that difficult to setup a public server :)
Nov 20 14:46:36 <nollan> Im new to yocto, and am looking for the yocto-bsp script, but cant find it? Do I need a meta-intel bsp for that script? (am building for freescale, so I have meta-freescale atm)
Nov 20 14:47:51 <nollan> (i.e is it just avail for meta-intel?)
Nov 20 14:51:53 <nayfe> nollan> indeed, did you follow https://github.com/Freescale/fsl-community-bsp-platform/tree/rocko ?
Nov 20 14:53:20 <nollan> nayfe: thanks for that link. Still a bit overwhelmed over the amount of info to process for a successful build.
Nov 20 14:54:11 <nayfe> nollan: yep yocto has nice learning curve :)
Nov 20 14:54:45 <nollan> nayfe: so that link you provided is the way to go for freescale?
Nov 20 14:55:11 <nollan> I need another layer as well for my changes (call it app-layer)
Nov 20 14:55:49 <nollan> I guess Im asking how to make another layer on top of freescale bsp
Nov 20 14:55:56 <nollan> according to practice
Nov 20 14:56:04 <nayfe> nollan: freescale has two paths, officiel releases and community releases, but both are linked as freescale includes community contributions into there releases from time to time
Nov 20 14:56:44 <nollan> nayfe: ok, i see, so the meta-freescale is the official, but prolly has limited hw support?
Nov 20 14:57:40 <nayfe> nollan> nop it's community :)
Nov 20 14:57:58 <nollan> oh
Nov 20 14:58:03 <nayfe> nollan: do you know about google repo tool for git ?
Nov 20 14:58:12 <nollan> sure
Nov 20 14:58:29 <nayfe> nollan: so here you have minimal layers for freescale https://github.com/Freescale/fsl-community-bsp-platform/blob/rocko/default.xml
Nov 20 14:58:43 <nayfe> you have to adapt it to add your custom layers
Nov 20 14:59:00 <nollan> Ok, so no yocto-bsp then :/
Nov 20 14:59:30 <nollan> nayfe: thanks tho. now I know where to look at least :)
Nov 20 15:00:01 <nayfe> np :)
Nov 20 15:18:59 <lukeer> Hi there! I'm trying to get a serial keyboard to work on an embedded PC running yocto. For that, I believe that I need the program "inputattach" from the package "linuxconsole". Am I right, that I need a recipie that contains linuxconsole? Which one?
Nov 20 15:19:11 <lukeer> Do I need a layer that contains the recipie? Which one?
Nov 20 15:26:18 <kergoth> lukeer: just search the layer index
Nov 20 15:26:22 <kergoth> layers.openembedded.org
Nov 20 15:38:07 <nayfe> <lukeer> ain't a native stuff to have serial keyboard support ? with MACHINE_FEATURES keyboard and serial ?
Nov 20 15:39:10 <lukeer> The search seems to work on layer names and layer descriptions. I have no idea how to search for a layer that contains a given program or package.
Nov 20 15:43:40 <lukeer> But, in the branch "OE-Classic", there is a recipe "linux-input". Its recipe file "linux-input_cvs.bb" contains a line "install evtest inputattach jstest jscal fftest ${D}${sbindir}"
Nov 20 15:44:12 <kanavin> lukeer: that is years out of date
Nov 20 15:44:20 <LetoThe2nd> lukeer: OE-classic is so absolutely outdated that you should never look at it unless you *EXACTLY* know what it means
Nov 20 15:44:29 <lukeer> Is there a command "install" in current poky? Or has it passed way with OE-Classic?
Nov 20 15:45:10 <LetoThe2nd> a command "install"?
Nov 20 15:45:12 <lukeer> passed away, I meant.
Nov 20 15:45:15 <LetoThe2nd> what would that do?
Nov 20 15:45:35 <lukeer> Install the given programs, I hope.
Nov 20 15:45:37 <nayfe> lukeer install is existing in poky
Nov 20 15:46:01 <LetoThe2nd> huh?
Nov 20 15:46:36 <nayfe> install -d -m ... etc
Nov 20 15:46:58 <LetoThe2nd> lukeer: are we talking about runtime package management, or are we talking about the "install"-helper tool that programs use to set owners and rights?
