**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 29 02:59:57 2020 May 29 05:42:44 khem: thanks! May 29 06:36:04 paulbarker I wish it was so simple, of course I have automake installed since my sumo build runs successfuly, The automake err message seems to be a false positive due to some other incompatibilitty after the update May 29 07:14:28 Ulfang___: Maybe `HOSTTOOLS` and `HOSTTOOLS_NONFATAL` were introduced in sumo. Look at the diff for the poky distro config and local.conf.sample between thud and sumo, see if there's any new variables you need to set in your local.conf or distro conf file May 29 09:34:55 paulbarker: do you happen to have watched yesterdays session? happy with the motivation / presentation of kas? May 29 09:36:32 Letothe2nd: I caught a bit of it but had to work through a couple of other project issues May 29 09:36:59 paulbarker: np. just thought i'd ask because you mentioned your interest in kas. May 29 11:22:11 just realized that we are way beyond 20k views on the livecoding videos by now :) May 29 11:31:12 otavio_: are there any plans to bump firefox to 7x.y in meta-browser ? May 29 11:31:26 seems the WL support in 75+ is much better May 29 11:38:35 Marex: I've sent small upgrade to newer ESR release, but I'm not really interested in firefox, so no plans for 7x from me May 29 12:10:57 JaMa: the ESR is kinda useless by now :) May 29 12:11:20 btw is there a way to manage firmware versions in /lib/firmware/ with update alternatives or is there something better ? May 29 12:11:36 e.g. if I need different FPGA bitstreams May 29 12:12:37 Marex: I'm sure patches are welcome to upgrade it :) May 29 12:14:09 JaMa: I spent like a day battling rust cargo (ew) last time, got me past configure and then I was too tired to continue May 29 12:14:35 sounds fun. May 29 12:17:04 much May 29 12:17:16 I was curious about the ff webgl on WL, which looked interesting May 29 12:17:32 maybe I will try that on debian experimental instead, must be faster May 29 12:48:58 Marex: I've spent couple days this week battling rust/firefox, so saying that ESR is kinda useless didn't really motivate me to spend more :P May 29 13:14:50 JaMa: fear not, the next ESR is just around the corner ;-) May 29 13:15:12 JaMa: then it would be un-useless-ed again May 29 13:50:42 Hi, I have a very noob question, I hope it is OK to ask it here. Do I understand correct that Yacto a substitute of embedded-Debian (or similar distributions) on embedded Linux devices? May 29 13:57:32 Angs: I wouldn't use the word "substitute" but it does fulfill a similar purpose. Yocto allows you to build up and customize from a small base image including only what you need. With Debian or another such distro you'd have to start with a large image and cut out the bits you don't want May 29 14:03:13 paulbarker, I have some 3rd party software that runs fine on debian or raspian. The reason I am trying to use "substitute" if I can run the same programs (assuming that I use correct modules on yacto) without having any platform dependencies while compiling 3rd party projects May 29 14:04:04 Angs: That sounds like a good test to do May 29 14:04:18 P.S. s/yacto/yocto/ May 29 14:05:15 oh I am sorry May 29 14:05:46 Marex: 68.9.0ESR release candidate was released today as it was, so I've added it to PR, but still no plan to work on the next ESR from me May 29 14:07:47 do I understand correct that Yocto is same as a Linux distribution where it runs on Linux Kernel so that I can enjoy the being free from the hardware dependencies (or less dep.) while working on the OS? Or Should I consider Yocto as more like a CPU/MCU programming platform? May 29 14:08:30 Angs: Yocto essentially allows you to build a custom Linux distro May 29 14:10:58 thank you, I will give a test May 29 14:14:31 JaMa: that's totally fine :) May 29 14:17:22 Marex: and now it disappeared from the FTP, either I have illusions or it wasn't totally fine :) May 29 16:19:33 Is there a way to always trigger a setscene for a task? I have a funky setup during an integration phase. I have external (to yocto) steps that require output from yocto. May 29 16:29:48 I want to always run the shared_workdir task but hopefully skip compiling. May 29 16:37:59 Ideally I would just pull the output from the last shared_workdir from sstate. May 29 16:40:30 Hi all, May 29 16:41:41 repo-hooks is not at all executing from manifest.xml while doing repo sync, any idea/pointers please? May 29 16:56:52 halstead: I am trying to start a a-full build, but it won't start https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/83 May 29 16:57:18 is there some kind of problem, or maybe a daily limit? May 29 16:57:18 kanavin_home, I'm doing maintenance right now so all the builders are offline. May 29 16:57:28 ah May 29 16:57:44 it's not visible that they are May 29 16:57:48 kanavin_home, Your build will start once workers come back online https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/pendingbuildrequests May 29 16:58:24 halstead: thanks - is it possible to see somewhere that maintenance is ongoing? May 29 16:58:35 kanavin_home, If you visit https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/workers you can see all the workers are in "stopped" state. May 29 16:59:12 kanavin_home, It's scheduled this time every Friday. May 29 16:59:21 right, I'm new to AB :) May 29 16:59:22 There isn't a notice are anything it's routine. May 29 16:59:41 kanavin_home, Would you like me to ping you once your build is running? May 29 17:00:04 halstead: thanks, I'll just check later May 29 18:30:03 Trying to figure out how to make my own setscene task. I want store the output into sstate so I can grab it w/o doing a compile.. May 29 18:32:17 I want the staging_kernel_builddir to be saved in sstate so I can grab it w/o having to recompile May 29 18:32:47 So far any dep on that task causes a rebuild of the kernel May 29 20:38:37 I do have my own setscene task working now. Seems like depending on B directory causes things to recompile. Creating my own task that depends on D seems to work. May 29 20:39:17 So the do_install task copies things I need to D. Then my own task saves that to a shared area. May 29 20:39:28 Any better ideas? May 29 20:46:22 Hi! I have a yocto tree which has my image using systemd, enabled in local.conf.. May 29 20:46:43 is it possible to build an initramfs in the same tree which does not use systemd? May 30 00:36:17 Hello. I understand that ROOT_HOME ?= "/root" is used to change the home folder for root user. If I keep it in distro recipe (bb file) then it does not work. But when I keep it in layer.conf then it works. I want to create prod and dev version of distro in which only dev version has root user. How do I keep this setting only for dev distro and not May 30 00:36:18 for prod distro (without creating separate layers for each and keeping recipes for both in same layer) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 30 02:59:59 2020