**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 03:00:01 2018 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 08:39:34 2018 Dec 01 10:03:19 I trying to build a fido based project on "Debian stretch". The default gcc (6.x) on debian stretch is causing build failures for -native recipes. Is there a way to force bitbake to use another installed compiler. I do have gcc 4.9.x also. Dec 01 10:40:54 New news from stackoverflow: Bitbake Recipe for a python3 repository that provides a CLI as a binary Dec 01 11:42:36 khem, about patches: looks like some of our patches + yocto patches from standart/base are making kernel unstable. So I need not to apply them, but I don't see how can I switch them off Dec 01 11:44:23 How to easily build linux kernel without patches from kernel-meta ? I'm setting LINUX_KERNEL_TYPE = "tiny", but it doesn't help. The KTYPE is tiny, but all patches are applyed anyway Dec 01 13:31:07 hello! Dec 01 13:38:14 should does MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS cause packages to be installed? I had to add them to IMAGE_INSTALL_append_ Dec 01 14:01:57 ak77__: I'd have thought it would but it depends whether the image in question uses that variable Dec 01 14:15:23 RP: probably due to my image being built from core-image-minimal, altough I can't find where it exactly happens (or doesn't :)) Dec 01 14:15:56 but, if MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMENDS is ignored.... and there is no MACHINE_RDEPENDS... how to include those Dec 01 14:17:06 MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS? Dec 01 14:20:46 (essential - extra,... isn't this is getting ridiculous?) Dec 01 14:27:21 ak77__: yes, I think minimal skips rrecommends Dec 01 14:31:29 ak77__: I think it all comes from core-image.bbclass being used by non-minimal images and it includes packagegroup-base which pulls in packagegroup-machine-base Dec 01 15:05:13 ok, I get it that _EXTRA_ stuff isn't needed for booting. but how to include them in image? Dec 01 15:07:29 one off-topic: is there a way for devshell to use existing terminal? problem I have is altough I run session over ssh -X, terminal is not shown Dec 01 15:27:07 ak77__: we can't reuse the existing terminal as which task would get to use it? Dec 01 15:27:22 ak77__: if you're not using the standard machinery, correct thing to do is add to IMAGE_INSTALL Dec 01 16:12:47 RP: Hi, what's " base: Dummy rebuild commit" ? just forcing everything to be rebuilt for test or do you plan to merge this one as well? Dec 01 16:44:26 JaMa: not planned for merging, just to stress the autobuilder in the hopes of getting a particular selftest failure with debug Dec 01 19:17:26 RP: devshell task? Dec 01 19:17:40 Anybody around? I need a bit of help with a kernel patch. Is it possible to do this: https://github.com/seemoo-lab/nexmon on my build machine, for deployment in an image that will run on a pi/ Dec 01 19:17:47 RP: what is and what to use in standard machinery? Dec 01 20:41:50 RP: I shouldnt be rebasing on top of master-next blindly :), rebuilding whole meta-openembedded is a huge ask Dec 01 20:47:52 Question for anyone that can answer: Is there any information about if other companys / groups are using Yocto to build / base for a general purpose Linux distro similar to RHEL or Debian? Dec 01 20:50:34 Define general purpose Linux? Are you looking for something you can install on your desktop/ Dec 01 20:51:37 More akin to server's. Dec 01 20:52:05 so basically RHEL or CentOS. Dec 01 20:57:21 What benefit would you expect from that? Dec 01 21:05:22 From using yocto? Just a lot easier (too me) to tweak stuff and then just get a bunch of srpms then build off of that. Dec 01 21:06:15 i've tried looking into Koji and OBS but there's not a lot of documentation around it and seems a bit much. Dec 01 21:08:03 This is more of hobbyist / one-off type project that I had in mind so that's why im asking around, most people would just be just use plain debian or centos but i want to build a server os from the ground up. Dec 01 23:57:44 khem: sorry, I'm beating up selftest in the hope of better debugging Dec 01 23:57:59 khem: I'm including musl/nfs-utils :) Dec 02 00:19:58 junland: Yocto Project is used by many of the embedded software vendors (Wind River, Mentor, Montavista, ENEA and so on) so its used heavily commercially as well as by hobbyists Dec 02 00:20:31 junland: it allows ease of customisation but has a heavy learning curve so there are tradeoffs Dec 02 00:50:06 RP: Yea, I've been playing around with yocto for a couple of years. Just was wondering if yocto was being use to build images more server hardware rather than little devices. Dec 02 00:54:40 junland, we've seen people doing that Dec 02 01:04:49 Ah okay. Looking thru the OE Layers site there is like 4 openstack layers. Which I think is pretty interesting for a project focused on embedded. Dec 02 01:10:09 flexibility being such a high priority does mean it gets used in a wide variety of areas. embedded was just the original focus **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 02 03:00:01 2018