Nov 20 15:47:02 <lukeer> So, I could "install inputattach a-path-I-guess" like the ancient oe-classic script did?
Nov 20 15:47:09 <nayfe> lukeer: i think solution here could be based on uinput and some udev rules
Nov 20 15:47:50 <lukeer> I have never heard of both u* things.
Nov 20 15:47:53 <kanavin> lukeer: if all fails, just write your own recipe :)
Nov 20 15:48:02 <kanavin> it is not hard, and a useful experience
Nov 20 15:48:33 <nayfe> lukeer: you can copy/paste http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux-input folder into custom layer and include it in your image if you want to use inputattach
Nov 20 15:48:56 <lukeer> I'm trying to use a linux driver "sunkbd". inputattach knows that keyboard. It has a command-line switch for it.
Nov 20 15:50:23 <kanavin> nayfe: that recipe is over 11 years old. I would not give such advice to a newbie :)
Nov 20 15:53:00 <lukeer> Thank you. What advice would you give a newbie that needs the keyboardattach program?
Nov 20 15:53:18 <lukeer> nayfe
Nov 20 15:53:29 <nayfe> kanavin indeed
Nov 20 15:53:49 <lukeer> nayfe: Is there a documentation for building a custom recipe?
Nov 20 15:54:03 <lukeer> kanavin: Sorry.
Nov 20 15:54:13 <kanavin> lukeer: I think your best course of action is to take the latest tarball from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxconsole/files/ and write a recipe for it
Nov 20 15:54:24 <kanavin> lukeer: yes; the yocto manual
Nov 20 15:54:30 <nayfe> lukeer: you can read www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html
Nov 20 15:55:01 <nayfe> lukeer: depending on your  machine there are some good e-books :)
Nov 20 15:55:37 <nayfe> lukeer: you can check youtube for ELC ELCE courses too
Nov 20 15:55:47 <nayfe> very instructive
Nov 20 15:56:26 <zero_note> hi guys, is this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36318491/how-to-build-qt-with-qtwebengine-support-using-meta-toolchain-qt5 still valid for yocto-morty ?
Nov 20 15:57:36 <lukeer> I have something to read. Thank you guys for now.
Nov 20 15:58:03 <kanavin> zero_note: you need to try and see, no?
Nov 20 16:01:24 <nayfe> When dnsmasq and systemd-resolved are installed, dnsmasq fails to start cause it looks at /etc/resolv.conf which is not created yet by systemd-resolved. I'm new to systemd, so don't know if it is a valid conf., but if it is valid, maybe we need to add After=systemd-resolved.service in dnsmasq.service ?
Nov 20 16:01:49 <kanavin> nayfe: I vaguely remember we had a patch and a bug for something like this
Nov 20 16:02:08 <kanavin> nayfe: if you could do a little search on oe-core archives?
Nov 20 16:02:43 <zero_note> kanavin: of course :) , but prior to rebuild an entire sdk, which, you know is a task that need lot of time especially on a mid-power machine like mine, it could be useful to know if that link is still valid OR other there are updated infos about
Nov 20 16:03:18 <kanavin> nayfe: but if dnsmasq.service is coming from upstream, and doesn't have this, then maybe you should raise it with upstream first?
Nov 20 16:03:32 <kanavin> nayfe: surely it's not just yocto's problem
Nov 20 16:03:48 <kanavin> zero_note: sorry, I forget sometimes that not everyone has 44 cores :)
Nov 20 16:04:24 <kanavin> zero_note: your chances are probably better if you shoot the question where meta-qt5 people hang out
Nov 20 16:04:59 <zero_note> kanavin: np! you lucky with your 44 cores! :)
Nov 20 16:05:10 <kanavin> zero_note: guess who is my employer ;)
Nov 20 16:05:17 <nayfe> kanavin: that one ? http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2016-April/107049.html
Nov 20 16:05:35 <LetoThe2nd> kanavin: its not the cores, its the ram. (/me eyes the build stuck on perl, another time again)
Nov 20 16:06:00 <kanavin> LetoThe2nd: that's why I have 64 gigs of it
Nov 20 16:06:50 <kanavin> if for some twisted reason, llvm and qt5 start building at the same time, then it's the only way to avoid crawling to complete stop
Nov 20 16:06:53 <zero_note> kanavin: lol, my 8 cores and 16gb are nothing in compare :D
Nov 20 16:07:12 <kanavin> (llvm, qt5, or webkit)
Nov 20 16:07:17 <LetoThe2nd> kanavin: /me mentally nails it with 128G EXX :-)
Nov 20 16:07:55 <kanavin> zero_note: fortunately lesser cores == less ram used
Nov 20 16:08:24 <kanavin> zero_note: so don't increase the cores before you add ram, or you'll run out of it in masisvely parallel c++ builds
Nov 20 16:09:23 <kanavin> nayfe: yes, but I think there was something more recent on the same subject... memory is fuzzy
Nov 20 16:09:35 <kanavin> can't keep an entire archive of mail in my head
Nov 20 16:10:34 <kanavin> LetoThe2nd: I've yet to exhaust 64 gigs though, how can you do it?
Nov 20 16:10:57 <zero_note> kanavin: yeah I know...we have a more powerful machine with a 24cores intel xeon and 32gb, but I can't (to be honest I don't want to) use it for "debugging" purposes
Nov 20 16:10:58 <kanavin> 32 gigs are easily saturated
Nov 20 16:11:17 <LetoThe2nd> kanavin: two builds with lots of caching, something like that.
Nov 20 16:11:37 <LetoThe2nd> kanavin: but actually, i just don't care. it was just a classic trolling "more is more" statement
Nov 20 16:11:38 <kanavin> zero_note: when working with yocto, any developer should have a machine like that - doing massive rebuilds is simply a fact of life
Nov 20 16:12:16 <kanavin> LetoThe2nd: I do, like I said 32 gigs are exhausted by webkit, and if llvm is there as well then mercy me
Nov 20 16:14:39 <zero_note> kanavin: and you're right! fun fact: one of our customers in the first days of the project has provide me a 2core+2thread 8gb laptop for the yocto builds saying "that's all you'll have to use"
Nov 20 16:15:23 <zero_note> kanavin: provided*
Nov 20 16:16:03 <kanavin> zero_note: then you could tell the customer right then: 'your project will never ship'
Nov 20 16:16:47 * LetoThe2nd advises to pick customers wisely
Nov 20 16:17:31 <zero_note> kanavin: lol I wish I could :D
Nov 20 16:19:34 <majuk> zero_note: Get them to spring for an AWS EC2 instance.
Nov 20 16:20:50 <majuk> Get all the horsepower you want, ezpz
Nov 20 16:25:40 <zero_note> majuk: actually their IT department is a complete disaster...just to say that they're stuck with a really old virtualization system called "oracle virtual machine", unmantained and full of bugs
Nov 20 16:33:22 <majuk> kay
Nov 20 17:57:54 <zarzar1> is there a command i can run on the yocto image  like "dpkg-query -l" that will tell me what is installed in the yocto linux image?
Nov 20 18:57:13 <rburton> zarzar1: inside the image?  dpkg or rpm or opkg, depending on what package manager you picked (assuming you have package-management in IMAGE_FEATURES, otherwise the tools are removed)
Nov 20 18:57:51 <zarzar1> ok i guess there is no package management
Nov 20 18:58:11 <nayfe> cat deploy/images/xxx/<image>.manifest ?
Nov 20 19:40:36 <zarzar1> nayfe: looks like there is no manifest file
Nov 20 19:40:46 <zarzar1> but thanks for the suggestio
Nov 20 19:40:48 <zarzar1> n
Nov 20 19:41:38 <nayfe> <zarzar1> btw i read after that you were looking for command in running image, and not bitbake environment
Nov 20 19:41:52 <zarzar1> ok np
Nov 20 22:13:51 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: mtd-utils error during yocto build <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47401669/mtd-utils-error-during-yocto-build>
Nov 20 23:34:46 * paulg wonders at what point the yocti bot got a stackoverflow plugin
Nov 20 23:44:39 <armpit2> blame Crofton
Nov 21 02:44:32 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: glib install for arm , and double path issue <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47404233/glib-install-for-arm-and-double-path-issue>
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